I don't think it is out of the realm of a possibility.
We will see. But he will have his opportunities to shine.
Ben Roethlisberger: Don't plan on Mason Rudolph replacing me for a while
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I don't think it is out of the realm of a possibility.
We will see. But he will have his opportunities to shine.
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I think that 2014 pick should have his OWN thread so we can discuss the pick and NOT get it mixed up or lost within the system.
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Well, like I said, you never know which Landry is going to show up on a given week. If God forbid Ben is out for a while, Landry would have to stink up the joint for at least two weeks in a row before they give Rudolph a shot. Thing is, Landry isn't bad two weeks in a row. He'll look pretty good one week and the next he'll look like he's never seen a football before.
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I will consider Mason Rudolph a total bust if he can’t beat out Landry Jones year one.
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Has Landry ever started two games in a row??? My memory isn't very good on that topic. When he has come into a game he has looked fairly good at times and I think that is due to NOT having all week to think about it and put pressure on himself. When he gets to think about it....I.E. Two consecutive weeks is when he has to much time to think/rethink pressure onto himself. Rudolf won't take the reins until cool shades is absolutely certain or forced into that decision.
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There are currently 2 years left on Ben's contract. For starting QBs, this is when the Rooneys have usually restructured. Not even a peep about a contract negotiation going on.
I think the Steelers will not redo Ben's contract this year, and see where they are at next year. With 1 year left, they may restructure, or they may let Ben play out his contract, and then Tag him for a year or 2. That would lock up Ben until he his 39. In all honesty, I think that is the maximum time Ben would have for his career.
I think the Steelers will not redo Ben's contract this year, and see where they are at next year. With 1 year left, they may restructure, or they may let Ben play out his contract, and then Tag him for a year or 2. That would lock up Ben until he his 39. In all honesty, I think that is the maximum time Ben would have for his career.
As I recall he did when Ben and Vick were both hurt. Agree with your point on when he has time to think about it. When Ben gets hurt and he has to step in to the game he does okay. When he has all week to prepare and think about it, not so good. Of course that was all two years ago so maybe time and practice has made him better. I just think he's one of those players who's either hot or cold.
However it shakes out I think he is here until he retires...
That depends, if Ben wants to pull a Brett Favre, the Steelers may have no choice just like the Packers as sad as that is. They may have to move on to their version of Rodgers (not suggesting he will be as good or close to) when the time comes, because I certainly wouldn't want to miss out on having stability at the QB position for another decade simply because of nostalgia no matter how much I love and will miss Ben
But Rudolph could also prove not to be the guy, so we'll have to see
Don't believe this, as IMO Ben would have to regress as a thrower.
In that event sure anything could happen.
But I have the feeling Ben will hang it up before his arm fails him.
Favre was still able to sling it when they moved on, the fact is if you have a guy you are confident is ready to take the reigns of the franchise do you really risk losing him for 38-39 yr old QB who is of course a Hof just like Favre so you can get a couple more seasons, maybe if you're lucky. If that time comes the decision has to be the future, regardless of Ben's status as a thrower. But I agree that I don't think Ben would waste his time with another team and most likely would retire at that point
Favre post Holmgren threw too many INTs. And I would think the talent Rogers showed in camp, gave them the impression he would be a upgrade.
Some might not agree but I see Ben as a better talent than Favre. And although Rudolph has his possibilities. For him to clearly shine over Ben is a pretty hard sell.
Yep and Rogers was a first round QB and now possibly the best QB in the league, I'm sure he showed alot in camp.
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I can agree that Ben's game translates better for playing longer, because unlike Favre he hasn't relied heavily on having a rocket for an arm. Just as he had to adjust his playing style of holding on to the ball too long, Ben can make it work longer. I'm just saying there could be a tough decision down the road or Rudolph could prove not to be the answer or he could and Ben just retire without incident
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At some point the decline of Ben will be overtaken by the youth of Rudolph and it will be obvious the younger player gives us the best chance of winning.
Likely doesn't happen for at least 3 years.
Likely doesn't happen for at least 3 years.
If Ben doesn't retire before that decline.
Ben Roethlisberger's tantrum only validates Steelers' Mason Rudolph pick
Ben Roethlisberger's emotional reaction to Pittsburgh drafting his potential replacement is understandable. But the Steelers made the right move, because they now have a more motivated veteran quarterback.
When Ben Roethlisberger got his first chance to publicly discuss the Steelers' draft selection of his potential successor in Mason Rudolph, the Pittsburgh starting QB made it clear he wasn't a fan of the pick.
"I was surprised when they took a quarterback because I thought that, maybe in the third round, you know you can get some really good football players that can help this team now,” Roethlisberger said during an interview on Pittsburgh's 93.7 The Fan, also suggesting the pick felt like an affront to his commitment to playing for the Steelers at age 36. "I think they believed me. Once they drafted a quarterback in the third, I wasn't sure if they believed me or not."
Although there is some rationale to Roethlisberger's initial emotions, the Steelers made the right move for the better of both the team's future and its Hall of Fame quarterback's present.
Rudolph will help the Steelers win immediately, and Roethlisberger with his words proved why. Rudolph might not be of help on the field as long as Big Ben is healthy and active, but the rookie's presence already has lit an extra fire under Roethlisberger. Pittsburgh now hopes the veteran's big words in May will turn into bigger actions come September.
The situation should sound familiar. In 2013, a 36-year-old Tom Brady struggled through one of his shakiest seasons as the Patriots' starter as they fell short of the Super Bowl. New England then drafted Jimmy Garoppolo in the second round of the 2014 NFL Draft. After a shaky start to the 2014 season, Brady was rejuvenated all the way through a victory in the Super Bowl for his then-elusive fourth ring.
In a more recent example, Alex Smith in 2017 saw the Chiefs draft Patrick Mahomes in the first round after the veteran had led them to a 12-4 record and a division title. Smith responded with his best NFL season at age 33.
NFL DRAFT GRADES:
How Steelers fared with 2018 picks
The Steelers are coming off four consecutive playoff berths and four consecutive playoff disappointments. Since a prolific 2013 season, Roethlisberger has been inconsistent and inefficient. Although he has put up a few monster games, some low points — like poor road play and last year's regular-season game against the Jaguars — have damaged either his team's postseason standing or its ultimate fate.
With Roethlisberger's play leveling off late in his career, and given his own hints at retirement, the Steelers can't be blamed for accelerating their plans of lining up a replacement.
Part of Roethlisberger's frustration over the pick is the fact that the Steelers used a fourth-rounder on a QB last year, too, in Joshua Dobbs. When Roethlisberger says the team should have thought more about sitting on their depth chart of Dobbs and backup Landry Jones, he means he doesn't want to worry about an actual potential heir apparent such as Rudolph.
The traits that will go down as Roethlisberger's signature strengths on the field — his competitiveness and his confidence — are also sources of weakness. He can overcome bad games knowing he's capable of anything with his physical talents, but that confidence can translate to the kind of jerkiness that can be detrimental to a team. For example, the tension between Roethlisberger and Todd Haley contributed to the Steelers' offensive coordinator change this offseason. The QB also never had the greatest relationship with wide receiver Martavis Bryant, who was traded to the Raiders.
The Steelers did think about helping Roethlisberger when they hired his beloved quarterbacks coach Randy Fichtner as coordinator to replace Haley. They thought about Roethlisberger again when they drafted wide receiver James Washington in the second round to replace Bryant. Pittsburgh is pushing the right buttons on Roethlisberger without having to reprogram him. The Rudolph selection simply is a sneaky way of motivating Big Ben out of his comfort zone.
If Pittsburgh's overall offseason goal was making Roethlisberger realize the team's window to win another Super Bowl with him is shrinking fast, consider it accomplished. The Steelers are expecting Roethlisberger to respond with another spike in his play, and his swagger suggests he will deliver. Even if that production comes out of arrogance, it's good for the team's bottom line.
Pittsburgh's only real QB competition in 2018 will be between Jones, Dobbs and Rudolph for the backup role. Even so, the team could not have found a better carrot to dangle in front of its veteran starter.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sp...-mason-rudolph-nfl/1akk83fvr6o761763blfd0rkuu
Ben Roethlisberger's emotional reaction to Pittsburgh drafting his potential replacement is understandable. But the Steelers made the right move, because they now have a more motivated veteran quarterback.
When Ben Roethlisberger got his first chance to publicly discuss the Steelers' draft selection of his potential successor in Mason Rudolph, the Pittsburgh starting QB made it clear he wasn't a fan of the pick.
"I was surprised when they took a quarterback because I thought that, maybe in the third round, you know you can get some really good football players that can help this team now,” Roethlisberger said during an interview on Pittsburgh's 93.7 The Fan, also suggesting the pick felt like an affront to his commitment to playing for the Steelers at age 36. "I think they believed me. Once they drafted a quarterback in the third, I wasn't sure if they believed me or not."
Although there is some rationale to Roethlisberger's initial emotions, the Steelers made the right move for the better of both the team's future and its Hall of Fame quarterback's present.
Rudolph will help the Steelers win immediately, and Roethlisberger with his words proved why. Rudolph might not be of help on the field as long as Big Ben is healthy and active, but the rookie's presence already has lit an extra fire under Roethlisberger. Pittsburgh now hopes the veteran's big words in May will turn into bigger actions come September.
The situation should sound familiar. In 2013, a 36-year-old Tom Brady struggled through one of his shakiest seasons as the Patriots' starter as they fell short of the Super Bowl. New England then drafted Jimmy Garoppolo in the second round of the 2014 NFL Draft. After a shaky start to the 2014 season, Brady was rejuvenated all the way through a victory in the Super Bowl for his then-elusive fourth ring.
In a more recent example, Alex Smith in 2017 saw the Chiefs draft Patrick Mahomes in the first round after the veteran had led them to a 12-4 record and a division title. Smith responded with his best NFL season at age 33.
NFL DRAFT GRADES:
How Steelers fared with 2018 picks
The Steelers are coming off four consecutive playoff berths and four consecutive playoff disappointments. Since a prolific 2013 season, Roethlisberger has been inconsistent and inefficient. Although he has put up a few monster games, some low points — like poor road play and last year's regular-season game against the Jaguars — have damaged either his team's postseason standing or its ultimate fate.
With Roethlisberger's play leveling off late in his career, and given his own hints at retirement, the Steelers can't be blamed for accelerating their plans of lining up a replacement.
Part of Roethlisberger's frustration over the pick is the fact that the Steelers used a fourth-rounder on a QB last year, too, in Joshua Dobbs. When Roethlisberger says the team should have thought more about sitting on their depth chart of Dobbs and backup Landry Jones, he means he doesn't want to worry about an actual potential heir apparent such as Rudolph.
The traits that will go down as Roethlisberger's signature strengths on the field — his competitiveness and his confidence — are also sources of weakness. He can overcome bad games knowing he's capable of anything with his physical talents, but that confidence can translate to the kind of jerkiness that can be detrimental to a team. For example, the tension between Roethlisberger and Todd Haley contributed to the Steelers' offensive coordinator change this offseason. The QB also never had the greatest relationship with wide receiver Martavis Bryant, who was traded to the Raiders.
The Steelers did think about helping Roethlisberger when they hired his beloved quarterbacks coach Randy Fichtner as coordinator to replace Haley. They thought about Roethlisberger again when they drafted wide receiver James Washington in the second round to replace Bryant. Pittsburgh is pushing the right buttons on Roethlisberger without having to reprogram him. The Rudolph selection simply is a sneaky way of motivating Big Ben out of his comfort zone.
If Pittsburgh's overall offseason goal was making Roethlisberger realize the team's window to win another Super Bowl with him is shrinking fast, consider it accomplished. The Steelers are expecting Roethlisberger to respond with another spike in his play, and his swagger suggests he will deliver. Even if that production comes out of arrogance, it's good for the team's bottom line.
Pittsburgh's only real QB competition in 2018 will be between Jones, Dobbs and Rudolph for the backup role. Even so, the team could not have found a better carrot to dangle in front of its veteran starter.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sp...-mason-rudolph-nfl/1akk83fvr6o761763blfd0rkuu
Unless Rudolph sucks, that's a huge possibility, everyone seems to just assume this guy is a franchise QB
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Oh ok..just the huge possibility part made me wonder
I said huge possibility because it's extremely difficult to find a franchise QB so the odds are against it. I hope the dude breaks every damn record there is.
It just seems alot are assuming he's going to step in and the team won't miss a beat.
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Not sure if Ben is seeing the whole picture with respect to his statement: "I was surprised when they took a quarterback because I thought that, maybe in the third round, you know you can get some really good football players that can help this team now,”
I think most of us are looking at Rudolph as a potential upgrade to the backup position at this point, not to take over for a couple years and only if he shows he can be a starting QB. If Ben goes down, who knows if this kid can keep us afloat until he returns but I'm sure that Laundry cannot.
I think most of us are looking at Rudolph as a potential upgrade to the backup position at this point, not to take over for a couple years and only if he shows he can be a starting QB. If Ben goes down, who knows if this kid can keep us afloat until he returns but I'm sure that Laundry cannot.
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Exactly so if its very hard if you think you have a shot at one you should take it. He wont be stepping in anytime soon hopefully. By the time he steps in hopefully he will know the offense in and out. Then we can see what we got.
