Cam Heyward wants a new deal

[SteelerInLebanon]

I didn't say Cowher won a Super Bowl without Ben, but he made 4 AFCCG's and a Super Bowl without Ben, Tomlin can't even be competitive, and everyone's excuse is well he doesn't have a QB, that doesn't excuse him for not being competitive.
2017 they had one of the best offenses in football, the defense allowed Blake Bortles to score 35 on them, yes I subtracted 10 points from that because of the offense. Missing Shazier Who they really never replaced until now hopefully. Plus for whatever reason that franchise always plays us tough.

Over the last 7 games in 2020 the defense allowed 26.5 points per game, so they were exhausted half way through the season? The offense that year was 12th in points scored, KC in 2023 was 15th in points and won the Super Bowl. We were missing Edmunds, Dupree, Spillane, Gilbert and Bush for all or most of that time frame. They may not all be great players, but they were our starters.

2021 the highest paid defense was bad all year, 24th in yards allowed, 21st in points, the offense was actually better. Bush Never recovered from the injury the prior year, Tuitt missed most of the year and Alualu was on IR the whole year after the first part of the first game. Without a decent MLB and missing two starters on the DL it was down year for sure for the defense.

SO yes, the defense had issues, but it wasn't mainly scheme it was lack of bodies. We can also look at who was missing in the other losses or playing on half health. It hasn't been pretty. KC may have been 15th but they still had Mahomes who pulled their *** out of the fire repeatedly, proving my point it takes a HOF QB most years to win the Super Bowl and absolutely takes one to consistently be there and win it. You can't name one team who had a dynasty without a HoF QB. There are a few teams that have caught lightning in a bottle and won with a Flacco or Williams or Dilfer, once.

 

[stillwright]

SO yes, the defense had issues, but it wasn't mainly scheme it was lack of bodies. We can also look at who was missing in the other losses or playing on half health. It hasn't been pretty. KC may have been 15th but they still had Mahomes who pulled their *** out of the fire repeatedly, proving my point it takes a HOF QB most years to win the Super Bowl and absolutely takes one to consistently be there and win it. You can't name one team who had a dynasty without a HoF QB. There are a few teams that have caught lightning in a bottle and won with a Flacco or Williams or Dilfer, once.

This is the year I have been told. A A Ron is "lightning ina bottle". I hope so. Even with A A Ron .....we need Tomlin to move on from his schemes of the past on both sides of the ball. We have had talented players....if the HC doesn't put them in position to succeed......failure happens often. We have seen it of late unfortunately.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

This is the year I have been told. A A Ron is "lightning ina bottle". I hope so. Even with A A Ron .....we need Tomlin to move on from his schemes of the past on both sides of the ball. We have had talented players....if the HC doesn't put them in position to succeed......failure happens often. We have seen it of late unfortunately.

All I can say is there is a chance.

 

[SojournerSteel]

This is the year I have been told. A A Ron is "lightning ina bottle". I hope so. Even with A A Ron .....we need Tomlin to move on from his schemes of the past on both sides of the ball. We have had talented players....if the HC doesn't put them in position to succeed......failure happens often. We have seen it of late unfortunately.

Seems to be the key to the season: Can Rodgers smarten Tomlin up?

 

[Drink IRON City]

Did Cam get the new Deal ?

Smaller note: Did the BOZ get a new deal ?



Salute the nation

 

[Confluence]

Did Cam get the new Deal ?

Smaller note: Did the BOZ get a new deal ?



Salute the nation

Maybe they both didn't really want to TC stuff, and because they are old, they used the money thing as a tactic?

 

[bigben]

I think that is all wildly overblown. I love Cam and what he does for the team. Best run defense splits in the league last year when he was on the field and worst when he was off it. I don't blame the defense for the payoff issues as much as others when the offense totally lays an egg and tries to rely on the defense to be superhuman after it carried their ***** into the playoffs giving everything they had to just get there. They have had to face some pretty damn good QBs based on their low seeds or the offense has turned the ball over 4 times early.

You can have whatever opinion you want. The facts are real.

2012 Broncos 447 yd 3 TD
2015 Ravens 356 yd 3 TD
2016 Broncos 324 1 TD
2017 Patriots 431 4TD
2018 Jaguars 378 4TD
2021 Browns 390 5TD
2022 Cheifs 478 5TD
2024 Bills 425 5TD
2025 Ravens 474 4TD

Last 2 playoff loses Heyward's defense got ran over for 299 and 179 yards

100% falls on the defense and coaches.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

You can have whatever opinion you want. The facts are real.

2012 Broncos 447 yd 3 TD
2015 Ravens 356 yd 3 TD
2016 Broncos 324 1 TD
2017 Patriots 431 4TD
2018 Jaguars 378 4TD
2021 Browns 390 5TD
2022 Cheifs 478 5TD
2024 Bills 425 5TD
2025 Ravens 474 4TD

Last 2 playoff loses Heyward's defense got ran over for 299 and 179 yards

100% falls on the defense and coaches.

None of that changes a damn thing I said. The defense got them to the games and had nothing left in most cases. If the offense doesn't **** the bed the defense may have been in better shape.

The fact remains in the regular season last year when Cam was on the field, they were best run defense in the league and about the worst when he wasn't. You can talk playoffs all you want but Cam has proven his value.

 

[jitter77]

You can have whatever opinion you want. The facts are real.

2012 Broncos 447 yd 3 TD
2015 Ravens 356 yd 3 TD
2016 Broncos 324 1 TD
2017 Patriots 431 4TD
2018 Jaguars 378 4TD
2021 Browns 390 5TD
2022 Cheifs 478 5TD
2024 Bills 425 5TD
2025 Ravens 474 4TD

Last 2 playoff loses Heyward's defense got ran over for 299 and 179 yards

100% falls on the defense and coaches.

Last year the defensive gameplan was awful. You had guys going after Henry whether he was getting the ball or not and leaving wide open areas elsewhere. Our last 3 losses were to 3 of the best QBs in the league and we played them scared. I can not blame the players for terrible schemes.