Christmas Day Game Thread

[Fiji Mariner]

Unfortunately, we have been relying on “fool’s errands” the last several years.

Having to back into the playoffs consistently, keeps us in that near 20th draft pick and average at best.

****, it wasn’t that long ago we had a 3 (21/2) game lead in our division, now we have to hope for things to happen…………….


Salute the nation

And the Rats will do what an actual contender does and dispatch the Stains knowing they control their own destiny

The Stillers may even find a way to Bungle away the season finale vs the damn Bungles to ensure the season ends with a 5 game losing streak

Dear Mr. Rooney, Mike cost you a lot of money by his normal late season collapse all but ensuring no home game. How does it feel to pay a man many millions who is costing you more money taboot? A home playoff game was only about an 80-90% probability unless you know Mikes ability to collapse in Dec-Jan. The natives are getting restless and the pitchfork mob is building.

Signed,
A once proud now exiled Lions fan

 

[JMM]

 

[MTC]

So Kamari Lassiter was the only one to get points for Houston yesterday.


Go Dawgs!

 

[Drink IRON City]

Pretty sure Tomlin isn't the GM..and you know as well as everybody else that Tomlin was limited to hiring all his OCs and DCs internally until Arthur Smith was hired, because the Rooneys don't like to pay the assistants. I'm not saying it's a fact but if my back is against a wall I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Steelers organization has the smallest payroll among assistant coaches in the league.

Do we need to be reminded just how tight fisted this organization is??

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/09/13/pittsburgh-steelers-practice-amenities#:~:text=The%20Steelers%20ranked%20No.,)%2C%20training%20room%20(No.

By the way, Creed was drafted in 2021 ....how would he have made Ben better when 2021 was literally Ben's last season of play? An old, noodle arm Ben that was a statue in the pocket at that?? See this how I know yall just get on here and say any damn thing. You dont even check your own comments to see if it makes sense. Y'all just be talking out the side of yall mouth throwing objects against walls and hoping it stick.

It should be noted that drafting that guard to play center wasn't a boo hooed pick at the time. Let's not try and play the blame game in hindsight. Essentially a lot of picks/choices dont quite work out. That can be said about every team. If we look at who the Steelers took prior to Creed we have Najee, which was the bigger problem at 1, and Pat Freiermuth who was taken in the same rd as Creed. Najee definitely hasn't lived up to 1 status and I'm not sure if many would say Pat has lived up to 2, but those were some pressing positions of need also in that draft and I'm not sure there was anyone I can remember that objected to either of those picks.

OH, by the way, that Center named Creed would have helped slow the leakage. That drafted center couldn’t stop the middle invasion of the Germans who bombed Pearl Harbor. Ben’s release had to increase to the fasted in the NFL for the season. That center was as much a reason for that as anything else on the OL.

That “noodle arm” happened to have the most comeback wins in the nfl that season……. When BEN went rouge, he went with plays that worked with the shittiestssss OL in the game.

Oh and if you think Reid would have taken Green over Creed, it’s just not happening, after all that is the arguement you are against. ACTING LIKE your superior knowledge of some draft picks just don’t work out wasn’t even in my post you quoted, that post was differences of Tomlin vs Reid.

EDIT: If you don’t think Tom lin’s hand was the greatest factor involved in bringing in and keeping both O’Canada and Austin,……………. Well, let’s just say we have a difference in opinion.

Keep up the good work of the many informative post(s), and Happy day after the Santa visit.



Salute the nation

 

[Drink IRON City]

And the Rats will do what an actual contender does and dispatch the Stains knowing they control their own destiny

The Stillers may even find a way to Bungle away the season finale vs the damn Bungles to ensure the season ends with a 5 game losing streak

Dear Mr. Rooney, Mike cost you a lot of money by his normal late season collapse all but ensuring no home game. How does it feel to pay a man many millions who is costing you more money taboot? A home playoff game was only about an 80-90% probability unless you know Mikes ability to collapse in Dec-Jan. The natives are getting restless and the pitchfork mob is building.

Signed,
A once proud now exiled Lions fan

Bring that dang “pitchfork” to my Peyote fields………………. I’ll be there right with yaz.!


Salute the nation

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

What does that have to do with people crashing out 5 minutes into the game moron? Are you and your sleeper agent dyckhead (SAD) buddies prognosticators now? Yall know the beginning from the end now?

I know when this team with this limited offense spots the Chiefs 13-0, it’s more than likely over, which it was

Is Tomlin the central problem of this team? You know the answer, your pathetic agenda prevents you from admitting it

 

[NoKap#7]

Oh and if you think Reid would have taken Green over Creed, it’s just not happening, after all that is the arguement you are against. ACTING LIKE your superior knowledge of some draft picks just don’t work out wasn’t even in my post you quoted, that post was differences of Tomlin vs Reid.

What are you even talking about?? Who even suggested or implied Reid would take Green over Creed? Such a fckn dumbass. Creed was a 2nd Rd pick, not a third fktard so who Reid would have picked goes w/o saying plus Creed was a natural center. You dont think if Creed would have been sitting there by the time they drafted Green that the Steelers wouldn't have took him??? You're so in your feelings that you're just making up **** now?? Try not to go ****** full retard on us dipshit.

 

[NoKap#7]

I know when this team with this limited offense spots the Chiefs 13-0, it’s more than likely over, which it was

Is Tomlin the central problem of this team? You know the answer, your pathetic agenda prevents you from admitting it

If you're saying he's the problem in that he can't get the coordinators right.... then sure ...he is the problem.

 

[Drink IRON City]

What are you even talking about?? Who even suggested or implied Reid would take Green over Creed? Such a fckn dumbass. Creed was a 2nd Rd pick, not a third fktard so who Reid would have picked goes w/o saying plus Creed was a natural center. You dont think if Creed would have been sitting there by the time they drafted Green that the Steelers wouldn't have took him??? You're so in your feelings that you're just making up **** now?? Try not to go ****** full retard on us dipshit.

Less-on



Salute the nation

 

[NoKap#7]

OH, by the way, that Center named Creed would have helped slow the leakage. That drafted center couldn’t stop the middle invasion of the Germans who bombed Pearl Harbor. Ben’s release had to increase to the fasted in the NFL for the season. That center was as much a reason for that as anything else on the OL.

That “noodle arm” happened to have the most comeback wins in the nfl that season……. When BEN went rouge, he went with plays that worked with the shittiestssss OL in the game.

1) your argument makes zero sense just based upon the fact that Creed was picked prior to Green. Your argument is also irrelevant knowing full well the Steelers needed someone they hoped could manage the center position and also knowing all the best center players had been taken. They took Green in the 3rd Rd, not the 1st or 2nd so the Steelers clearly knew he was limited and raw. Since you're such a genius tell us who the Steelers could have selected to play the center position other then Green?

2) You totally disregard the fact that if Creed had still been available the Steelers would have taken him and you totally disregard the fact that the Steelers felt they had a more pressing need at the RB and TE position. You also disregard the fact that the overwhelming majority of Steeler fans seemed to have no issue with either 3 picks when they were made that night so your statement that Reid made better choices that night is unfounded 1) one because that's just how circumstances presented itself based upon need and draft order 2) neither are the GM of their teams. You do realize GMs have a role to play also right and their primary job is selecting players...not the coach.

Last, but not least let's not try and make it seem like Ben had anything left that season. Ben had checked out at least two years before and was trying to collect paychecks at that point. He couldn't throw the ball down the field consistently and defenses knew it...thus they dialed up the pressure and stacked the box.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Your whole fckn argument is irrelevant knowing full well the Steelers needed someone they hoped could manage the center position and also knowing all the best center players had been taken. Since you're such a genius tell us who the Steelers could have drafted in that position other then Green?

You totally disregard the fact that if Creed had still been available the Steelers would have taken him and you totally disregard the fact that the Steelers felt they had a more pressing need at the RB and TE position. You also disregard the fact that the overwhelming majority of Steeler fans seemed to have no issue with either 3 picks when they were made that night so your statement that Reid made better choices that night is unfounded 1) one because that's just how circumstances presented itself based upon need and draft order 2) neither are the GM of their teams. You do realize GMs have a role to play also right and their primary job is selecting players...not the coach.

Last, but not least let's not try and make it seem like Ben had anything left that season. Ben had checked out at least two years before and was trying to collect paychecks at that point. He couldn't throw the ball down the field consistently and defenses knew it...thus thru dialed up the pressure and stacked the box.

I don't think this was the case at all. Colbert wanted to improve the ground game with a top running back and he wanted to make one last run with Ben. Early in his career, Tomlin talked about weapons being able to help with the pass rush. Connect all the dots and the Colbert/Tomlin thought the RB/TE approach to get one last run was better than investing in the offensive line. It was the wrong decision and Creed Humphrey was a very popular choice here. A good number of fans liked Najee the player, but not a RB in the first round.

 

[NoKap#7]

I don't think this was the case at all. Colbert wanted to improve the ground game with a top running back and he wanted to make one last run with Ben. Early in his career, Tomlin talked about weapons being able to help with the pass rush. Connect all the dots and the Colbert/Tomlin thought the RB/TE approach to get one last run was better than investing in the offensive line. It was the wrong decision and Creed Humphrey was a very popular choice here. A good number of fans liked Najee the player, but not a RB in the first round.

1)First of all anybody who thinks the Steelers had a chance to make a serious SB run with an old washed up Big Ben is absolutely delusional. Ben should have never been given another contract after the 2018-2019 season.

2) the egregious pick was not Green in the 3rd rd of 2021. The egregious pick was Kenny Pickett in the first rd 2022 over Tyler Linderbaum. The Steelers shouldn't have even been looking Kenny's way until possibly the third. He in no way shape or form was a 1st rd pick, or a 2nd and somehow the Steelers got duped into drafting him at least 2-3 rds too early.

3) if we did a poll of all Steelers fans of which pick over Creed or Linderbaum was the worse ...overwhelmingly if not 100% consensus would say it was Pickett being taken over Linderbaum, not Harris over Creed...or even Freiermuth over Creed. If I'm not mistaken KC was still the GM for both those drafts. Why is Tomlin squarely taking the heat and not KC??

 

[warriors42]

If you're saying he's the problem in that he can't get the coordinators right.... then sure ...he is the problem.

He is the problem because he is a average coach that is full of ****. I wish we could just trade head coaches with Detroit or Buffalo or the vikings. no players not other coaches just the head coach, I think people would actually see what a ****** coach shades really is.

The thing is that this problem goes deeper than Tomlin, it wouldn't matter what ****** coach we had or what color he was. The Rooney's hang their hat on not firing head coaches just like Tomlin hangs his hat on non losing seasons.

I personally wish they would just sell this team to someone that wants to win...

 

[SteelerFan448]

1)First of all anybody who thinks the Steelers had a chance to make a serious SB run with an old washed up Big Ben is absolutely delusional. Ben should have never been given another contract after the 2018-2019 season.

2) the egregious pick was not Green in the 3rd rd of 2021. The egregious pick was Kenny Pickett in the first rd 2022 over Tyler Linderbaum. The Steelers shouldn't have even been looking Kenny's way until possibly the third. He in no way shape or form was a 1st rd pick, or a 2nd and somehow the Steelers got duped into drafting him at least 2-3 rds too early.

1. Well, that was obviously the thought process of the GM and why we are still watching the Steelers build depth through the draft. Colbert's drafts were just bad at the end.
2. I get the Kenny Pickett selection. You could argue that Trent McDuffie would've been the best pick. They needed help at cornerback (and still do).

 

[NoKap#7]

1. Well, that was obviously the thought process of the GM and why we are still watching the Steelers build depth through the draft. Colbert's drafts were just bad at the end.
2. I get the Kenny Pickett selection. You could argue that Trent McDuffie would've been the best pick. They needed help at cornerback (and still do).

You get the Kenny Pickett selection as in you understand why they drafted him in the first??

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

We all know your insufferable excuse making and blind defense of Tomlin no matter what…

Here’s some questions for you after you get done kissing Tomlins *** and blaming 2 straight losses on bad bounces:

1. After watching this team play the Eagles and Chiefs in the regular season: how many times out of 10 would the Steelers beat each of them?

2. If the Steelers lose by more than 10 points in the playoffs completing their 8th straight season without a playoff win, will you agree Tomlin should be let go?

I think both games were winnable games, and we let adversity get us down. I do fault Tomlin for relying too much on splash plays. I don't blindly defend him, I simply get sick of the constant and repetitive attacks. He needs to learn to take what the defense will give us. That said I think we win 4 out of 10. Both teams have better rosters currently than we do but the Eagles is better top to bottom and the Chiefs have Mahomes who apparently sold his soul to the devil. We had chances and didn't make the plays. We also didn't get the bounces we got early in the season. That was obvious but not the reason we lost. The reason we lost is currently relying on those bounces due to some missing cohesiveness on defense.

No, I don't think he should be fired at all to this point. Hate me for that if you want, I really don't care. I value our stability and dedication to our head coaches. For better or worse.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

If you're saying he's the problem in that he can't get the coordinators right.... then sure ...he is the problem.

Yep, hiring and managing the right coordinators is definitely Tomlin’s responsibility. How many years does he get from you to fix it before someone else should be the head coach?

I’d say 8 years of no playoff wins is plenty

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

I think both games were winnable games, and we let adversity get us down. I do fault Tomlin for relying too much on splash plays. I don't blindly defend him, I simply get sick of the constant and repetitive attacks. He needs to learn to take what the defense will give us. That said I think we win 4 out of 10. Both teams have better rosters currently than we do but the Eagles is better top to bottom and the Chiefs have Mahomes who apparently sold his soul to the devil. We had chances and didn't make the plays. We also didn't get the bounces we got early in the season. That was obvious but not the reason we lost. The reason we lost is currently relying on those bounces due to some missing cohesiveness on defense.

No, I don't think he should be fired at all to this point. Hate me for that if you want, I really don't care. I value our stability and dedication to our head coaches. For better or worse.

If you simply state your position instead of slinging insults in the game day thread when the obvious is pointed out I wouldn’t hate on you. The obvious by the way is the head coach is responsible for the results at the end of the day.

I strongly disagree they’d win 4 of 10 against the eagles or chiefs. Those games were not close by the 3rd quarter.

Clearly you accept mediocrity and irrelevance over winning. It’s been 7 years since we won a playoff game, that’s a pattern, not bad luck. If being loyal to the head coach and the stability/mediocrity he provides that’s your right.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

If you simply state your position instead of slinging insults in the game day thread when the obvious is pointed out I wouldn’t hate on you. The obvious by the way is the head coach is responsible for the results at the end of the day.

I strongly disagree they’d win 4 of 10 against the eagles or chiefs. Those games were not close by the 3rd quarter.

Clearly you accept mediocrity and irrelevance over winning. It’s been 7 years since we won a playoff game, that’s a pattern, not bad luck. If being loyal to the head coach and the stability/mediocrity he provides that’s your right.

Are you joking? You are telling someone not sling insults?

 

[NoKap#7]

Yep, hiring and managing the right coordinators is definitely Tomlin’s responsibility. How many years does he get from you to fix it before someone else should be the head coach?

I’d say 8 years of no playoff wins is plenty

Did you miss the part where it was clear he was only being allowed to hire internally??

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

If you simply state your position instead of slinging insults in the game day thread when the obvious is pointed out I wouldn’t hate on you. The obvious by the way is the head coach is responsible for the results at the end of the day.

I strongly disagree they’d win 4 of 10 against the eagles or chiefs. Those games were not close by the 3rd quarter.

Clearly you accept mediocrity and irrelevance over winning. It’s been 7 years since we won a playoff game, that’s a pattern, not bad luck. If being loyal to the head coach and the stability/mediocrity he provides that’s your right.

and yes I get emotional during the games and sometimes lash out at people who are also lashing out. If you notice outside of gameday posts, I am usually quite calm and optimistic, politics aside. I just get violently optimistic during games. I refuse to get depressingly negative like some. It isn't healthy. I would rather annoy you with optimism.

 

[BLITZ]

I think the perfect solution would be to send Tomlin to Carolina for 2 1st round pics. everyone would be happy. except Coach Lloyd

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Did you miss the part where it was clear he was only being allowed to hire internally??

You’ve got to be kidding me, Tomlin can hire whoever he wants: case in point Canada and Smith

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

I think the perfect solution would be to send Tomlin to Carolina for 2 1st round pics. everyone would be happy. except Coach Lloyd

Sounds great to me

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Are you joking? You are telling someone not sling insults?

Show me where I was the first to insult you or anyone else, I’ll wait

I don’t start the insults, but I’m not going take crap from you or anyone else and am ready to fire back