Covid Vaccine

[Troglodyte]

An 8% increase in appendicitis cases related to the vax/shotz is significant.

It is vastly more significant for a massive population that never needed the vax/shotz (under age 50 with no serious co-morbidity). You know, like cops, firefighters, military, all of whom were FORCED to take the vax/shotz. For that population, we can safely say the vax/shotz had essentially zero benefit but a statistically significant chance of increasing the risk of appendicitis.

Wait. You think essential workers were forced to get vaccinated because their employers were concerned they would die? Your naivety know no bounds.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

No, the Danish study I provided suggested the vaccines aren’t linked to appendicitis. The study your provided suggests there’s a 92% chance it isn’t linked.

Yes, you have been arguing since December trying to indicate there is no link between Covid and appendicitis. None. Zero. Now you spin and dance away from your innumerable claims

"Seems like it’s two study with the same conclusion. Before and after Covid vaccination, an appendicitis is rare."
" So 1 in every 2,514 people got an appendicitis instead of 1 in every 2,736. Dear God, the danger!"
"If appendicitis isn’t rare, why the hell do you dismiss the idea that it very well could have been a not-so-remote COINCIDENCE that yours COINCIDED with your vaccination?"
"Rare? **** they didn’t even happened before the Covid vaccine started causing them. Right?"


Nothing but slanging horse **** around trying to prove the vaccines don't cause any (none, zero, nada) cases of appendicitis.

 

[Steeltime]

Wait. You think essential workers were forced to get vaccinated because their employers were concerned they would die? Your naivety know no bounds.

That may be the strangest comment you have made in this thread. If the powers-that-be in fact did NOT believe the Chinese flu presented a genuine threat of substantial harm, including death, why the hell would they ORDER firefighters, police, and armed forces to get the shot/vax??

Unless it was nothing more than a way to drive out those who refuse to blindly follow orders ... huh. Floggy the conspiracy theorist may be on to something. Blind sow/acorn kinda thing.

 

[Troglodyte]

That may be the strangest comment you have made in this thread. If the powers-that-be in fact did NOT believe the Chinese flu presented a genuine threat of substantial harm, including death, why the hell would they ORDER firefighters, police, and armed forces to get the shot/vax??

Unless it was nothing more than a way to drive out those who refuse to blindly follow orders ... huh. Floggy the conspiracy theorist may be on to something. Blind sow/acorn kinda thing.

The same reason their places of employment are open 24/7/365. The same reason they can be ORDERED to work in the event of an emergency.

 

[Confluence]

Well at least FDA likes the wonder-drug, widely and cheaply available Ivermectin again.

After directly, and wrongly, opposing the use of ivermectin for Covid, and then further ridiculing those that spoke/wrote in favor of this one treatment modality for the "novel" Covid, the eFfingDA is finally able to start correcting its blunder that cost lives.

Lets hope this is the start of a larger mea culpa phase of self-examination for what went well and what went poorly in the handling of Covid.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Lets hope this is the start of a larger mea culpa phase of self-examination for what went well and what went poorly in the handling of Covid.

 

[Steeltime]

The same reason their places of employment are open 24/7/365. The same reason they can be ORDERED to work in the event of an emergency.

Being ordered to take a needless shot has NOTHING to do with being ordered to do their job. Apples and oranges since even you ACKNOWLEDGE the order to take the vax/shotz was NOT due to the risk of any serious harm to the cops, troops or firefighters.

 

[Troglodyte]

Being ordered to take a needless shot has NOTHING to do with being ordered to do their job.

It absolutely does. When essential employees get sick and call off, it’s a problem. They can’t simply close up shop for a week, someone MUST work. A Covid outbreak in a hospital ICU, for example, could create a crisis.

 

[Steeltime]

It absolutely does. When essential employees get sick and call off, it’s a problem. They can’t simply close up shop for a week, someone MUST work. A Covid outbreak in a hospital ICU, for example, could create a crisis.

The powers-that-be, including the Desiccated Sniffer, knew that the vax/shotz did NOT prevent contracting Covid or spreading Covid. Therefore, your entire argument is based on a demonstrable lie since the same individuals would not be allowed to work while contagious.

Wait, Floggy propagating a known lie about the Chinese flu? Nooooooo ...

 

[Superman]

Wait. You think essential workers were forced to get vaccinated because their employers were concerned they would die? Your naivety know no bounds.

no - those employers were following federal requirements as passed by the Xiden Assministration.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-order-federal-workers-vaccinated-strategy-combat-delta/story?id=79905030

President Joe Biden announced on Thursday that federal government employees and contractors will now be required to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19, and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration will create a rule for private businesses with 100 or more employees to require their employees to be vaccinated or undergo weekly testing.

The requirements are part of Biden's sweeping new six-part strategy to combat the delta variant, which was rolled out in remarks from Biden at the White House.

A senior administration official estimated that this new OSHA requirement will cover about 80 million workers and businesses that do not comply with the agency's rule can face substantial fees -- up to $14,000. OSHA will require these employers to offer paid time off for vaccination.

"My job as president is to protect all Americans," Biden said before announcing the broad mandates.

now, since hindsight is key ...

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/11/04/amid-the-pandemic-a-rising-share-of-older-u-s-adults-are-now-retired/

The retirement uptick among older Americans is important because, until the pandemic arrived, adults ages 55 and older were the only working age population since 2000 to increase their labor force participation. Labor force participation for the entire working age population declined from an annual average of 67% in 2000 to 63% in 2019. This partly reflects a steep drop in participation among 16- to 24-year-olds (66% to 56%) as young people increasingly pursued schooling rather than employment. Participation has also been declining this century among the “prime working age” population, those ages 25 to 54. The overall decline in labor force participation would have been larger if adults 55 and older had not increased their labor force participation (from 32% in 2000 to 40% in 2019).

yeah, but those jobs were filled, right?

not exactly, but yes. you can argue that the seats were filled, but the lack of experience was significant. want proof? look at Boeing and their problems. YUGE number of issues since Covid. Those close/at retirement age very well could have said "**** it", and retired instead of taking the clot shot. Which then drastically pushed forward the advancement of their juniors into QA and QC, who lacked the relevant experience to be in those positions. But with Joe's mandate, the company was rather ******, were they not? So now we see what has transpired from forcing - not requesting or even simply suggesting - but forcing people to inject things into their body they were not comfortable with.

btw, how is jardiance working for your fatfucking dead-dog dragging 18,000 steps per hour golf courses walkingass?

and, we're all 100% confident you are taking every medication on this list, since it's cautionary.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/list-of-approved-hiv-antiretroviral-drugs-49309

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

The FDA itself finds a substantial elevation of seizures in toddlers after getting the shotz.

Higher Risk of Seizures in Toddlers Shortly After COVID-19 Vaccination: FDA Study​

Toddlers and other young children faced a higher risk of seizures shortly after COVID-19 vaccination, according to a new study from U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) researchers.

The incidence of febrile seizures was 2.5 times higher among children within a day after receiving a Moderna shot than among the same children 8 to 63 days after vaccination, the researchers said.

That risk was “significantly elevated,” they wrote in a preprint paper describing the results.

There was also a higher risk for febrile seizures zero to one day after receipt of a Pfizer-BioNTech dose than in the 8–63 day window following vaccination, but that elevated risk was not statistically significant.

Richard Forshee, deputy director of the FDA’s Office of Biostatistics and Pharmacovigilance, and other researchers conducted the self-controlled case series by analyzing data from commercial databases. The data came from CVS Health, Optum, and Carelon Research. The children were 2 to 5 years old.

The study --> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.03.12.24304127v1.full.pdf

 

[Troglodyte]

The powers-that-be, including the Desiccated Sniffer, knew that the vax/shotz did NOT prevent contracting Covid or spreading Covid. Therefore, your entire argument is based on a demonstrable lie since the same individuals would not be allowed to work while contagious.

Wait, Floggy propagating a known lie about the Chinese flu? Nooooooo ...

Only in your delusional version of reality.

https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

 

[Troglodyte]

no - those employers were following federal requirements as passed by the Xiden Assministration.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-order-federal-workers-vaccinated-strategy-combat-delta/story?id=79905030

now, since hindsight is key ...

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/11/04/amid-the-pandemic-a-rising-share-of-older-u-s-adults-are-now-retired/

yeah, but those jobs were filled, right?

not exactly, but yes. you can argue that the seats were filled, but the lack of experience was significant. want proof? look at Boeing and their problems. YUGE number of issues since Covid. Those close/at retirement age very well could have said "**** it", and retired instead of taking the clot shot. Which then drastically pushed forward the advancement of their juniors into QA and QC, who lacked the relevant experience to be in those positions. But with Joe's mandate, the company was rather ******, were they not? So now we see what has transpired from forcing - not requesting or even simply suggesting - but forcing people to inject things into their body they were not comfortable with.

btw, how is jardiance working for your fatfucking dead-dog dragging 18,000 steps per hour golf courses walkingass?

and, we're all 100% confident you are taking every medication on this list, since it's cautionary.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/list-of-approved-hiv-antiretroviral-drugs-49309

Please do connect the dots between those articles.

 

[Troglodyte]

The FDA itself finds a substantial elevation of seizures in toddlers after getting the shotz.

Higher Risk of Seizures in Toddlers Shortly After COVID-19 Vaccination: FDA Study​

Toddlers and other young children faced a higher risk of seizures shortly after COVID-19 vaccination, according to a new study from U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) researchers.

The incidence of febrile seizures was 2.5 times higher among children within a day after receiving a Moderna shot than among the same children 8 to 63 days after vaccination, the researchers said.

That risk was “significantly elevated,” they wrote in a preprint paper describing the results.

There was also a higher risk for febrile seizures zero to one day after receipt of a Pfizer-BioNTech dose than in the 8–63 day window following vaccination, but that elevated risk was not statistically significant.

Richard Forshee, deputy director of the FDA’s Office of Biostatistics and Pharmacovigilance, and other researchers conducted the self-controlled case series by analyzing data from commercial databases. The data came from CVS Health, Optum, and Carelon Research. The children were 2 to 5 years old.

The study --> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.03.12.24304127v1.full.pdf

Your ideology made you leave out the part about the safety profile remaining favorable for use in young children.

 

[Superman]

Please do connect the dots between those articles.

i did.

 

[Troglodyte]

i did.

No, you inferred a connection. Please provide evidence that people who retired during the pandemic largely did so because they didn’t want to get vaccinated.

 

[Steeltime]

Only in your delusional version of reality.

https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

Once again, you did not read the article, did you?

The incidence of hospitalization for those under 65 - as are cops, firefighters and military - was 5 per 100,000 for the vaxxed and 11 for the unvaxed/shotted. That is a difference of 6 per 100,000 or 0.006%. That is for ALL the population, where we know the cops, firefighters and military have a vastly lower incidence/absence of co-morbidities like obesity and diabetes. So in reality the increased incidence is actually LESS than 0.0006%.

The incidence of death for those under 65 - again, meaning cops, firefighters, military - goes from 1 every 100,000 to 2.5 every 100,000. That is a difference of 0.00015% where once again the actual difference is much lower since cops, firefighters, military have far lower incidence/absence of obesity and diabetes.

Why don't you compare the 160 additional guys who might have been hospitalized and the 10 guys who could have died with the tens of thousands fired and not replaced? Go ahead, I'll wait.

 

[Superman]

No, you inferred a connection. Please provide evidence that people who retired during the pandemic largely did so because they didn’t want to get vaccinated.

oh, you want personal anecdotes that you can then casually dismiss?
nah, soy boy.

if you can infer that an 8% chance of something happening is NOT going to happen, while I personally know differently, then you can use that same ****** up imagination and connect those dots.

 

[Troglodyte]

Once again, you did not read the article, did you?

The incidence of hospitalization for those under 65 - as are cops, firefighters and military - was 5 per 100,000 for the vaxxed and 11 for the unvaxed/shotted. That is a difference of 6 per 100,000 or 0.006%. That is for ALL the population, where we know the cops, firefighters and military have a vastly lower incidence/absence of co-morbidities like obesity and diabetes. So in reality the increased incidence is actually LESS than 0.0006%.

The incidence of death for those under 65 - again, meaning cops, firefighters, military - goes from 1 every 100,000 to 2.5 every 100,000. That is a difference of 0.00015% where once again the actual difference is much lower since cops, firefighters, military have far lower incidence/absence of obesity and diabetes.

Why don't you compare the 160 additional guys who might have been hospitalized and the 10 guys who could have died with the tens of thousands fired and not replaced? Go ahead, I'll wait.

That’s just hospitalizations, not overall morbidity. My point stands.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Your ideology made you leave out the part about the safety profile remaining favorable for use in young children.

LMAO, your ideology led you to completely gloss over the bad findings and go crawling around looking for lipstick on this pig.

And you overlooked the ensuing sentence after you found some lipstick: "They did not provide an updated risk-benefit analysis, and the FDA declined to provide one."

The shots damage people Floggy, despite what the Reverend of St. Covid's Church of Faith tells you. In this case, toddlers.

Keep piloting your denial train.

 

[Superman]

That’s just hospitalizations, not overall morbidity. My point stands.

your point(s) is/are as sharp as a fresh mud

 

[Troglodyte]

LMAO, your ideology led you to completely gloss over the bad findings and go crawling around looking for lipstick on this pig.

And you overlooked the ensuing sentence after you found some lipstick: "They did not provide an updated risk-benefit analysis, and the FDA declined to provide one."

The shots damage people Floggy, despite what the Reverend of St. Covid's Church of Faith tells you. In this case, toddlers.

Keep piloting your denial train.

It was the final sentence in both the MEANING and CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE sections.

You're ignoring the meaning, conclusions and relevance of all things! Yeah, who’s ideological?

Hey, there’s a great documentary on HBO - The Truth vs Alex Jones. It shows how people get manipulated into believing conspiracy theories. Reminded me of this place.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

It was the final sentence in both the MEANING and CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE sections.

You're ignoring the meaning, conclusions and relevance of all things! Yeah, who’s ideological?

Hey, there’s a great documentary on HBO - The Truth vs Alex Jones. It shows how people get manipulated into believing conspiracy theories. Reminded me of this place.

It has been long-established the FDA and Pharma companies are corruptly intertwined. @Confluence has documented this throughout this thread.

No one is surprised that the FDA still recommends the shotz. Every damning study is followed up with these recommendations.

None of which takes away from the litany of evidence of side effects of these vaccines, the most dangerous vaccines in circulation.

The POINT of this article - which the FDA could not/did not deny - is there is now a documented, elevated risk of seizures in toddlers who take the vaccines. This, along with the thousands of other side effects, is just yet another reason to question the distribution of said vaccines. Especially in young children - toddlers damnit - who are not at risk from Covid.

Further reason, now FDA supported, not to get children injected with these drugs.

Of all Covid deaths recorded, 0-4 yr olds represented 0.1% of all deaths.
5-11 yr olds also represented 0.1% of all deaths.
The same for 12-15 yr olds and 16-17 yr olds.

Drowning, choking, parental abuse account for more deaths.

Kids, toddlers, infants, teens don't need these shots, given their known risks.

Despite the FDA saying they are favorable.

 

[Troglodyte]

It has been long-established the FDA and Pharma companies are corruptly intertwined. @Confluence has documented this throughout this thread.

No one is surprised that the FDA still recommends the shotz. Every damning study is followed up with these recommendations.

None of which takes away from the litany of evidence of side effects of these vaccines, the most dangerous vaccines in circulation.

The POINT of this article - which the FDA could not/did not deny - is there is now a documented, elevated risk of seizures in toddlers who take the vaccines. This, along with the thousands of other side effects, is just yet another reason to question the distribution of said vaccines. Especially in young children - toddlers damnit - who are not at risk from Covid.

Further reason, now FDA supported, not to get children injected with these drugs.

Of all Covid deaths recorded, 0-4 yr olds represented 0.1% of all deaths.
5-11 yr olds also represented 0.1% of all deaths.
The same for 12-15 yr olds and 16-17 yr olds.

Drowning, choking, parental abuse account for more deaths.

Kids, toddlers, infants, teens don't need these shots, given their known risks.

Despite the FDA saying they are favorable.

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Again, I have never once gotten a vaccine, Covid, Flu, Shingles, etc. with preventing death or even hospitalization in mind.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Again, I have never once gotten a vaccine, Covid, Flu, Shingles, etc. with preventing death or even hospitalization in mind.

That makes you a minority then.