Covid Vaccine

[Tim Steelersfan]

You can only relate to anecdotal evidence and personal opinions and experiences. That’s not science, Tim.

Post 14,486, this page.

Comment on it. Please. Or avoid it like you're avoiding @Steeltime

“Just wait”, right?

We are past "just wait."

We are now at the point of "I told you so."

Hit the back button. There are dozens of pages of it. Endless vaccine injuries, deaths, and the most vaccinated nations in the world are now suffering the highest excess mortality.

Ye Branch Covidians choose not to see.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Perhaps you should explain to us what "science" is. Or at least your interpretation of it is.

It's science that confirms his confirmation bias.

Sometimes, it's the NEJM. Other times, the NEJM is fake news. He'll cite from sources one day, condemn the same source again the next, based on what they offer up.

In this very thread, he's condemned the CDC while touting their opinions. He's condemned the NEJM, while on another page praising them.

Ideology be strong.

 

[Troglodyte]

No son, I've gone from being skeptical to be able to see. Not a blind sheep.

The vaccines suck. Australia's admitting it. They and Israel are perfect examples and their data shows it. Now their policy makers are walking it back. As you often do.

Really? So why is Australia urging people to get vaccinated as stated in the article YOU LITERALLY JUST POSTED? Israel is urging people to get vaccinated as well. REALITY.

COVID-19 Vaccine

Vaccine components of four companies have been approved for use in Israel for protection from coronavirus, by Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca. All of these vaccines were approved by the FDA (the American Food and Drug Administration), having been found to be effective and safe for use.

corona.health.gov.il

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Perhaps you should explain to us what "science" is. Or at least your interpretation of it is.

Don't expect an answer to a direct question, but it's safe to assume science does not include full clinical trials. Such a bother.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Really? So why is Australia urging people to get vaccinated as stated in the article YOU LITERALLY JUST POSTED? Israel is urging people to get vaccinated as well. REALITY.

COVID-19 Vaccine

Vaccine components of four companies have been approved for use in Israel for protection from coronavirus, by Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca. All of these vaccines were approved by the FDA (the American Food and Drug Administration), having been found to be effective and safe for use.

corona.health.gov.il

Follow the money perhaps, because nothing else makes sense, other than for those extremely vulnerable, and even then, I'm not completely convinced.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Really? So why is Australia urging people to get vaccinated as stated in the article YOU LITERALLY JUST POSTED? Israel is urging people to get vaccinated as well. REALITY.

COVID-19 Vaccine

Vaccine components of four companies have been approved for use in Israel for protection from coronavirus, by Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca. All of these vaccines were approved by the FDA (the American Food and Drug Administration), having been found to be effective and safe for use.

corona.health.gov.il

Son...SMDH

Here's ANOTHER article covering the same issue. Perhaps these words you won't twist?

Aussies not recommended to get third COVID-19 booster jab

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) is not recommending a third booster jab as COVID-19 case numbers jump significantly across the country.

www.skynews.com.au

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) is not recommending a third booster jab as COVID-19 case numbers jump significantly across the country.

Health Minister Mark Butler confirmed on Tuesday he had accepted the the group's latest advice on vaccines amid an uptick of infections.

Now, switching gears back to my prior post last evening...the AGAI is NOT recommending a third booster.....while these same organizations and media sites are stoking bullshit fears talking about a 5th wave of growing Covid cases (scary scary scary). Their current 7 day average of cases is 10,863. Their highest 7 day average this year was 104,000 cases a day.

As your feeble, ****-brain POTUS Joe Xiden said - the pandemic is over.

Now go answer @Steeltime 's question. We wait.

 

[Troglodyte]

Son...SMDH

Here's ANOTHER article covering the same issue. Perhaps these words you won't twist?

Aussies not recommended to get third COVID-19 booster jab

The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) is not recommending a third booster jab as COVID-19 case numbers jump significantly across the country.

www.skynews.com.au

Now, switching gears back to my prior post last evening...the AGAI is NOT recommending a third booster.....while these same organizations and media sites are stoking bullshit fears talking about a 5th wave of growing Covid cases (scary scary scary). Their current 7 day average of cases is 10,863. Their highest 7 day average this year was 104,000 cases a day.

As your feeble, ****-brain POTUS Joe Xiden said - the pandemic is over.

Now go answer @Steeltime 's question. We wait.

Switching gears? You mean deflecting. Australia and Israel are recommending that people get Covid vaccinations. FACT. REALITY. Timmy from West Virginny be deranged and delusional.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Switching gears? You mean deflecting. Australia and Israel are recommending that people get Covid vaccinations. FACT. REALITY. Timmy from West Virginny be deranged and delusional.

Son, I posted an article accurately stating that Australia is currently recommending against getting a 5th shot, or the 3rd booster. In fact, two articles.

That is the original point, and remains the point. It is the topic. As we've said, you couldn't catch the point if it was launched at your head via ICBM.

The deflection began when you shifted to "bullshit, Australia is still recommending vaccines!" You changed the topic when you went down that rabbit hole.

"Australia is not recommending a 3rd booster" and "Australia encourages people to get vaccinated" are two different points.

Every country has and is still recommending "vaccination" as a general policy. We all understand the politics behind it.

A sub point I've driven for several posts has been that Governments and the media are still, to this day, trying to scare the world's populace with Covid fear porn. There is no pandemic wave in Australia. We all doubt there is going to be a fifth wave. It will be a speed bump.

Comically - if a 5th wave does indeed happen - it serves as testament to how piss poor the vaccines have been given Australia's 97.8% vaccination rate.

 

[Steeltime]

Tim, don't waste your time arguing with Floggy. Dude is not wearing a mask and I can pull up posts from July, 2020 from Tibilo and Floggy advising that whoever does not wear a mask is a murderer, so why the hell would we care what Floggy says? Floggy the murderer, I mean, not Floggy Maskman.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

More fear porn. The media is ramping it all up again.

Los Angeles Officials “Strongly Recommending” Masks Again As Variants BQ1 & BQ1.1 Near Dominance And Case Rates Soar

With Covid daily cases up 52% since the beginning of November, Los Angeles County today returned to “strongly recommending” that people wear masks in all indoor public settings. The rec…

deadline.com

With Covid daily cases up 52% since the beginning of November, Los Angeles County today returned to “strongly recommending” that people wear masks in all indoor public settings.

Sounds so scary right? Cases up 52% since the beginning of November. Mask up! Run, hide!

Nov 1: LA County was seeing 818 cases a day.
Now: LA County is seeing 1,932 cases a day.

Yep, you bet, a 52% increase indeed. Except when you look at all of 2022 and in January it was 41,682 cases a day.



And we know, masks don't work, so.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Tim, don't waste your time arguing with Floggy.

It's too easy and so worth the price of admission.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Yeah, this is really helpful. The Left asks for Covid Amnesty while throwing **** like this around...still.

Children, at virtually 0 risk from Covid shouldn't come in contact with unvaccinated people (who carry/transmit Covid at statistically the same rates as the vaxed). Brilliant.

Watch: NBC News Advises Parents To Keep Kids Away From "Unvaccinated Individuals" | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

As winter looms, NBC News has some top tips for parents who are concerned about their children catching respiratory viruses… keep them away from the dirty unvaccinated people.



In a recent segment, an infographic advised that those who want to “protect” their children should wash hands, stay home, get vaccines and “avoid physical interaction with unvaccinated individuals.”

There is no actual evidence that unvaccinated individuals are more at risk of transmitting COVID or that the vaccines prevent the spread of the virus, but never mind that inconvenient distraction.

The anchors then asked medical correspondent Dr. John Torres why more children are now so susceptible to RSV (respiratory syncytial virus), to which he responded “we don’t exactly know why.”

That is also not true, given that the CDC recently issued a report highlighting how a record number of children are now being hospitalised with common colds due to weakened immune systems.

Commenting on the findings, Dr Scott Roberts, a medical director at Yale University stated that lockdowns impacted the ability of children to build up immunity to common illnesses.

“There are two implications to this,” the doctor said, explaining “First, the gap gives time for the viruses to mutate even further to cause more severe disease.”
“And second, whatever immunity was built up to those viruses’ it will have waned making the immune response now much less potent,” Roberts added.

The doctor also noted that children, including his own son are now getting “constant infections.”

The CDC data is consistent with research by scientists at Yale who warned that it is not normal to see children with combinations of seven common viruses, including adenovirus, rhinovirus, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), human metapneumovirus, influenza and parainfluenza, as well as COVID-19.

But whatever, keeping your kids safely locked away at home and away from the unvaccinated is the smart move.

 

[Troglodyte]

Son, I posted an article accurately stating that Australia is currently recommending against getting a 5th shot, or the 3rd booster. In fact, two articles.

That is the original point, and remains the point. It is the topic. As we've said, you couldn't catch the point if it was launched at your head via ICBM.

The deflection began when you shifted to "bullshit, Australia is still recommending vaccines!" You changed the topic when you went down that rabbit hole.

"Australia is not recommending a 3rd booster" and "Australia encourages people to get vaccinated" are two different points.

Every country has and is still recommending "vaccination" as a general policy. We all understand the politics behind it.

A sub point I've driven for several posts has been that Governments and the media are still, to this day, trying to scare the world's populace with Covid fear porn. There is no pandemic wave in Australia. We all doubt there is going to be a fifth wave. It will be a speed bump.

Comically - if a 5th wave does indeed happen - it serves as testament to how piss poor the vaccines have been given Australia's 97.8% vaccination rate.

Nope, your contention was that Australia and Israel were “coming around”, “walking back”, “admitting the vaccines suck”. That’s nonsense. They continue to urge vaccination.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

I think the only possible answer at this point is that Floggy is extremely heavily invested in Phizer and can’t afford for the vaccine to fail. Otherwise he is just that dumb.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Nope, your contention was that Australia and Israel were “coming around”, “walking back”, “admitting the vaccines suck”. That’s nonsense. They continue to urge vaccination.

Once again son, you twist words and/or have zero ability to read and comprehend.

My quote: "The vaccines suck. Australia's admitting it. They and Israel are perfect examples and their data shows it. Now their policy makers are walking it back. As you often do."

Broken down: "The vaccines suck. Australia's admitting it..." By telling their citizens not to get the 5th shot (3rd booster) they are confessing that doing so is pointless (i.e., they don't work). I've posted several articles showing that the 4th and 5th shots are essentially worthless against the virus now. Scientific, proven.

"They and Israel are perfect examples and their data shows it...." The data from Israel and Australia, two of the highest vaccinated nations in the world, show the vaccine's ineffectiveness. 98.7% vaxed, and Australia is warning of a 5th wave? Israel, while so heavily vaccinated, saw their highest cases and deaths...during peak vaccination. Vaccines, if they work...well, work. The prosecution rests.

"Now their policy makers are walking it back. As you often do..." Australia was recommending all shots....before they weren't.

Ya can't make it up.

 

[Troglodyte]

Once again son, you twist words and/or have zero ability to read and comprehend.

My quote: "The vaccines suck. Australia's admitting it. They and Israel are perfect examples and their data shows it. Now their policy makers are walking it back. As you often do."

Broken down: "The vaccines suck. Australia's admitting it..." By telling their citizens not to get the 5th shot (3rd booster) they are confessing that doing so is pointless (i.e., they don't work). I've posted several articles showing that the 4th and 5th shots are essentially worthless against the virus now. Scientific, proven.

"They and Israel are perfect examples and their data shows it...." The data from Israel and Australia, two of the highest vaccinated nations in the world, show the vaccine's ineffectiveness. 98.7% vaxed, and Australia is warning of a 5th wave? Israel, while so heavily vaccinated, saw their highest cases and deaths...during peak vaccination. Vaccines, if they work...well, work. The prosecution rests.

"Now their policy makers are walking it back. As you often do..." Australia was recommending all shots....before they weren't.

Ya can't make it up.

Speaking of comprehension, read the Reuters article and let’s see if you can comprehend what Australia’s decision was based on. Hint: look for the word “EVIDENCE” like they use in SCIENCE.

Australia recommends against fifth vaccine dose as fresh COVID wave builds

Australian health authorities have recommended against getting a fifth COVID-19 vaccine shot, even as they urged those eligible to sign up for their remaining booster doses as the country's latest COVID wave grows rapidly.

www.reuters.com

 

[Steeltime]

Speaking of comprehension, read the Reuters article and let’s see if you can comprehend what Australia’s decision was based on. Hint: look for the word “EVIDENCE” like they use in SCIENCE.

Australia recommends against fifth vaccine dose as fresh COVID wave builds

Australian health authorities have recommended against getting a fifth COVID-19 vaccine shot, even as they urged those eligible to sign up for their remaining booster doses as the country's latest COVID wave grows rapidly.

www.reuters.com

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Speaking of comprehension, read the Reuters article and let’s see if you can comprehend what Australia’s decision was based on. Hint: look for the word “EVIDENCE” like they use in SCIENCE.

Australia recommends against fifth vaccine dose as fresh COVID wave builds

Australian health authorities have recommended against getting a fifth COVID-19 vaccine shot, even as they urged those eligible to sign up for their remaining booster doses as the country's latest COVID wave grows rapidly.

www.reuters.com

I've already addressed this Floggy, numerous posts ago. You continue to dance. Just completely sidestepped my last response, realizing you got it all wrong...once...again.

Why don't you circle back to Steeltime's posted questions? You've dodged those for pages now.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

This is super encouraging news for the vaccines. More mehdikul dowtkurs.

Alsunaid et al.: "COVID-19 Vaccine Triggered Rejection in Lung Transplant Recipients: A Case Series"; In this series, 3 patients developed new and significant respiratory compromise after their 2nd

vaccine dose consistent with antibody mediated rejection (AMR). To our knowledge, this is the first published case series of vaccine induced rejection in LTR; 3 cases triggered by the COVID-19 vaccine

palexander.substack.com

Anti-severe acute respiratory syndrome corona virus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) vaccination is recommended by AST, ISHLT, and CDC in all transplant recipients. Lung transplant recipients (LTR) are at a higher risk of developing severe symptoms due to higher immunosuppression (IS) and baseline compromised graft function.

Limited antibody response to messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines has been reported in LTR, with the majority mounting a response after the 2nd dose. In this series, 3 patients developed new and significant respiratory compromise after their 2nd vaccine dose consistent with antibody mediated rejection (AMR). To our knowledge, this is the first published case series of vaccine induced rejection in LTR.’

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From the study:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053249822013705

Purpose​

Anti-severe acute respiratory syndrome corona virus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) vaccination is recommended by AST, ISHLT, and CDC in all transplant recipients. Lung transplant recipients (LTR) are at a higher risk of developing severe symptoms due to higher immunosuppression (IS) and baseline compromised graft function. Limited antibody response to messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines has been reported in LTR, with the majority mounting a response after the 2nd dose. In this series, 3 patients developed new and significant respiratory compromise after their 2nd vaccine dose consistent with antibody mediated rejection (AMR). To our knowledge, this is the first published case series of vaccine induced rejection in LTR.

Results​

All patients were female, ages 50-70 years old, between 6 months and 2 years post-transplant. No previous rejection episodes. All were on standard IS as per institution protocols. Two were hospitalized with hypoxic respiratory failure within 2 weeks of their 2nd vaccine dose. The 3rd was seen at clinic for milder similar symptoms, later progressing and requiring supplemental oxygen (O2) and hospitalization. Imaging showed new lung infiltrates, infectious work up was negative. Biopsies did not show any cellular rejection. All developed new DSAs and received treatment for AMR with plasmapheresis, IVIg, and Rituximab. Two recovered their lung function and are off supplemental O2, the 3rd did not and is re-listed for transplant.

 

[Iron95]

Switching gears? You mean deflecting. Australia and Israel are recommending that people get Covid vaccinations. FACT. REALITY. Timmy from West Virginny be deranged and delusional.

Do you have problem with people from West Virginia? Your wanabe elitist is showing again. Or is it racism?

 

[Booted]

Australia and Israel are recommending that people get Covid vaccinations.

I'm sure they are.

 

[SteelChip]

 

[Troglodyte]

Do you have problem with people from West Virginia? Your wanabe elitist is showing again. Or is it racism?

Just because they’re all related doesn’t mean West Virginians have their own race.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Do you have problem with people from West Virginia? Your wanabe elitist is showing again. Or is it racism?

LOL. It's all the twit has to work with given he can't debate on the merits.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Just because they’re all related doesn’t mean West Virginians have their own race.

Little advice. Stick to the football forum. You can't do politics. And you sure as hell can't do humor.

You suck at this...too.

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We are all awaiting your reply to @Steeltime ChickenFlog.