Brady retiring

[wig]

Ben acted like an ******* to a sorority girl and her sisters framed him… it was all spelled out on their social media before they tried to delete it… and was the only reason that da didn’t press charges.

Well, that and the fact that the rape kit came back negative.

And the girl had no ******* idea WHAT happened in the bathroom. Her statement was a master's class in obliviousness. The ONE thing she could remember clearly was that Ben Roethlisberger had sex with her.

Of course, the rape kit proved otherwise, but hey... facts and ****.

As for the Tahoe lady... She was a ******* nut-job from day one. Ben screwed her the previous year on a promo golf trip and she decided she was going to have his babies. She told EVERYONE she worked with that they were together and that he was going to marry her. She had a ****-ton of "I Love Ben Roethlisberger" letters and notes on her computer at work and she made told EVERYONE she could that they were together.

He returned the following year and told her to **** off and she got pissy. Attempted to sue Roethlisberger AND the casino. What most of you probably don't know (I lived in Tahoe, working as a software dev and I still have friends in the area and in the casino industry.) is that the Casino had that **** sorted out REAL quick and in a hurry because they just gave the lawyers all the **** from her work machine and they said..."Ya. Got it."

 

[MTC]

Do you have a citation that proves you are a Steeler fan and not an undercover cheatriot ball licker? When you provide evidence of that I will answer your question.

Cheatriot ball licker made me laugh. You owe me a gatorade

 

[slashsteel]

Goodell, the owners. It all falls on them.

It does matter when the punishments happen. From an argument perspective the punishments should give ease of mind of fair competition moving forth.


Honestly I have no emotion in this. Like I always say, pro sports are entertainment to me. A win or loss isn’t affecting my personal life.

I’d just like to know what exactly irks some over something of which they have no control over.

Cheating over and over and over again to the point you are continually effecting outcomes irks some. Some it doesn't.

 

[MTC]

It might not be the clarification you desire. It very well could be more shame on the cheats and Goodell. If in Vegas I know what I would bet on.

And with that lack of clarification I move on and just hope the Steelers stay entertaining. There is nothing I can do. Hindsight and wishful thinking is all I have.

 

[slashsteel]

Well, that and the fact that the rape kit came back negative.

And the girl had no ******* idea WHAT happened in the bathroom. Her statement was a master's class in obliviousness. The ONE thing she could remember clearly was that Ben Roethlisberger had sex with her.

Of course, the rape kit proved otherwise, but hey... facts and ****.

As for the Tahoe lady... She was a ******* nut-job from day one. Ben screwed her the previous year on a promo golf trip and she decided she was going to have his babies. She told EVERYONE she worked with that they were together and that he was going to marry her. She had a ****-ton of "I Love Ben Roethlisberger" letters and notes on her computer at work and she made told EVERYONE she could that they were together.

He returned the following year and told her to **** off and she got pissy. Attempted to sue Roethlisberger AND the casino. What most of you probably don't know (I lived in Tahoe, working as a software dev and I still have friends in the area and in the casino industry.) is that the Casino had that **** sorted out REAL quick and in a hurry because they just gave the lawyers all the **** from her work machine and they said..."Ya. Got it."

Till to this day cheatriot fans try to use it as some sort of bizarro world defense. Pathetic group of fans.

 

[slashsteel]

And with that lack of clarification I move on and just hope the Steelers stay entertaining. There is nothing I can do. Hindsight and wishful thinking is all I have.

They will still entertain you might not like that outcome either. It goes like this.

W L W L W L Tie L L W W. Just miss the playoffs or playoff blowout. Then rinse and repeat. Until well the day significant changes come about. Which is why I have tried to glue in on a single game instead of the overall picture. And some individual performances.

 

[MTC]

Well, that and the fact that the rape kit came back negative.

And the girl had no ******* idea WHAT happened in the bathroom. Her statement was a master's class in obliviousness. The ONE thing she could remember clearly was that Ben Roethlisberger had sex with her.

Of course, the rape kit proved otherwise, but hey... facts and ****.

As for the Tahoe lady... She was a ******* nut-job from day one. Ben screwed her the previous year on a promo golf trip and she decided she was going to have his babies. She told EVERYONE she worked with that they were together and that he was going to marry her. She had a ****-ton of "I Love Ben Roethlisberger" letters and notes on her computer at work and she made told EVERYONE she could that they were together.

He returned the following year and told her to **** off and she got pissy. Attempted to sue Roethlisberger AND the casino. What most of you probably don't know (I lived in Tahoe, working as a software dev and I still have friends in the area and in the casino industry.) is that the Casino had that **** sorted out REAL quick and in a hurry because they just gave the lawyers all the **** from her work machine and they said..."Ya. Got it."

What’s done is done. Ben went through all the legal aspects of it. Nothing left to say. Case closed

 

[MTC]

They will still entertain you might not like that outcome either. It goes like this.

W L W L W L Tie L L W W. Just miss the playoffs or playoff blowout. Then rinse and repeat. Until well the day significant changes come about. Which is why I have tried to glue in on a single game instead of the overall picture. And some individual performances.

Lol. Yep exactly.

I don’t sit in front of the tv religiously with the Steelers or Pens like I used to. Work and family obligations pull me away. But the days I do. Whether they win or lose. I just enjoy the quietness of getting away from life. I was three years sober up until this year. I’ll crack open a couple brews on occasion and enjoy a football or hockey game. The way Najee ran, I will admit I held my breathe at times. He fights for yards but I always feared his leg getting caught

 

[Slovan Sam]

Well, that and the fact that the rape kit came back negative.

Wig - did you personally witness the test results?

And the girl had no ******* idea WHAT happened in the bathroom.

Did she tell you this?

Her statement was a master's class in obliviousness. The ONE thing she could remember clearly was that Ben Roethlisberger had sex with her.

Of course, the rape kit proved otherwise, but hey... facts and ****.

Again, please advise as to what your involvement was as it was related to reviewing the test kit results. Thanks

As for the Tahoe lady... She was a ******* nut-job from day one.

Can you elaborate as to the type of test she was given to determine that she was "nuts"? Did you personally administer said test?

She told EVERYONE she worked with that they were together and that he was going to marry her.

Do you personally know all these 'supposed' people in question? Does "everyone" include you?

She had a ****-ton of "I Love Ben Roethlisberger" letters and notes on her computer at work and she made told EVERYONE she could that they were together.

Did she tell you this?

Attempted to sue Roethlisberger AND the casino. What most of you probably don't know (I lived in Tahoe, working as a software dev and I still have friends in the area and in the casino industry.) is that the Casino had that **** sorted out REAL quick and in a hurry because they just gave the lawyers all the **** from her work machine and they said..."Ya. Got it."

Do you have any verifiable citations that you could produce which would assist us in substantiating these claims?

Thanks

 

[slashsteel]

Lol. Yep exactly.

I don’t sit in front of the tv religiously with the Steelers or Pens like I used to. Work and family obligations pull me away. But the days I do. Whether they win or lose. I just enjoy the quietness of getting away from life. I was three years sober up until this year. I’ll crack open a couple brews on occasion and enjoy a football or hockey game. The way Najee ran, I will admit I held my breathe at times. He fights for yards but I always feared his leg getting caught

Well you stay the course of good health. Man I love every game at a stadium or on TV. Been to every Pittsburgh professional sporting event. Very thankful for each Latrobe visit as well. I get caught up in many memories while visiting so I don't need a billion autographs or need to talk to said person, etc . Whatever happens those days pure enjoyment.

 

[slashsteel]

Wig - did you personally witness the test results?

Did she tell you this?

Again, please advise as to what your involvement was as it was related to reviewing the test kit results. Thanks

Can you elaborate as to the type of test she was given to determine that she was "nuts"? Did you personally administer said test?

Do you personally know all these 'supposed' people in question? Does "everyone" include you?

Did she tell you this?


Do you have any verifiable citations that you could produce which would assist us in substantiating these claims?

Thanks

I think we need to see your citation proving you are a Steeler fan before you proceeding with any more fucktarded questions.

Can you confirm show any factual evidence that you aren't on a ladder nightly Brady ball gazing? Hey if you pudslapper one off who am I to judge right?

Just don't hijack any of those plants by his dumpster he isn't too fond of that.

 

[Hypocycloids]

Wig - did you personally witness the test results?

Did she tell you this?

Again, please advise as to what your involvement was as it was related to reviewing the test kit results. Thanks

Can you elaborate as to the type of test she was given to determine that she was "nuts"? Did you personally administer said test?

Do you personally know all these 'supposed' people in question? Does "everyone" include you?

Did she tell you this?


Do you have any verifiable citations that you could produce which would assist us in substantiating these claims?

Thanks

You've just gone a little too far.
You ain't no Steeler fan dude, otherwise you would have known the facts of the case and it would never have occurred to you to ask such absurd questions.
Wigs didn't just pull these out of thin air. Those were the facts of the case that you could have read anywhere.

Here's one such place:
A rape kit showed no evidence, though the victim told a doctor, "A boy kind of raped me." That, is coupled by a recent video dispersed throughout the media showing the victim telling how she allowed Roethlisberger to have sex with her so he would not hurt her anymore.

How Much Time Does Big Ben Need to be Forgiven?

Ben Roethlisberger is back in camp with the Pittsburgh Steelers and has been talking about his sexual assault accusations to reporters recently...

bleacherreport.com

I don't think we'll be hearing from you anymore.

 

[Slovan Sam]

You just gave yourself away.
You ain't no Steeler fan dude, otherwise you would have known the facts of the case and it would never have occurred to you to ask such absurd questions.
Wigs didn't just pull these out of thin air. Those were the facts of the case that you could have read anywhere.

Here's one such place:
A rape kit showed no evidence, though the victim told a doctor, "A boy kind of raped me." That, is coupled by a recent video dispersed throughout the media showing the victim telling how she allowed Roethlisberger to have sex with her so he would not hurt her anymore.

How Much Time Does Big Ben Need to be Forgiven?

Ben Roethlisberger is back in camp with the Pittsburgh Steelers and has been talking about his sexual assault accusations to reporters recently...

bleacherreport.com

I don't think we'll be hearing from you anymore.

Hi Stewart. I see where you mentioned "the facts of this case", but instead of providing police reports or witness statements you provided a vague article from bleacherreport.com. Since you promised "facts", is it fair for me to assume that you are gathering up the necessary police reports and witness statements? Please advise.

 

[JMM]

I understand your labeling me a "Pats fan" is intended to discredit the factual things that I'm saying, but for what it's worth, if I was a Patriots fan, I would say as much and I wouldn't be posting on a Steeler forum.

If the truth is on one's side, discrediting someone shouldn't need to be a focal point.

Guy, you were discredited about 18-19 pages ago as a fraud. If you didn't try coming across as a Steeler fan first and foremost then the discussion might have some semblance of validity but the fact that you are impersonating something for which you are not, why should anyone take you seriously?

You keep trying to do your best Perry Mason but a judge would have thrown out your fraudulent *** out of his courtroom long ago.

 

[Djfan]

Don't feed the trolls.

 

[bermudasteel]

I just got an alert - 5 minutes ago (ESPN) - it's official now.

Not posted on any sites yet. Marsha is done...

 

[bermudasteel]

Brady announces retirement, ends 'thrilling ride'

Tom Brady has retired from the NFL, the future Hall of Fame quarterback officially announced Tuesday on Instagram.

www.espn.com

 

[Steeltime]

Brady announces retirement, ends 'thrilling ride'

Tom Brady has retired from the NFL, the future Hall of Fame quarterback officially announced Tuesday on Instagram.

www.espn.com

Slovan Stupid is gripping his Tammy doll and sobbing none-too-quietly, "Why? WHY?!?? Tammy, WHY? Your 'dietician' says you can go another 15 years!!"

 

[bermudasteel]

Slovan Stupid is gripping his Tammy doll and sobbing none-too-quietly, "Why? WHY?!?? Tammy, WHY? Your 'dietician' says you can go another 15 years!!"

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[TDX27]

So, it's now official and in 5 years we will see if Ben gets ****** out of being a 1st ballot HOFer. I still say it's at least 95% he will, which completely sucks.

 

[bermudasteel]

So, it's now official and in 5 years we will see if Ben gets ****** out of being a 1st ballot HOFer. I still say it's at least 95% he will, which completely sucks.

I think they both get in at the same time. Of course, Marsha will be booed but she will upstage Ben that last time...again.

 

[Djfan]

I think they both get in at the same time. Of course, Marsha will be booed but she will upstage Ben that last time...again.

I would be willing to be kicked out because I start the chant of "Cheater, cheater, . . . .", but I would have to be paid to go, so it ain't happening.

 

[Confluence]

Yet the other teams let it happen with a slap on the wrist. So who’s the misunderstood?


This is the 31 other teams fault for laying over and letting it happen. A sternly heated talk sure showed them.

Look where it is now. It’s in the official books/stats. Cannot erase it. In our minds they are cheaters. But realistically it’s in the books as them winning.

We cannot click our heels and wish it away. Labeling them cheaters makes us feel better. That’s it.

MTC, with all due respect, you have an overly simplistic view of how this reality happened. Its too bad that the black and white are not so easily definable when competing rationales exist.

Just because people do not openly dis-agree with some stated historical record of events, like many in different walks of life, does not mean that they happened that way. History is written by the winners, in a way that minimizes that which they did that was not moral. Society is replete with examples like this. Movies are made "based on truth" but with literary license.

In this simplified NFL example, it is clearly more beneficial to the owners of the 32 franchises to sweep the misdeeds away and look forward, because the monetary value of their business is intrinsically linked to the belief of the paying fan that the games are "fair". Fair is a four letter f word that gets liberally defined in ways to justify almost anything.

If 3 or 13 or 23 NFL owners had stood up and said "Roger, the Cheatriots need to be drummed out of the league", please explain how that is likely to have evolved, and what the economic damage would be to them. Much like the kept spouse with a cheating mate, it is hard to argue that the status quo is not better for the family than blowing everything up. Where did the "DeflateGate" ball deflators go? They got paid to shut up, with non-disparagement and non-disclosures too strong to counter, and they quietly went away. So did the "former friends" of Stabbin' RayRay.

The principles of business, and the duty of care owed to investors in franchises is very different than the perceived duty of "fairness" that we would like to believe that the NFL or other businesses hold themselves to.

So it is possible that "everyone" is better off with the NFL having not properly punished the Cheatriots for their crimes against other teams.

Would Steeler fans prefer the NFL be a shadow of its former self, with the death penalty against the Cheatriots, or to acknowledge "yeah we got ******" but with the NFL continuing to dominate American sports economics? Steeler fans paying attention over the past 20 years have made their personal decision, even if the topic is newly interesting to you.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Cheating over and over and over again to the point you are continually effecting outcomes irks some. Some it doesn't.

As long as the money keeps rolling in the "irk" is less apparent. DON"T let that cloud the fact that they (cheatriots) continuously cheated.



Salute the nation

 

[Djfan]

MTC, with all due respect, you have an overly simplistic view of how this reality happened. Its too bad that the black and white are not so easily definable when competing rationales exist.

Just because people do not openly dis-agree with some stated historical record of events, like many in different walks of life, does not mean that they happened that way. History is written by the winners, in a way that minimizes that which they did that was not moral. Society is replete with examples like this. Movies are made "based on truth" but with literary license.

In this simplified NFL example, it is clearly more beneficial to the owners of the 32 franchises to sweep the misdeeds away and look forward, because the monetary value of their business is intrinsically linked to the belief of the paying fan that the games are "fair". Fair is a four letter f word that gets liberally defined in ways to justify almost anything.

If 3 or 13 or 23 NFL owners had stood up and said "Roger, the Cheatriots need to be drummed out of the league", please explain how that is likely to have evolved, and what the economic damage would be to them. Much like the kept spouse with a cheating mate, it is hard to argue that the status quo is not better for the family than blowing everything up. Where did the "DeflateGate" ball deflators go? They got paid to shut up, with non-disparagement and non-disclosures too strong to counter, and they quietly went away. So did the "former friends" of Stabbin' RayRay.

The principles of business, and the duty of care owed to investors in franchises is very different than the perceived duty of "fairness" that we would like to believe that the NFL or other businesses hold themselves to.

So it is possible that "everyone" is better off with the NFL having not properly punished the Cheatriots for their crimes against other teams.

Would Steeler fans prefer the NFL be a shadow of its former self, with the death penalty against the Cheatriots, or to acknowledge "yeah we got ******" but with the NFL continuing to dominate American sports economics? Steeler fans paying attention over the past 20 years have made their personal decision, even if the topic is newly interesting to you.

Good points, but there is the reality that many fans felt that we jumped the river from a sports league to the WWE. That has to be a financial consideration by them. It is impossible to say "this decision cost us XX dollars", but it has to have hurt them to a degree, even though their income is improving still.