Covid Vaccine

[Troglodyte]

You should change your name to "waffle", it's all you do on this board.

No. All three of the questions NOBODY can answer are regarding support for vaccination. How is that waffling?

 

[Superman]

Nobody can provide ONE health system advising against the vaccine. Nobody can explain why every major medical association supports the vaccine. Nobody can explain why health insurers cover the vaccine. Win? It a ******* shutout!

Floggy cant provide one phone number for the medical facility ze works at and a competent doktur to verify they've got thousands and thousands lined up outside zer doors to get the clotted shot?

 

[fedderone]

Ideology? No, it’s reality.

If SIL has no reason to lie then he should share the name of the physician and the health system and then I can verify that they are OK with one of their patients claiming on social media that they are not recommending the Covid vaccine and consider it detrimental. Right? RIGHT???

HIPAA be damned!
Since you're in the sharing mood, please provide the full names and contact information for your physicians, mid-levles, labs, medical facilities, and the hospitals you visit so we may do likewise on your behalf.

 

[fedderone]

Aaaannnddd… further comment:

He already shared the SUPPOSED comments unsolicited. If true, it’s not their private position, it’s what they recommend to the public. I provided five health systems giving vaccine guidance online. I suppose SIL’s provider offers vaccine guidance on the down low? It’s not on their website? Why?

Face it. He ****** up and lied and now you’re all scrambling trying to cover for him.

You do understand that not all PCPs/specialists are part of a large healthcare system, right?
Some physicians still operate independently so they can practice medicine as they see fit and not be subject to "toeing the company line".
And no, these aren't just physicians in Mayberry with Andy and Opie.

 

[fedderone]

FFS.

I know better that most health systems are non-profit.

I know better that doctors are motivated to avoid malpractice suits regarding standards of care.

I know better that they understand Stark laws.

I don't think you understand what Stark Law is with this statement.
LOL
But that is par for the course for you in this thread.

 

[Troglodyte]

Floggy cant provide one phone number for the medical facility ze works at and a competent doktur to verify they've got thousands and thousands lined up outside zer doors to get the clotted shot?

I provided five, I could provide hundreds more.

 

[Troglodyte]

HIPAA be damned!
Since you're in the sharing mood, please provide the full names and contact information for your physicians, mid-levles, labs, medical facilities, and the hospitals you visit so we may do likewise on your behalf.

A patient can share their health information with anyone they choose. I provided five health systems and thier contact information.

 

[Troglodyte]

I don't think you understand what Stark Law is with this statement.
LOL
But that is par for the course for you in this thread.

Enlighten me.

 

[fedderone]

Shocking we never heard of these two stories. Two....two young boys who's faces were used to promote ERRYONE getting the vaccines died suddenly. What are the odds?

8-year-old COVID vaccine poster child dies from heart attack
Another vaccine poster child has tragically passed away.

An eight-year-old boy from Israel has tragically died of a heart attack, three years after appearing in a government-sponsored video that promoted the COVID vaccine for children.

Yonatan Moshe Erlichman suffering cardiac arrest while taking a bath. The child was taken to Hadassah Hospital in Mount Scopus in serious condition but died a few days later on September 28.

Yonatan Erlichman was the grandson of Dr. Mati Erlichman, a respected doctor in Beit El.

Three years ago, at the age of five, Yonatan appeared in a video produced by the Mateh Binyamin Regional Council, as reported by Frontline News. The video was part of the government-run program called “Shushki in the Land of Binyamin,” which aimed to entertain and educate children.


https://thecountersignal.com/8-year-old-covid-vaccine-poster-child-dies-from-heart-attack/
In the video, Shushki, a friendly puppet “child,” prompts real people to respond with educational answers.

Yonatan Erlichman’s role in the COVID vaccine promotion made him a symbol for the importance of vaccination, with the film emphasizing that children have no choice when it comes to getting the shots.

The video came out before the COVID vaccine was available, but prompted citizens to get the shot when it was ready.

Second in two years​

Last year, Argentina’s poster boy for childhood vaccination, Santino Godoy Blanco, 4, tragically died after falling ill and reporting a plethora of symptoms.



He’s pictured on the Argentinian government’s website under a vaccine campaign material guideline.

“Vaccines protect us,” reads the slogan beside Blanco, who’s holding up a fist.

Dude, stop.
Don't you know it's perfectly reasonable for an 8 year old to suffer and die from a heart attack?
It happens ALL the time and shouldn't be considered abnormal at all.
(Please note the sarcasm as I'm laying it on as thick as possible).

 

[fedderone]

So I was attempting to overstate the number of people being vaccinated by understating the daily number as “thousands” instead of “tens of thousands”. How the ****, Tim?

Another question while you try to find a health system advising against vaccination. Why do health insurers cover the vaccine? It’s an expense to them.

Are you familiar with the ACA/Obamacare?
I am. You may want to check out how/why preventative medicine has been legally mandated to be treated by commercial insurance carriers since it passed ( you have to pass the law in order to see what's in it ).
So, you know, legally obligated would be the answer to this riddle, you dolt.

 

[fedderone]

Enlighten me.

I've / We've been trying for over 700 pages.
At this point, "it's like playing cards with my brother's kids."

 

[Troglodyte]

Are you familiar with the ACA/Obamacare?
I am. You may want to check out how/why preventative medicine has been legally mandated to be treated by commercial insurance carriers since it passed ( you have to pass the law in order to see what's in it ).
So, you know, legally obligated would be the answer to this riddle, you dolt.

So the vaccines ARE preventative? Imagine that!

 

[Superman]

I provided five, I could provide hundreds more.

you've done no such thing.

 

[Superman]

So the vaccines ARE preventative? Imagine that!

for some people, yes
for all people, no

 

[fedderone]

So the vaccines ARE preventative? Imagine that!

Yes, vaccines that actually work at preventing you from acquiring an illness? Absolutely.
The flu shot is "maybe" if you contract the one specific variation that they think is the most rampant for the season. It doesn't prevent you from getting ALL of the variations that exist for the flu.
But you understand even if you take the flu shot, it does NOT immunize you from getting the flu for the rest of your life, right?
It doesn't work like a tetanus vaccine, polio vaccine, MMR vaccine, etc.
You know, these that VACCINATE you from EVER getting the corresponding illness.
This is the same as the COVID shot.

You're arguing how the CDC/FDA/Government classify the COVID shot and how commercial insurance carriers are forced to comply.
It has nothing to do with efficacy.
I know the ol' sounding horn in 2021 was "If you take the shot, you can't get nor give COVID", but that has since been proven false. By all the alphabet government agencies.
So what purpose does it actually serve getting a shot that doesn't actually IMMUNIZE you?
So the effects may or may not be as bad to you or the person/people you will give it to.......?

 

[fedderone]

Enlighten me.

Is the internet search browser of your choosing broken?
You obviously attempted to inject a healthcare related law/statute into the conversation to sound cool and educated, but really didn't support your post.

 

[Troglodyte]

you've done no such thing.

I refer you to post #18,072.

 

[Troglodyte]

Is the internet search browser of your choosing broken?
You obviously attempted to inject a healthcare related law/statute into the conversation to sound cool and educated, but really didn't support your post.

No, if you’re following along Zona suggested doctors are motivated by kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies.

 

[Badcat]

No. All three of the questions NOBODY can answer are regarding support for vaccination. How is that waffling?

You make a bold statement such as "The CDC has not been sued", then someone provides proof of the CDC being sued, then you change the narrative to "well, anyone can be sued". This one simple example is one of many in this lengthy thread of you waffling on topics.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

You should change your name to "waffle", it's all you do on this board.

FlogWaffle!!! Bam!!

Meanwhile, Elvira has a question for FlogWaffle.

 

[Troglodyte]

Yes, vaccines that actually work at preventing you from acquiring an illness? Absolutely.
The flu shot is "maybe" if you contract the one specific variation that they think is the most rampant for the season. It doesn't prevent you from getting ALL of the variations that exist for the flu.
But you understand even if you take the flu shot, it does NOT immunize you from getting the flu for the rest of your life, right?
It doesn't work like a tetanus vaccine, polio vaccine, MMR vaccine, etc.
You know, these that VACCINATE you from EVER getting the corresponding illness.
This is the same as the COVID shot.

You're arguing how the CDC/FDA/Government classify the COVID shot and how commercial insurance carriers are forced to comply.
It has nothing to do with efficacy.
I know the ol' sounding horn in 2021 was "If you take the shot, you can't get nor give COVID", but that has since been proven false. By all the alphabet government agencies.
So what purpose does it actually serve getting a shot that doesn't actually IMMUNIZE you?
So the effects may or may not be as bad to you or the person/people you will give it to.......?

No.

https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

 

[Troglodyte]

FlogWaffle!!! Bam!!

Meanwhile, Elvira has a question for FlogWaffle.

Uh, I think that’s Morticia.

How stupid do the unvaccinated feel when they get hospitalized with Covid?

 

[Superman]

Supposedly? OK, you are one of the truly delusional ones. Step outside your misinformation bubble.

https://www.upmc.com/coronavirus/covid-vaccine

https://www.stclair.org/

https://www.ahn.org/coronavirus/vaccine

https://www.excelahealth.org/patients-visitors/coronavirus-covid-19-information/

https://www.pennstatehealth.org/coronavirus/vaccine

Flog, post you referenced

point me to the esteemed medical dockturr you work with/for and a phone number.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

How stupid do the unvaccinated feel when they get hospitalized with Covid?

INFINITELY less stupid than the vaccinated hospitalized sheep do.

 

[Steeltime]

Dipshit “up until this point” now health insurers are paying for the shots. WHY?

Gee, Dr. Flogstain, too bad the entire universe cannot access a source of information - I'll call it the "interwebz" - to investigate such questions. If ONLY we all could do so I would no longer have to correct your repeated, endless litany of misstatements and moronic claims. For example, if we could search the fictional interwebz by asking, "Hey, does Federal law mandate health insurers cover the Vaxshotz?" We would learn, oh I don't know, something like this:

COVID-19 Vaccination. For a nationwide vaccination campaign, the federal government has purchased, and is making available to providers at no cost, all COVID-19 vaccines and certain related supplies. Given this federal purchase, applicable plans still must cover providers’ vaccine administration fees without consumer cost sharing. This is related to a CARES Act requirement for most plans to cover recommended COVID-19 vaccines without consumer cost sharing. Most plans also must cover, without cost sharing, other COVID-19 preventive services that may be recommended, as specified by the CARES Act.

Answering Dipshit's Questions About Why Insurers Pay for Vaxshotz

So you claim the Vaxshotz cost insurers money, I show that is demonstrably false since until a few weeks ago, ALL vaxshotz were bought and paid for by the government and currently insurers pay for vaxshotz because they are required to do so under Federal law.

Time for you to declare yourself the winner of the debate and go get your 5th booster and your manbun tightened.