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Can a defensive player win the Heisman Again? Coolie Pimps Ed Oliver

CoolieMan said:
Oliver was not benched. He didn't play due to his knee acting up. He was upset on the sideline because he wanted to have the shot at a conference title which is now out of reach.

Your opinion just doesn't ******* matter and neither does the only website that matches your opinion
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http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=25356159

That’s no crying in baseball! It’s the second week in a row Ed was upset.

Water football does their own work. And they get feedback from scouts. Expect other websites to follow suit at a later date.

You’ll see.
 
the kid was out there wanting to play...unlike bosa who packed it up and went home

we will see how he measures up come the combine and then see how it goes
 
CoolieMan said:
the kid was out there wanting to play...unlike bosa who packed it up and went home

we will see how he measures up come the combine and then see how it goes
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Was he recovering from a surgery? I think not. Two separate cases. We shall see if Oliver shuts it down or plays in a bowl game.


Oliver had a problem with team rules the game before, and the game on Friday night he was crying. His maturity or lack thereof all be something he has to be ready to answer during the interview process.


I do not think the combine will help Oliver. He's shorter than listed, about 275-285 lbs, which is very light for a DT these days, and I think has shorter arms. He'll do well in the shuttle and cone drill.


Also, your ignorance is showing. Walter Football is perhaps the best draft site on the web. They offer details, and input from scouts, Collie. This isn't a website that just types in a name! Read what " they, the scouts and teams, " said.


As for Oliver, I think picking Houston was a smart move for him. He would not do as well in the SEC, and his flaws, I think would be more visible.
 
Coach. We know your stance. You hang on it like a 5 year old on the monkey bars. Just shut your pie hole until the draft. Let the chips fal where they may.

When you speak of ignorance, just look in the mirror. It’s blissful to you.

BTW genius, your all knowing mag latest draft prediction (11/22) has Oliver going at #9. You would still lose the bet if it was to happen today.


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Ike Kelly said:
Coach. We know your stance. You hang on it like a 5 year old on the monkey bars. Just shut your pie hole until the draft. Let the chips fal where they may.

When you speak of ignorance, just look in the mirror. It’s blissful to you.

BTW genius, your all knowing mag latest draft prediction (11/22) has Oliver going at #9. You would still lose the bet if it was to happen today.


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Ike,

No I won’t curb posing habits for the likes of you. I will continue to post football comments. And you’ll continue to read them because that’s who you are.

If you have a any IQ at all you’ll see the stuff I posted in the past is starting to get noticed.

Check again on the mock draft. I saw outside the top ten. Things are trending my way.


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Curb posing habits? That’s very fitting from a self absorbed narcissist. Learn to use spell check for once idiot.

And I’ll keep posting back at you showing how asinine your viewpoints are. Laughable and infantile.

Here’s the the link to Walters site your moron.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2019.php

Now go watch yourself in the mirror.


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I know the bet was OLIVER gets drafted top 10. What are consequences both ways................. In top 10 or not top 10..........

Just want a reminder at this point of thread.

Thanks



Salute the nation
 
Coach said:
Ike,

No I won’t curb posing habits for the likes of you. I will continue to post football comments. And you’ll continue to read them because that’s who you are.

If you have a any IQ at all you’ll see the stuff I posted in the past is starting to get noticed.

Check again on the mock draft. I saw outside the top ten. Things are trending my way.


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:lol:
 
Drink IRON City said:
I know the bet was OLIVER gets drafted top 10. What are consequences both ways................. In top 10 or not top 10..........

Just want a reminder at this point of thread.

Thanks



Salute the nation
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Top 10 pick coach goes on vacation..
 
I assume Coolie takes a vacation????




Salute the nation
 
Ike Kelly said:
Curb posing habits? That’s very fitting from a self absorbed narcissist. Learn to use spell check for once idiot.

And I’ll keep posting back at you showing how asinine your viewpoints are. Laughable and infantile.

Here’s the the link to Walters site your moron.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2019.php

Now go watch yourself in the mirror.


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I don't see 9th on their latest. GLUP. If you want a side bet with me, we can arrange that.


Keep in mind fool, many players not currently mocked might declare their intentions for the draft later. You'll see, or maybe you won't. Either way, I had to laugh, you telling someone else to shut up. Deal with my posting, dear Ike.


Face it, Oliver was a former #1 overall mock pick in the in the opinions of small minds. Film if killing him, and his crybaby attitude is not helping.



http://walterfootball.com/draft2019charlie.php
 
coach the **** you posted came from somewhere else...at the time I found the site you borrowed your opinion from (it was before you had ever watched him play so it is obvious the words were not your own)

I hope all this thinking isn't hurting you. we know you are not used to it.

I am willing to bet the kid interviews well at the combine. Like a lot of young men he can get emotional and the few tears he showed yesterday won't hurt him at all. I think he will play the Bowl game if he is at 100%. His athletic ability should shine at the combine. His footwork and quickness are exceptional for a defensive lineman.

As has been said, the combine will show his talents and your gibberish between now and then is just noise....
 
Coach said:
Ike,

No I won’t curb posing habits for the likes of you. I will continue to post football comments. And you’ll continue to read them because that’s who you are.

If you have a any IQ at all you’ll see the stuff I posted in the past is starting to get noticed.

Check again on the mock draft. I saw outside the top ten. Things are trending my way.


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I'm seeing a trend of you making some accurate observations and I enjoy reading them. Keep up the quality work.
 
mr peeples said:
I'm seeing a trend of you making some accurate observations and I enjoy reading them. Keep up the quality work.
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Yes, I have film review on Oliver here, judging him snap after snap. Coolie knows it. The work is my own

They hype around Oliver was too much.

Reality is setting in.


He's a short and light DT who isn't very scheme flexible.


1 ) He can't play NT in the NFL


2 ) He's too short for 4-3 DE and not quick enough around the edge.


3 ) He's not big enough for a 3-4 DE.


Let's be clear, he's a 3 technique type of DT, who is an average the best pass rusher. He's clearly not a wide nine guy.


I'm calling it now, his arms are shorter than desired too, which means professional offensive lineman, not the guys he beat for sacks at Navy or Eastern Carolina will keep him at bay, or overpower him as they have oh, about 40-50 pounds on him.


College centers or guards ( most of whom would not start in a power five conference ) can push Oliver backward, clearing out holes. I have pointed this out on film. What can better college players do?!


Oliver has just 3 sacks for the year. 5.5 being his best mark for a season. Ho-hum. Oliver gets lots of chances to rush the QB with 4 men on the line. He's just not very good at it.


Oh sure, an undersized defensive lineman who isn't a pass rusher is what every team wants high in the draft. NOT. Oliver has the hustle and shed to his game, but I wonder how much of that production is due that competition he plays. We'll see in time.
 
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Cope said:
All I know is if a DT runs a 4.4 - 4.6/ 40, he's going top 10.
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No one ever needs a DT to cover 40 yards; the position is not for track sprinters. Tell me when a DT makes a tackle 40 yards down field. I think his knee and attitude are more of the story here.
 
Coach said:
I don't see 9th on their latest. GLUP. If you want a side bet with me, we can arrange that.


Keep in mind fool, many players not currently mocked might declare their intentions for the draft later. You'll see, or maybe you won't. Either way, I had to laugh, you telling someone else to shut up. Deal with my posting, dear Ike.


Face it, Oliver was a former #1 overall mock pick in the in the opinions of small minds. Film if killing him, and his crybaby attitude is not helping.



http://walterfootball.com/draft2019charlie.php
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Well it’s easy to see that intelligence waived bye bye to you early in life. Your link dillrod shows Oliver at 10, on a one day later mock. You still would lose the bet if it was today.

It would be tragic if you weren’t so ignorant.


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Coach said:
Yes, I have film review on Oliver here, judging him snap after snap. Coolie knows it. The work is my own

They hype around Oliver was too much.

Reality is setting in.


He's a short and light DT who isn't very scheme flexible.


1 ) He can't play NT in the NFL


2 ) He's too short for 4-3 DE and not quick enough around the edge.


3 ) He's not big enough for a 3-4 DE.


Let's be clear, he's a 3 technique type of DT, who is an average the best pass rusher. He's clearly not a wide nine guy.


I'm calling it now, his arms are shorter than desired too, which means professional offensive lineman, not the guys he beat for sacks at Navy or Eastern Carolina will keep him at bay, or overpower him as they have oh, about 40-50 pounds on him.


College centers or guards ( most of whom would not start in a power five conference ) can push Oliver backward, clearing out holes. I have pointed this out on film. What can better college players do?!


Oliver has just 3 sacks for the year. 5.5 being his best mark for a season. Ho-hum. Oliver gets lots of chances to rush the QB with 4 men on the line. He's just not very good at it.


Oh sure, an undersized defensive lineman who isn't a pass rusher is what every team wants high in the draft. NOT. Oliver has the hustle and shed to his game, but I wonder how much of that production is due that competition he plays. We'll see in time.
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You have film review! Snap for snap! Hahahahaha!

Tell you what genius, show where your work “snap for snap” is published. Then, only then credit will be given. Problem is you have no credit. You have no published evaluations, nor noted assessment reviews. Only opinion based upon other reviewers observations. Of that opinion, which is totally biased of any objectivity.

Your inferiority complex to TMC owning you on..every...single..argument drives you to your self serving characteristic.

Why don’t you give Mr. Peeples a rundown of the Polamalu prediction you had. That’s something documented you definitely can share. Such a tool.
 
mr peeples said:
No one ever needs a DT to cover 40 yards; the position is not for track sprinters. Tell me when a DT makes a tackle 40 yards down field. I think his knee and attitude are more of the story here.
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Oliver has done it several times
 
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