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Brady retiring

If I am being honest not one poster on this site gives a **** about your tarded *** opinions. That is 💯 percent because you are clearly challenged.

When you don't agree with someone, is it commonplace for you to post additional unsubstantiated claims and resort to childish name-calling?

if facts were on one's side, I wouldn't think such behavior would be necessary.
 
When you don't agree with someone, is it commonplace for you to post additional unsubstantiated claims and resort to childish name-calling?

if facts were on one's side, I wouldn't think such behavior would be necessary.
Did I hurt your feelings troll? You should just leave then. Make yourself feel better go play Frogger in traffic.
 
Can you provide a citation which shows that this was proven? In addition, what punishment was handed down to them as a result of it being proven? Thanks
Bob, or Bob's cousin from Boston, can you please provide documentation that you aren't a total douchebag? Pretty sure the agreement for posting here states no douchebags allowed. If it's not a requirement, it should be.
 
I will try to explain in a fashion that even you can understand.

You said that Belicheat winning a lot of games does not mean he cheated. I pointed out that genuinely great coach can win with mediocre QB's, like Cowher did. I then posited that Belicheat has won ONLY with cheating and Tommy Boy, thereby acknowledging in part that Tommy Boy is a very good QB but someone who miraculously got stronger as he aged, unlike 100% of the rest of the population.

Get it?
Unfortunately, I do get it. And much like the first time, it still isn't relevant to anything that I posted.

Yep - Belichick is a great coach
Yep - Cowher was a great coach who had multiple mediocre QBs
Yep - there is still no proof that Belichick had to cheat to be great
Yep - People who take extremely good care of themselves can maintain better health and fitness later in life. The fact that this can happen doesn't prove conspiracies.
 
Did I hurt your feelings troll? You should just leave then. Make yourself feel better go play Frogger in traffic.
You didn't hurt my feelings at all. I just wanted to be sure that you don't have a condition that we are unaware of and need medical attention. It was the lashing out and name-calling when you don't agree with what one has to say that made me want to confirm that everything is ok.. That's all.
 
You didn't hurt my feelings at all. I just wanted to be sure that you don't have a condition that we are unaware of and need medical attention. It was the lashing out and name-calling when you don't agree with what one has to say that made me want to confirm that everything is ok.. That's all.
Sounds like your feelings are hurt. Too bad for you. Now get to that Frogger it isn't going to play itself. Can you jump high? EH no matter.
 
Last I checked, two men "thinking" something isn't proof that it happened. Both Peyton and Dungy have frequently expressed admiration of Brady and Belichick. If what you posted isn't completely fabricated, then they must not have thought it for too long.
I mean they openly discussed this on espn… this isn’t some secret
 
Sounds like your feelings are hurt. Too bad for you. Now get to that Frogger it isn't going to play itself. Can you jump high? EH no matter.

So, when someone has an opinion that differs from your own, your response it to hope that they do something that could result in accident, serious injury, or possibly worse? Wow .. stay classy there, guy.
 
So, when someone has an opinion that differs from your own, your response it to hope that they do something that could result in accident, serious injury, or possibly worse? Wow .. stay classy there, guy.
 
So, can I repeat my "ban the troll" request?

This has been rehashed over many years. The only thing we have learned is that Brady cheated a lot, and cheater fans won't admit it.
 
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When you don't agree with someone, is it commonplace for you to post additional unsubstantiated claims and resort to childish name-calling?

if facts were on one's side, I wouldn't think such behavior would be necessary.
Let’s make it simple….if Spygate was a conspiracy that‘s based on “unsubstantiated claims”, then why was Kraft and his Head Coach fined, plus Kraft’s franchise penalized with removal of a premium draft selection?

Surely the League wouldn't create conspiracy. So either you agree they are cheaters or you are agreeing that there is a conspiracy from the League for handing out penalties for something that wasn’t true itself?
 
On a positive note, if Brady doesn't retire, the Steelers are scheduled to play them at Heinz Field this year. I'm sure Brady and Arians are already plotting what type of cheating will be necessary to beat a rival that is coached by Tomlin and an offense lead by Canada and Rudolph.

For Brady's sake, I hope Mason doesn't make this a shoot-out. I can't see that ending well for Tom.
 
So, can I repeat my "ban the troll" request?

This has been rehashed over many years. The only think we have learned is that Brady cheated a lot, and cheater fans won't admit it.

Dj - instead of requesting that a fellow fan be banned simply because he doesn't share the same feelings as you, maybe you can articulate what your feelings are exactly in an attempt to better support your position. For example, do you think Brady wasn't good? If so, are you able to support this assertion with facts?
 
On a positive note, if Brady doesn't retire, the Steelers are scheduled to play them at Heinz Field this year. I'm sure Brady and Arians are already plotting what type of cheating will be necessary to beat a rival that is coached by Tomlin and an offense lead by Canada and Rudolph.

For Brady's sake, I hope Mason doesn't make this a shoot-out. I can't see that ending well for Tom.
You demand attention don't you girl. 😅Ike gave you some why don't you answer his question.
 
The Pats were cheating back into Cowhers tenure… there were whispers back into 01 about it.. its also easy to pick out when they were able to and when they weren’t…

One of the analytical stat media groups,in the mid 00’s, before spygate, pro football outsiders, i think, did a huge breakdown of a bunch of great head coach’s ability to get their team in the correct general playcall… so for instance calling a max protect or screen play against a blitz or flooding a zone or vice versa on D.

Billy B had this stretch where he was way above the greats numbers… he just always had the right play in especially later in games. Everyone is at like 50%ish.. he was at like way over 75%ish or 80% or something ridiculous…

After the accusations they revisited it for the period of tge first half after the league made adjustments

( oh yeah, among the nfls responses to the first spygate, they gave teams tge ability to mike one defensive player like a qb, and in a move that few paid attention to, added encryption to the qb mike system… they would redo the encryption a couple more times after various pats scandals too…)

And suddenly after those moves the ability of his team to be in the right formations dropped back down to what you’d expect from a good coach, only to go back up the next season…..

They taped practices
They taped signals
Peyton manning and tony dungy thought they bugged the locker room
Read the espn report on that era… they stole playbooks
They were accused of screwing with the audio system, outright stealing playcalls off the audio system
Miking up multiple players with radios that didn’t cut off at all rather than with15 seconds on the playclock….

Remember the insiders said that the harsh punishment for brady over deflategate was because the owners were forcing it on goodell because he let the pats off too lightly from spygate and they felt that theykept doing many of the things the league told them not to… also the league mysteriously had to move to more and more harsher encryption of the sideline audio signals and overhauling that stuff is really expensive… they didn’t keep doing it for no reason

Its like I said before… enough nflrs talk about it in their friend circles that its only a matter of time that the stuff not talked about in the espn expose comes out eventually….

And yes, the league destroyed evidence… the tapes, tge audio equipment ( which, when directly asked about it in the first couple press conferences, Goodell claimed was sent out to “experts” to evaluate what it did, then utterly blew off any info about it once it was out of sight, out of mind)


And no one acknowledges this publicly because they know the NFL will silence them. I' not talking us commeners but the professionals. Could you imagine Horaldo actually addressing this.

The Cheaters definately cheated to a way higher degree than we the fans know. It definately made a difference in out come of games. Both those statements are undisputable.

Their cheating more likely than not cost the STEELERS multiple oppertunities at a chance for Super Bowl titles.

The perfect storm combination of Roger Godell and Handjob Bob allowed this to happen for so long. Remeber handjob bob is huge cable money contributing to NFL pay higher than any other owner through TV contracts. Don't bite the hand that feeds you sort of deal.

Cowher wanted to eat **** coated nails before putting out that PSA about how the cheating never made a difference video at the time Spygate happened. At the time i had my suspition but durring BEN's possible retirement segment it was very evident. Body & verbal language confirmed that.

As some may say, who cares ? I care and every decent minded individual cares. What contributes to society change.......... silence.





Salute the nation
 
Dj - instead of requesting that a fellow fan be banned simply because he doesn't share the same feelings as you, maybe you can articulate what your feelings are exactly in an attempt to better support your position. For example, do you think Brady wasn't good? If so, are you able to support this assertion with facts?
You were given plenty of facts by posters you chose to ignore each and every one of them. Classic cheatriot fan.
 
Gotta say, I'm a bit surprised if he comes out officially to the public and not just some journalists. I heard a guy say that Brady was due $15 million on February 4th, so he doubted that he would officially decide before pocketing that money which is owed to him.
 
Let’s make it simple….if Spygate was a conspiracy that‘s based on “unsubstantiated claims”, then why was Kraft and his Head Coach fined, plus Kraft’s franchise penalized with removal of a premium draft selection?

Surely the League wouldn't create conspiracy. So either you agree they are cheaters or you are agreeing that there is a conspiracy from the League for handing out penalties for something that wasn’t true itself?
Ben was suspended for 6 games (reduced to 4) and there was no evidence of what he was accused of. I guess I'm trying to understand what your point is.
 
Ben was suspended for 6 games (reduced to 4) and there was no evidence of what he was accused of. I guess I'm trying to understand what your point is.
 
SlobbingSam doesn't seem to understand a lot.
 
And no one acknowledges this publicly because they know the NFL will silence them.







Salute the nation

Oh. I see. So, now the narrative is more people would be corroborating these "Patriot cheat" accusations, but out of fear of the NFL cutting their brake lines or sending men in black suites to their homes with semi-automatics, they are opting to stay silent and preserve their own safety instead?

Serious question. Wouldn't just admitting that the Pats were better than us be a lot easier and more sound than all of this?
 
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Oh. I see. So, now the narrative is more people would be corroborating these "Patriot cheat" accusations but out of fear of the NFL cutting their brake lines or sending men in black suites to their homes with semi-automatics, they are opting to stay silent and preserve their own safety instead?

Serious question. Wouldn't just admitting that the Pats were better than us be a lot easier and more sound than all of this?
Serious question why do you demand so much attention? Girls now adays.😁 I admit your cheatriot team is a bunch of scum bag cheaters slobbingSam.
 
SlobbingSam doesn't seem to understand a lot.


He reminds me of that dipshit from florida that came on here acting like he was a STEELERS fan but in reality he was a cheatriots fan. I think he could possibly be one and the same as their knowledge level and presentation methode (s) are nearly the same.




Salute the nation
 
He reminds me of that dipshit from florida that came on here acting like he was a STEELERS fan but in reality he was a cheatriots fan. I think he could possibly be one and the same as their knowledge level and presentation method (s) are nearly the same.




Salute the nation
This girl is needing a lot of attention. A lot.😅 But you never know you might be right
 
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