Covid Vaccine

[Tim Steelersfan]

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?
Fa, fa, fa, fa, fa, fa, fa, far better
Run, run, run, run, run, run, run away

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Are the Steelers really that bad you find Troglodyte more entertaining?

What I invest in being a Steelers fan is substantially more than the cheap membership fees here at SN.

Dr. Flogstain is the best entertainment per dollar. How's that?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

The Covid vaccine guidance is on the website. I’m not claiming anything different. What’s so hard to understand about the difference?

For the twentieth time, provide one health system advising against vaccination. ONE. You can’t, nobody is cooperating with your game of make believe.

For the 937th time, no one here has made a single claim about health care systems.

We have shared personal care provider experience.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Who’s crazy?

 

[Confluence]

The one known for shunning science. ******* BEAUTIFUL!

So Captain Health System,

In spite of all the best efforts of the government and pharma/health "experts", who's nuts you slobber over, the backward Amish had a very much better health experience thru Covid than the "English". Why?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

So Captain Health System,

In spite of all the best efforts of the government and pharma/health "experts", who's nuts you slobber over, the backward Amish had a very much better health experience thru Covid than the "English". Why?

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

For the 937th time, no one here has made a single claim about health care systems.

We have shared personal care provider experience.

The little Commie doesn’t believe in anyone being allowed to have a personal healthcare experience. They must submit to the will of the politburo and all health records will be owned by the State.

Opinions all provided
The future pre-decided

Conform or be cast out.

 

[Troglodyte]

So Captain Health System,

In spite of all the best efforts of the government and pharma/health "experts", who's nuts you slobber over, the backward Amish had a very much better health experience thru Covid than the "English". Why?

Reality:

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-amish-idUSL2N2NZ1TY

 

[Confluence]

Reality:

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-amish-idUSL2N2NZ1TY

Dipshit,

That is 2 and a half years old, and completely misses that almost zero Amish died from Covid or Covid shots. "Reality" my ***....when this was "published", folks all over the world were fearful of death from Covid, and yet none of these folks died of Covid, a fact clearly avoided by this "article" from some factcheckers.

Why was the experience of these people far superior to any other identifiable group?

 

[Troglodyte]

Dipshit,

That is 2 and a half years old, and completely misses that almost zero Amish died from Covid or Covid shots. "Reality" my ***....when this was "published", folks all over the world were fearful of death from Covid, and yet none of these folks died of Covid, a fact clearly avoided by this "article" from some factcheckers.

Why was the experience of these people far superior to any other identifiable group?

What “experience”? What “fact”? The ones you claim without a source? You’re so caught up in your game of make believe that facts no longer matter.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

What “experience”? What “fact”? The ones you claim without a source? You’re so caught up in your game of make believe that facts no longer matter.

And you're so caught up in your game of propaganda, you'll share 2 1/2 year old data to try to back up your baseless position.

You're a sheep.

 

[Confluence]

What “experience”? What “fact”? The ones you claim without a source? You’re so caught up in your game of make believe that facts no longer matter.

So you have no responses from the past two plus years, continue to belittle EVERYONE in this thread, and lack the discernment to understand that the sludge you are eating up is not good for you.

At least you have a bright future as one of the loaders/helpers in the transportation industry.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

And you're so caught up in your game of propaganda, you'll share 2 1/2 year old data to try to back up your baseless position.

You're a sheep.

At this point that is a major insult to sheep.

 

[Superman]

What “experience”? What “fact”? The ones you claim without a source? You’re so caught up in your game of make believe that facts no longer matter.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230907/Amish-populated-counties-tend-to-have-lower-vaccination-rates-but-are-not-unvaccinated.aspx

Reviewed by Lily Ramsey, LLMSep 7 2023
This summer, viral misinformation claimed that the Amish did not vaccinate against COVID-19 and, as a result, had a death rate 90 times lower than the rest of the United States. Now, a Penn State study is the first to provide geographically broad and population-wide evidence that while the Amish-populated counties across the nation tend to have lower vaccination rates than other populations, they are not entirely unvaccinated.

The research was published recently in the journal Population Research and Policy Review.

The Amish are a distinctive Christian subculture that traces its roots to the 16th century Protestant Reformation. According to Cory Anderson, author on the study and postdoctoral fellow in Penn State's Population Research Institute, part of the Social Science Research Institute, medical documents typically don't include patients' religious beliefs, making it difficult to study the Amish and other religious groups from medical records.

Additionally, the researchers said, a low number of COVID-19 tests were taken in the Amish community during the pandemic, so assessing data on COVID-19 cases or deaths among this population is difficult.

The researchers conducted an analysis of county-level data in Amish-prevalent counties. As the counties only showed the vaccination rates of the entire population, analyzing Amish-prevalent counties gave the researchers an estimation of Amish vaccination rates.

"We examined over 350 counties spanning 10 Amish-populated states from February 2021 -; when the vaccines became available -; through October 2022 to determine COVID-19 vaccination rates and other social demographic data from a variety of sources including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, U.S. Religion Census, U.S. Census, American Community Survey, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Election Lab," said Shuai Zhou, postdoctoral associate in the Department of Global Development at Cornell University and former graduate student under co-author Guangqing Chi, professor of rural sociology and demography at Penn State.

They found that Amish populated counties had an approximately 1.6% lower COVID-19 vaccination rate than counties without significant Amish populations. Given that only three counties had an Amish population of more than 20%, this rate is notable, the researchers said. The results suggest that higher percentages of Amish in a county significantly decrease the county-level vaccination rate while controlling for other covariates expected to also predict lower vaccination rates, such as political ideology, rural/non-rural status, household income and evangelical Protestant affiliation.

Specifically, on average, while holding all other variables constant in the model, the researchers found that 10% more Amish population corresponded to 16% less in the monthly county-level COVID-19 vaccination rate. All though not explicitly noted in the paper, the researchers' calculations suggested that in October 2022, Amish-populated counties exhibited an average daily vaccination rate of .06%, compared to the national average rate of .08%.

"The results support our hypothesis that Amish affiliation independently predicts vaccine hesitancy," Anderson said. "This finding supports our hypothesis that Amish are under-vaccinated for COVID-19, although not at the rate some recent commentators have suggested."

Anderson, who is part of the Amish community, said he saw at the beginning of the pandemic the Amish were side-stepping many preventative measures and hypothesized COVID-19 vaccination rates would be lower than the rest of the population. However, widely circulated commentary that no Amish were vaccinated were unsubstantiated.

The findings underscore the failure of public health outreach efforts to convince the Amish to accept COVID-19 preventative measures and vaccines, according to Chi.

"Health service providers working with the Amish need to realize that it takes time to build a collaborative and trustful relationship with them, and humility goes a long way," Chi said.

According to Anderson, the Amish community is unrepresented in higher education, therefore scientific knowledge about these communities is coming out of institutions they are not a part of.

"This has repercussions on their response when scientific knowledge is translated into public health policy," Anderson said. "Academia should continue to invest in resources to collaborate with this population."

Learning more about this community is important, Anderson said, because the Amish population is growing, and as it grows, the Amish will migrate to new places throughout North America.

"Their impact will be felt on rural communities, where population density is low and public resources are slim," Anderson said.

With this study complete, Anderson and his team will continue to analyze data to discover deeper cultural changes during the pandemic.

"Challenging times have a way of bringing to the forefront cultural patterns that are buried deeply when life is routine," Anderson said. "Challenging times reveal what a community is made of and can shape the culture moving forward."

Support for this work was provided by the Population Research Institute, which is supported by an infrastructure grant from the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and Social Environments and Population Health training grant, and U.S. Department of Agriculture National Institute of Food and Agriculture Multistate Research Project. Further support was provided by a seed grant from the National Institute on Aging-supported Interdisciplinary Network on Rural Population Health and Aging.

 

[Confluence]

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230907/Amish-populated-counties-tend-to-have-lower-vaccination-rates-but-are-not-unvaccinated.aspx

Reviewed by Lily Ramsey, LLMSep 7 2023
This summer, viral misinformation claimed that the Amish did not vaccinate against COVID-19 and, as a result, had a death rate 90 times lower than the rest of the United States. Now, a Penn State study is the first to provide geographically broad and population-wide evidence that while the Amish-populated counties across the nation tend to have lower vaccination rates than other populations, they are not entirely unvaccinated.

The research was published recently in the journal Population Research and Policy Review.

The Amish are a distinctive Christian subculture that traces its roots to the 16th century Protestant Reformation. According to Cory Anderson, author on the study and postdoctoral fellow in Penn State's Population Research Institute, part of the Social Science Research Institute, medical documents typically don't include patients' religious beliefs, making it difficult to study the Amish and other religious groups from medical records.

Additionally, the researchers said, a low number of COVID-19 tests were taken in the Amish community during the pandemic, so assessing data on COVID-19 cases or deaths among this population is difficult.

The researchers conducted an analysis of county-level data in Amish-prevalent counties. As the counties only showed the vaccination rates of the entire population, analyzing Amish-prevalent counties gave the researchers an estimation of Amish vaccination rates.

"We examined over 350 counties spanning 10 Amish-populated states from February 2021 -; when the vaccines became available -; through October 2022 to determine COVID-19 vaccination rates and other social demographic data from a variety of sources including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, U.S. Religion Census, U.S. Census, American Community Survey, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Election Lab," said Shuai Zhou, postdoctoral associate in the Department of Global Development at Cornell University and former graduate student under co-author Guangqing Chi, professor of rural sociology and demography at Penn State.

They found that Amish populated counties had an approximately 1.6% lower COVID-19 vaccination rate than counties without significant Amish populations. Given that only three counties had an Amish population of more than 20%, this rate is notable, the researchers said. The results suggest that higher percentages of Amish in a county significantly decrease the county-level vaccination rate while controlling for other covariates expected to also predict lower vaccination rates, such as political ideology, rural/non-rural status, household income and evangelical Protestant affiliation.

Specifically, on average, while holding all other variables constant in the model, the researchers found that 10% more Amish population corresponded to 16% less in the monthly county-level COVID-19 vaccination rate. All though not explicitly noted in the paper, the researchers' calculations suggested that in October 2022, Amish-populated counties exhibited an average daily vaccination rate of .06%, compared to the national average rate of .08%.

"The results support our hypothesis that Amish affiliation independently predicts vaccine hesitancy," Anderson said. "This finding supports our hypothesis that Amish are under-vaccinated for COVID-19, although not at the rate some recent commentators have suggested."

Anderson, who is part of the Amish community, said he saw at the beginning of the pandemic the Amish were side-stepping many preventative measures and hypothesized COVID-19 vaccination rates would be lower than the rest of the population. However, widely circulated commentary that no Amish were vaccinated were unsubstantiated.

The findings underscore the failure of public health outreach efforts to convince the Amish to accept COVID-19 preventative measures and vaccines, according to Chi.

"Health service providers working with the Amish need to realize that it takes time to build a collaborative and trustful relationship with them, and humility goes a long way," Chi said.

According to Anderson, the Amish community is unrepresented in higher education, therefore scientific knowledge about these communities is coming out of institutions they are not a part of.

"This has repercussions on their response when scientific knowledge is translated into public health policy," Anderson said. "Academia should continue to invest in resources to collaborate with this population."

Learning more about this community is important, Anderson said, because the Amish population is growing, and as it grows, the Amish will migrate to new places throughout North America.

"Their impact will be felt on rural communities, where population density is low and public resources are slim," Anderson said.

With this study complete, Anderson and his team will continue to analyze data to discover deeper cultural changes during the pandemic.

"Challenging times have a way of bringing to the forefront cultural patterns that are buried deeply when life is routine," Anderson said. "Challenging times reveal what a community is made of and can shape the culture moving forward."

Support for this work was provided by the Population Research Institute, which is supported by an infrastructure grant from the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and Social Environments and Population Health training grant, and U.S. Department of Agriculture National Institute of Food and Agriculture Multistate Research Project. Further support was provided by a seed grant from the National Institute on Aging-supported Interdisciplinary Network on Rural Population Health and Aging.

Thanks.

How many Amish died from Covid?

 

[Troglodyte]

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230907/Amish-populated-counties-tend-to-have-lower-vaccination-rates-but-are-not-unvaccinated.aspx

Reviewed by Lily Ramsey, LLMSep 7 2023
This summer, viral misinformation claimed that the Amish did not vaccinate against COVID-19 and, as a result, had a death rate 90 times lower than the rest of the United States.

Why didn’t you bold the part about it being VIRAL MISINFORMATION?

Now, a Penn State study is the first to provide geographically broad and population-wide evidence that while the Amish-populated counties across the nation tend to have lower vaccination rates than other populations, they are not entirely unvaccinated.

The research was published recently in the journal Population Research and Policy Review.

The Amish are a distinctive Christian subculture that traces its roots to the 16th century Protestant Reformation. According to Cory Anderson, author on the study and postdoctoral fellow in Penn State's Population Research Institute, part of the Social Science Research Institute, medical documents typically don't include patients' religious beliefs, making it difficult to study the Amish and other religious groups from medical records.

Additionally, the researchers said, a low number of COVID-19 tests were taken in the Amish community during the pandemic, so assessing data on COVID-19 cases or deaths among this population is difficult.

The researchers conducted an analysis of county-level data in Amish-prevalent counties. As the counties only showed the vaccination rates of the entire population, analyzing Amish-prevalent counties gave the researchers an estimation of Amish vaccination rates.

"We examined over 350 counties spanning 10 Amish-populated states from February 2021 -; when the vaccines became available -; through October 2022 to determine COVID-19 vaccination rates and other social demographic data from a variety of sources including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, U.S. Religion Census, U.S. Census, American Community Survey, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Election Lab," said Shuai Zhou, postdoctoral associate in the Department of Global Development at Cornell University and former graduate student under co-author Guangqing Chi, professor of rural sociology and demography at Penn State.

They found that Amish populated counties had an approximately 1.6% lower COVID-19 vaccination rate than counties without significant Amish populations. Given that only three counties had an Amish population of more than 20%, this rate is notable, the researchers said. The results suggest that higher percentages of Amish in a county significantly decrease the county-level vaccination rate while controlling for other covariates expected to also predict lower vaccination rates, such as political ideology, rural/non-rural status, household income and evangelical Protestant affiliation.

Specifically, on average, while holding all other variables constant in the model, the researchers found that 10% more Amish population corresponded to 16% less in the monthly county-level COVID-19 vaccination rate. All though not explicitly noted in the paper, the researchers' calculations suggested that in October 2022, Amish-populated counties exhibited an average daily vaccination rate of .06%, compared to the national average rate of .08%.

"The results support our hypothesis that Amish affiliation independently predicts vaccine hesitancy," Anderson said. "This finding supports our hypothesis that Amish are under-vaccinated for COVID-19, although not at the rate some recent commentators have suggested."

Anderson, who is part of the Amish community, said he saw at the beginning of the pandemic the Amish were side-stepping many preventative measures and hypothesized COVID-19 vaccination rates would be lower than the rest of the population. However, widely circulated commentary that no Amish were vaccinated were unsubstantiated.

The findings underscore the failure of public health outreach efforts to convince the Amish to accept COVID-19 preventative measures and vaccines, according to Chi.

"Health service providers working with the Amish need to realize that it takes time to build a collaborative and trustful relationship with them, and humility goes a long way," Chi said.

According to Anderson, the Amish community is unrepresented in higher education, therefore scientific knowledge about these communities is coming out of institutions they are not a part of.

"This has repercussions on their response when scientific knowledge is translated into public health policy," Anderson said. "Academia should continue to invest in resources to collaborate with this population."

Learning more about this community is important, Anderson said, because the Amish population is growing, and as it grows, the Amish will migrate to new places throughout North America.

"Their impact will be felt on rural communities, where population density is low and public resources are slim," Anderson said.

With this study complete, Anderson and his team will continue to analyze data to discover deeper cultural changes during the pandemic.

"Challenging times have a way of bringing to the forefront cultural patterns that are buried deeply when life is routine," Anderson said. "Challenging times reveal what a community is made of and can shape the culture moving forward."

Support for this work was provided by the Population Research Institute, which is supported by an infrastructure grant from the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and Social Environments and Population Health training grant, and U.S. Department of Agriculture National Institute of Food and Agriculture Multistate Research Project. Further support was provided by a seed grant from the National Institute on Aging-supported Interdisciplinary Network on Rural Population Health and Aging.

 

[Steeltime]

Dr. Flogstain:

Still awaiting your name and name of your doctor. What do you have to hide??

 

[fedderone]

Why didn’t you bold the part about it being VIRAL MISINFORMATION?

You failed reading comprehension in school, and continue to fail every day on this board.

I know I've said this before to you somewhere about something......
I simply cannot fathom how obtuse you are.

 

[Superman]

What “experience”? What “fact”? The ones you claim without a source? You’re so caught up in your game of make believe that facts no longer matter.

https://ssri.psu.edu/news/amish-found-be-under-vaccinated-covid-19-not-unvaccinated

Why didn’t you bold the part about it being VIRAL MISINFORMATION?

because 5 paragraphs lower was this:

They found that Amish populated counties had an approximately 1.6% lower COVID-19 vaccination rate than counties without significant Amish populations. Given that only three counties had an Amish population of more than 20%, this rate is notable, the researchers said. The results suggest that higher percentages of Amish in a county significantly decrease the county-level vaccination rate while controlling for other covariates expected to also predict lower vaccination rates, such as political ideology, rural/non-rural status, household income and evangelical Protestant affiliation.

 

[Troglodyte]

https://ssri.psu.edu/news/amish-found-be-under-vaccinated-covid-19-not-unvaccinated

because 5 paragraphs lower was this:

They found that Amish populated counties had an approximately 1.6% lower COVID-19 vaccination rate than counties without significant Amish populations. Given that only three counties had an Amish population of more than 20%, this rate is notable, the researchers said. The results suggest that higher percentages of Amish in a county significantly decrease the county-level vaccination rate while controlling for other covariates expected to also predict lower vaccination rates, such as political ideology, rural/non-rural status, household income and evangelical Protestant affiliation.

So what? All that says is that Amish have lower vaccination rates. It doesn’t say Jack **** about morbidity or mortality rates. What the **** is your point?

 

[Troglodyte]

You failed reading comprehension in school, and continue to fail every day on this board.

I know I've said this before to you somewhere about something......
I simply cannot fathom how obtuse you are.

No, Stuporman failed to comprehend he was pointing out viral misinformation.

 

[Troglodyte]

https://ssri.psu.edu/news/amish-found-be-under-vaccinated-covid-19-not-unvaccinated

because 5 paragraphs lower was this:

They found that Amish populated counties had an approximately 1.6% lower COVID-19 vaccination rate than counties without significant Amish populations. Given that only three counties had an Amish population of more than 20%, this rate is notable, the researchers said. The results suggest that higher percentages of Amish in a county significantly decrease the county-level vaccination rate while controlling for other covariates expected to also predict lower vaccination rates, such as political ideology, rural/non-rural status, household income and evangelical Protestant affiliation.

I’m thinking you’re the first person to ever bold something because you were referring to something entirely different 5 paragraphs below.

In other words, you’re full of **** and you know it.

 

[Superman]

I’m thinking you’re the first person to ever bold something because you were referring to something entirely different 5 paragraphs below.

In other words, you’re full of **** and you know it.

the bolded part is what was being discussed prior to that.
if you'd have read further down the article, you'd have comprehended the intention of posting it. yes, it quite specifically did state "misinformation" - which ********* such as yourself - who kneel to the altar of the Vid - will end their reading exercise. However, the rest of us who see more words and sentences are able to clearly think and exercise critical thinking will read on to see what remains after "misinformation", since the article clearly didn't end there.

others, who are incapable of differentiating between say parmesan cheese and a rock of cocaine, will stop there and claim victory.

you, undoubtedly, fall into the latter category and not the former.

 

[Troglodyte]

the bolded part is what was being discussed prior to that.
if you'd have read further down the article, you'd have comprehended the intention of posting it. yes, it quite specifically did state "misinformation" - which ********* such as yourself - who kneel to the altar of the Vid - will end their reading exercise. However, the rest of us who see more words and sentences are able to clearly think and exercise critical thinking will read on to see what remains after "misinformation", since the article clearly didn't end there.

others, who are incapable of differentiating between say parmesan cheese and a rock of cocaine, will stop there and claim victory.

you, undoubtedly, fall into the latter category and not the former.

So you intentionally pointed out Confluence misinformation to show that while that is indeed bullshit, the Amish do have lower vaccination rates.

Not buying it. You know you ****** up.

 

[Superman]

dont give one **** what you buy or don't buy

if you'd have read or even bother to read the rest of the article...