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Bathhouse Barry and the Mail-Ins ... What could go wrong??

I really don't know where to put these anymore, but this guy is so ******* refreshing and just destroys these turds (Indy, no gay jokes):

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr">SAVAGE <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RichardGrenell</a> &#55357;&#56613; <a href="https://t.co/8fb0A1nTi9">pic.twitter.com/8fb0A1nTi9</a></p>— Benny (@bennyjohnson) <a href="https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1301961308628307968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
I really don't know where to put these anymore, but this guy is so ******* refreshing and just destroys these turds (Indy, no gay jokes):

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr">SAVAGE <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RichardGrenell</a> �� <a href="https://t.co/8fb0A1nTi9">pic.twitter.com/8fb0A1nTi9</a></p>— Benny (@bennyjohnson) <a href="https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1301961308628307968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

"A crisis in journalism." That's at least 21 years old, too.
 
There are going to be a dozen different 'scandals' involving Trump from 'anonymous' sources in the coming weeks/months. It's all they have..
I heard that Mr Trump's great aunt from his mother's side has a book coming out ripping Trump's table manners. She claims he used his salad fork for the entire 3 courses.
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"A crisis in journalism." That's at least 21 years old, too.

No ****, right? But the way he articulated it and just destroyed them though was just beautiful to behold. I actually have it casted to my TV screen and it's going to be running on a loop. :lol:
 
I heard that Mr Trump's great aunt from his mother's side has a book coming out ripping Trump's table manners. She claims he used his salad fork for the entire 3 courses.
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He takes two scoops of ice cream and eats his steak well done!

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LOL@Tibtard believing unsourced garbage from the Atlantic.

Trump is pro Military unlike the scum in the Democrat party.

Kayleigh McEnany just thoroughly debunked that entire bullshit article.
 
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After six sources who were actually there have refuted the claim, after Bolton's book explains why the President did not travel to the site, after every single person willing to identify himself says the claim is bullshit, I am positive - POSITIVE - that Tibs will apologize for posting a noxious lie.

Right after he apologizes for calling Rittenhouse a "white supremacist" without a single ******* piece of evidence.

Just.
You.
Wait.

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After six sources who were actually there have refuted the claim, after Bolton's book explains why the President did not travel to the site, after every single person willing to identify himself says the claim is bullshit, I am positive - POSITIVE - that Tibs will apologize for posting a noxious lie.

Since both AP and FoxNews - gasp - have both confirmed the Atlantic report, it is you and the rest of the Trump base who need to apologize for being so ******* naive. And even more so, for supporting a traitor in the WH who sides with Putin and insults and disparages our military veterans. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. But you're not, you never are. You are well beyond that stage by now. You will stick it out until the very end. Your choice. A bad choice, but your choice, regardless.


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fox News senior correspondent now out with reporting that explicitly confirms the Atlantic article.<br><br>The rug continues to be pulled out from under anyone who dares defend the President's character. Don't do it, folks. He's not worth it and the truth will ultimately embarrass you. <a href="https://t.co/sq6wbZfisi">https://t.co/sq6wbZfisi</a></p>— Heath Mayo (@HeathMayo) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeathMayo/status/1301980169171865600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
 
Since both AP and FoxNews - gasp - have both confirmed the Atlantic report, it is you and the rest of the Trump base who need to apologize for being so ******* naive. And even more so, for supporting a traitor in the WH who sides with Putin and insults and disparages our military veterans. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. But you're not, you never are. You are well beyond that stage by now. You will stick it out until the very end. Your choice. A bad choice, but your choice, regardless.


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fox News senior correspondent now out with reporting that explicitly confirms the Atlantic article.<br><br>The rug continues to be pulled out from under anyone who dares defend the President's character. Don't do it, folks. He's not worth it and the truth will ultimately embarrass you. <a href="https://t.co/sq6wbZfisi">https://t.co/sq6wbZfisi</a></p>— Heath Mayo (@HeathMayo) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeathMayo/status/1301980169171865600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

So basically you're saying it's a he said, she said scenario? One could conclude that those former Trump administrative officials (are their names known?), may be a tad butthurt, but what do I know? I'll wait for the media to tell me what to think.
 
lol at Tibs, flinging **** in the Bathhouse Barry thread, forgetting Slick Willie, Arkanacide, the Lolita Express.....at least when you go back in time Jimmuh was a decent man, even if he was incapable of understanding modern geopolitics.

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The desperation from the left is starting to mount. They know everything is leaning towards a landslide victory for Trump in November. So the TDS is kicking in extra hard now.
 
Why is it that none of these people will come forward? Why did they not come forward two years ago? The story line is they are afraid of the president's tweets.

Gutless cowards if true.
 
So basically you're saying it's a he said, she said scenario? One could conclude that those former Trump administrative officials (are their names known?), may be a tad butthurt, but what do I know? I'll wait for the media to tell me what to think.

Spot-on article from a sane journalist in an ever-increasing insane world:

Journalism’s New Propaganda Tool: Using “Confirmed” to Mean its Opposite
Outlets claiming to have “confirmed” Jeffrey Goldberg’s story about Trump’s troops comments are again abusing that vital term.

Glenn Greenwald
September 5 2020

ONE OF THE MOST HUMILIATING journalism debacles of the Trump era played out on December 8, 2017, first on CNN and then on MSNBC. The spectacle kicked off on that Friday morning at 11:00 a.m. when CNN, deploying its most melodramatic music and graphics designed to convey that a real bombshell was about to be dropped, announced that anonymous sources had provided the network with a smoking gun proving the Trump/Russia conspiracy once and for all: during the 2016 campaign, Donald Trump, Jr. had received a September 4 email with a secret encryption key that gave him advanced access to WikiLeaks’ servers containing the DNC emails which the group would subsequently release to the public ten days later. Cable news and online media spontaneously combusted, as is their wont, in shock, hysteria and awe over this proof that WikiLeaks and Trump were in cahoots.

CNN has ensured that no videos of the festivities are available on YouTube for anyone to watch. That’s because the claim was completely false in its most crucial respect. CNN misreported the date of the smoking gun email Trump, Jr. received: rather than being sent to him on September 4 — ten days prior to WikiLeaks’ public release, thus enabling secret access — the email was merely sent by a random member of the public after the public release by WikiLeaks (September 14), encouraging Trump, Jr. to look at those now-public emails.

Though the original false report cannot be viewed any longer (except in small snippets from other networks, principally Fox, discussing CNN’s debacle), one can view the cringe-inducing video of CNN’s Senior Congressional Correspondent Manu Raju explaining, after the Washington Post debunked the story, that “we are actually correcting” the reporting, doing his best to downplay what a massive blunder this was (though the whole thing is fantastic, my favorite line is when Raju says, with no small amount of understatement: “this appears to change the understanding of this story,” followed by: “perhaps the initial understanding of what this email was, perhaps is not as significant based on what we know now”: perhaps):

The CNN page which originally published the blockbuster story contains this rather significant correction at the top:

Washington (CNN) Correction: This story has been corrected to say the date of the email was September 14, 2016, not September 4, 2016. The story also changed the headline and removed a tweet from Donald Trump Jr., who posted a message about WikiLeaks on September 4, 2016.

So mistakes happen in journalism, even huge and embarrassing ones. Other than some petty schadenfreude, why is this worth remembering? The reason is that that sorry episode reflects a now-common but highly corrosive tactic of journalistic deceit.

Very shortly after CNN unveiled its false story, MSNBC’s intelligence community spokesman Ken Dilanian went on air and breathlessly announced that he had obtained independent confirmation that the CNN story was true. In a video segment I cannot recommend highly enough, Dilanian was introduced by an incredibly excited Hallie Jackson — who urged Dilanian to “tell us what we’ve just now learned,” adding: “I know you and some of our colleagues have confirmed some of this information: what’s up?” Dilanian then proceeded to explain what he had learned:

That’s right, Hallie. Two sources with direct knowledge of this are telling us that Congressional investigators have obtained an email from a man named “Mike Erickson” — obviously they don’t know if that’s his real name — offering Donald Trump and his son Donald Trump, Jr. access to WikiLeaks documents… It goes to the heart of the collusion question….. One of the big questions is: did [Trump Jr.] call the FBI?

How could that happen? How could MSNBC purport to confirm a false story from CNN? Shortly after, CBS News also purported to have “confirmed” the same false story: that Trump, Jr. received advanced access to the WikiLeaks documents. It’s one thing for a news outlet to make a mistake in reporting by, for instance, mis-reporting the date of an email and thus getting the story completely wrong. But how is it possible that multiple other outlets could “confirm” the same false report?

It’s possible because news outlets have completely distorted the term “confirmation” beyond all recognition. Indeed, they now use it to mean the exact opposite of what it actually means, thereby draping themselves in journalistic glory they have not earned and, worse, deceiving the public into believing that an unproven assertion has, in fact, been proven. With this disinformation method, they are doing the exact opposite of what journalism, at its core, is supposed to do: separate fact from speculation.

CNN ultimately blamed its anonymous sources for this error, but refused to out them by insisting that it was a somehow a good faith mistake rather than deliberate disinformation (how did multiple “good faith” sources all “accidentally misread” an email date in the same way? CNN, in the spirit of news outlets refusing to provide the accountability and transparency for themselves that they demand from others, refuses to this very day to address that question).

But what is clear is that the “confirmation” which both MSNBC and CBS claimed it had obtained for the story was anything but: all that happened was that the same sources which anonymously whispered these unverified, false claims to CNN then went and repeated the same unverified, false claims to other outlets, which then claimed that they “independently confirmed” the story even though they had done nothing of the sort.

IT SEEMS THE SAME MISLEADING TACTIC is now driving the supremely dumb but all-consuming news cycle centered on whether President Trump, as first reported by the Atlantic’s editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, made disparaging comments about The Troops. Goldberg claims that “four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day” — whom the magazine refuses to name because they fear “angry tweets” — told him that Trump made these comments. Trump, as well as former aides who were present that day (including Sarah Huckabee Sanders and John Bolton), deny that the report is accurate.

So we have anonymous sources making claims on one side, and Trump and former aides (including Bolton, now a harsh Trump critic) insisting that the story is inaccurate. Beyond deciding whether or not to believe Goldberg’s story based on what best advances one’s political interests, how can one resolve the factual dispute? If other media outlets could confirm the original claims from Goldberg, that would obviously be a significant advancement of the story.

Other media outlets — including Associated Press and Fox News — now claim that they did exactly that: “confirmed” the Atlantic story. But if one looks at what they actually did, at what this “confirmation” consists of, it is the opposite of what that word would mean, or should mean, in any minimally responsible sense. AP, for instance, merely claims that “a senior Defense Department official with firsthand knowledge of events and a senior U.S. Marine Corps officer who was told about Trump’s comments confirmed some of the remarks to The Associated Press,” while Fox merely said “a former senior Trump administration official who was in France traveling with the president in November 2018 did confirm other details surrounding that trip.”

In other words, all that likely happened is that the same sources who claimed to Jeffrey Goldberg, with no evidence, that Trump said this went to other outlets and repeated the same claims — the same tactic that enabled MSNBC and CBS to claim they had “confirmed” the fundamentally false CNN story about Trump Jr. receiving advanced access to the WikiLeaks archive. Or perhaps it was different sources aligned with those original sources and sharing their agenda who repeated these claims. Given that none of the sources making these claims have the courage to identify themselves, due to their fear of mean tweets, it is impossible to know.

But whatever happened, neither AP nor Fox obtained anything resembling “confirmation.” They just heard the same assertions that Goldberg heard, likely from the same circles if not the same people, and are now abusing the term “confirmation” to mean “unproven assertions” or “unverifiable claims” (indeed, Fox now says that “two sources who were on the trip in question with Trump refuted the main thesis of The Atlantic’s reporting”).

It should go without saying that none of this means that Trump did not utter these remarks or ones similar to them. He has made public statements in the past that are at least in the same universe as the ones reported by the Atlantic, and it is quite believable that he would have said something like this (though the absolute last person who should be trusted with anything, particularly interpreting claims from anonymous sources, is Jeffrey Goldberg, who has risen to one of the most important perches in journalism despite (or, more accurately because of) one of the most disgraceful and damaging records of spreading disinformation in service of the Pentagon and intelligence community’s agenda).

But journalism is not supposed to be grounded in whether something is “believable” or “seems like it could be true.” Its core purpose, the only thing that really makes it matter or have worth, is reporting what is true, or at least what evidence reveals. And that function is completely subverted when news outlets claim that they “confirmed” a previous report when they did nothing more than just talked to the same people who anonymously whispered the same things to them as were whispered to the original outlet.

Quite aside from this specific story about whether Trump loves The Troops, conflating the crucial journalistic concept of “confirmation” with “hearing the same idle gossip” or “unproven assertions” is a huge disservice. It is an instrument of propaganda, not reporting. And its use has repeatedly deceived rather than informed the public. Anyone who doubts that should review how it is that MSNBC and CBS both claimed to have “confirmed” a CNN report which turned out to be ludicrously and laughably false. Clearly, the term “confirmation” has lost its meaning in journalism.


https://theintercept.com/2020/09/05/journalisms-new-propaganda-tool-using-confirmed-to-mean-its-opposite/
 
Since both AP and FoxNews - gasp - have both confirmed the Atlantic report, it is you and the rest of the Trump base who need to apologize for being so ******* naive. And even more so, for supporting a traitor in the WH who sides with Putin and insults and disparages our military veterans. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. But you're not, you never are. You are well beyond that stage by now. You will stick it out until the very end. Your choice. A bad choice, but your choice, regardless.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fox News senior correspondent now out with reporting that explicitly confirms the Atlantic article.<br><br>The rug continues to be pulled out from under anyone who dares defend the President's character. Don't do it, folks. He's not worth it and the truth will ultimately embarrass you. <a href="https://t.co/sq6wbZfisi">https://t.co/sq6wbZfisi</a></p>— Heath Mayo (@HeathMayo) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeathMayo/status/1301980169171865600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

So then just leave us alone already.
 
The desperation from the left is starting to mount. They know everything is leaning towards a landslide victory for Trump in November. So the TDS is kicking in extra hard now.

Like injured and dying weasels backed into a corner and fighting for their life despite hopeless odds.
 
Since both AP and FoxNews - gasp - have both confirmed the Atlantic report, it is you and the rest of the Trump base who need to apologize for being so ******* naive. And even more so, for supporting a traitor in the WH who sides with Putin and insults and disparages our military veterans. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. But you're not, you never are. You are well beyond that stage by now. You will stick it out until the very end. Your choice. A bad choice, but your choice, regardless.

Already a central part of the story...that Trump cancelled the trip because he didn't want to get his hair wet...is demonstrably, provably false. Not one single source is willing to come forward. Until that happens this looks like a hit job, and even if that does happen motives are going to be questioned. It will backfire.

If he actually said these terrible things why make up the part about why the trip was cancelled? You wouldn't need that part to piss people off.
 
This should be in the Serbia and Kosovo thread.

The freeloader slumped on the couch paying no rent shouldn't be telling the ones who do pay the rent where things should be.

In other words, shut the **** up.
 
Here is Trump's problem in a nutshell. If the report is false it is believable because of all the nasty things Trump has called or said to people. Now he has to go on the defensive, but people can just post his old videos or tweets. I would like to think the report is false, but it would not surprise me if it was true. Either way people need to come forward instead of hiding
 
Here is Trump's problem in a nutshell. If the report is false it is believable because of all the nasty things Trump has called or said to people. Now he has to go on the defensive, but people can just post his old videos or tweets. I would like to think the report is false, but it would not surprise me if it was true. Either way people need to come forward instead of hiding

While it is true that some of Trump's past comments will leave a question in some minds, that's exactly what they were relying on when they crafted this little hit piece. I mean come on, this was 2 years ago and it's coming out now? When Pelosi and Biden both look like idiots right now and Trump was starting to surge? And the sources are staying anonymous while there are now 10 on record saying the President did not say that, including John ******* Bolton?

Four more witnesses have gone on the record to say that The Atlantic’s anonymously-sourced report claiming President Donald Trump called dead soldiers “losers” and “suckers” is false, bringing the total to 10.

Mick Mulvaney, former acting White House Chief of Staff, shot down The Atlantic’s report, saying, “As you all can probably imagine, I have seen more than my share of outrageous (and false) attacks on the President over the last few years. But this whole injured soldiers thing really, really pushes the envelope.”

“So, just to be clear: These claims are simply outrageous. I never heard the President disparage our war dead or wounded. In fact, the exact opposite is true. I was with him at the 75th Anniversary of the D-Day invasion in Normandy. As we flew over the beaches by helicopter he was outwardly in awe of the accomplishments of the Allied Forces, and the sacrifices they paid.”

Johnny DeStefano, Former counselor to the president, also disputed the report, saying: “I was on this trip. The Atlantic bit is not true. Period.”

Derek Lyons, staff secretary and counselor to the president, and Dan Walsh, former White House deputy chief of staff, have also both denied the report.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said on Friday that Lyons said in a statement:

I was with the president the morning after the scheduled visit. He was extremely disappointed that arrangements could not be made to get him to the site and that the trip had been cancelled. I have worked with the president for his entire administration. One of my responsibilities is working with him on the many letters he signs to the families of our nation’s fallen heroes. In all my time at the White House. I have never heard him utter a disparaging remark of any kind about our troops. In my view, he holds the brave men and women of our armed forces in the highest regard.

McEnany then read Walsh’s statement: “I can attest it to the fact that there was a bad weather called in France and that the helicopters were unable to safely make the flight. Overall, the president’s support and respect for our American troops past and present is unquestionable.”

All of this comes after former national security adviser John Bolton—who is a fierce Trump opponent—went on the record and disputed The Atlantic’s report.

“I didn’t hear either of those comments or anything even resembling them. I was there at the point in time that morning when it was decided that he would not go Aisne-Marne cemetery,” Bolton told Fox News. “He decided not to do it because of John Kelly’s recommendation. It was entirely a weather-related decision, and I thought the proper thing to do. I never heard he made that kind of comment about another country’s forces either, no.”

And wasn't it convenient that within mere hours the Biden campaign had a shiny new ad about it? The worst thing Trump ever said in my mind was when he talked about John McCain getting caught, or something to that effect. Whatever anybody thought about John McCain, you don't say that **** on record let alone even think it. I know they had a contentious relationship but there was no excuse for that.

That said, I think this is just a political hit piece.
 
This should be in the Serbia and Kosovo thread. Oh, never mind...
That's where Slick Willie, for no real reason, with no precipitating incidents, with no declaration or war, with no Congressional approval, bombed the Serbs for a bit.
Is that what you want a new thread for?

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Here is Trump's problem in a nutshell. If the report is false it is believable because of all the nasty things Trump has called or said to people. Now he has to go on the defensive, but people can just post his old videos or tweets. I would like to think the report is false, but it would not surprise me if it was true. Either way people need to come forward instead of hiding

By the same token the Dems and the media have serious credibility problems because so much of what they’ve said about Trump has been proven to be wildly exaggerated or downright false.
 
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