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Covid Vaccine

Yet they can mandate vaccines for us.

Until the White House addresses the daily inflow of COVID at the border, they have no right to say anything to any of us about what we do or don't do on this issue.

 
Wow. Now this might just sway a few people. I own a beagle. **** Fauci.




And, according to the exposé, all the beagles will be euthanized at the end of this ongoing experiment.

Morality aside, the White Coat Waste project also argues that this experiment wasn’t even scientifically necessary.

“What’s worse is that this is all completely unnecessary,” the group reports. “Experimenters admit this investigational drug, ‘has been extensively tested and confirmed…in different animal models such as mice…Mongolian gerbils…and rhesus macaques….’”

Moreover, this isn’t even the NIH’s first cruel experiment on beagles. In 2016, the White Coat Waste Project reported that Dr. Fauci’s division was “using tax dollars to buy beagle puppies and strapping capsules full of infected flies to their bare skin.”
 
Pretty strong words from Wayne Allyn Root.


This Is 1938: First, They Came for the Unvaccinated​


This is the most important commentary I've ever written.

It's time for alarm bells. It's time for me to play the part of Paul Revere: "The communist tyrants and dictators are coming! The communist tyrants and dictators are coming!" They're coming first for unvaccinated Americans.

This is 1938. I'm a Jew. I now understand just a little of what it felt like to be a Jew in 1938. No, it's not the Holocaust. Nothing can be compared to the Holocaust. Ever.

But 1938 was not the Holocaust. It was the pre-Holocaust. It was the time before the nightmare, when the foundation was being laid to destroy the freedom, free speech, businesses and lives of millions of Jews.

Everything happening today to the American people ... to the U.S. Constitution ... to freedom ... and particularly to unvaccinated Americans reminds me of 1938. This is only the beginning. It gets much worse from here.

First, "the papers." Vaccine mandates and vaccine passports are just like 1938, when the Gestapo demanded papers from every German.

Republicans asked for "papers" from migrants who had broken into our country. Criminals. Democrats said, "No, that's racism." Republicans asked for "papers" once every two years for federal elections, to prove you have a right to vote. Democrats said, "No, that's racism."

Now Democrats want American citizens, not illegal aliens, not criminals, but patriots born in this country, to produce papers 24/7. We'll need papers to enter restaurants, bars, nightclubs, concerts, casinos, conventions and hotels and to board a train, plane or bus. We'll need papers to enter a supermarket, or we'll starve to death. All for the crime of being unvaccinated against ... wait for it ...

The flu.

All for the crime of being unwilling to inject an untested, rushed to production, experimental, "for emergency use only" shot into our bodies.

What happened to the war cry of Democrats: "My body, my choice"? It only applies to murdering babies, but it doesn't apply to dangerous experimental shots that we don't want injected into our bodies.

Weren't Jews injected with experimental drugs by the depraved Nazi government? Wasn't that a key part of the Nuremberg trials? That no government could ever again inject experimental shots into the bodies of unwilling citizens? Isn't that a basic human right?

By the way, this isn't about vaccines. If you want the vaccine, take it. I'd never stop you. I'd never limit your freedom, your choice. This is about vaccine mandates — forcibly injecting Americans who don't want it. That's 1938.

But there's much more in common with 1938. Mask mandates. If you're scared, wear them. I'm not scared. I don't want to wear them. Mandates are about forcing individuals to lose their freedom, choice, individuality and human rights. That's 1938.

Lockdowns are a match with the Warsaw Ghetto. Jews were locked down. Jews couldn't work. Jews couldn't travel. Jewish businesses were labeled "nonessential."

If government can force us to close our businesses, to kill our jobs, to decide who is nonessential, then this is 1938.

Stars on clothing. It's coming. The vaccinated get into restaurants, bars, concerts, supermarkets, planes and trains. They keep their jobs. The rest of us are marked as "subhuman" for life. That's the star. That's 1938.

Media and social media as the public-relations wing of the government. That's called propaganda. Remind you of 1938? Back then, the Jews' books were burned. Today, it's those of conservatives, patriots and specifically the unvaccinated. We are silenced. Our facts are labeled "misleading." Only the facts that agree with big government's agenda count. That's 1938.

Door-to-door intimidation and making lists of those who disagree with "government knows best." Trust me, that army of door-to-door vaccine brainwashers will soon be turned into a Gestapo of gun-grabbers. 1938 was the year Nazis banned Jews from owning guns. They took them door to door. That's 1938.

Only days ago, a former Department of Homeland Security official said the unvaccinated should be on the federal no-fly list. That's exactly how Nazis attacked the Jews and others who disagreed with their agenda. It was always lists. Lists of people to be disappeared in the middle of the night; lists of those to be sent to reeducation camps; lists of those to be sent to concentration camps; lists of enemies of the state. It's happening again. Maybe this time you'll only lose your job or free speech. This is, again, 1938.

It's all disgusting and disgraceful. But I'm warning you, this is just the start. It's all going downhill from here — fast. This is the end of America. This is 1938.

Unless we stop it now. Unless we take a stand now. Unless we draw a line in the sand now.

First, they came for the unvaccinated. Trust me: Next, they're coming for you.
 
Go Italy

The Vaccinated burn health passports in protest…​



In Italy the Vaccinated burn their green pass to protest against health passports.
 
Pretty strong words from Wayne Allyn Root.


This Is 1938: First, They Came for the Unvaccinated​


This is the most important commentary I've ever written.

It's time for alarm bells. It's time for me to play the part of Paul Revere: "The communist tyrants and dictators are coming! The communist tyrants and dictators are coming!" They're coming first for unvaccinated Americans.

This is 1938. I'm a Jew. I now understand just a little of what it felt like to be a Jew in 1938. No, it's not the Holocaust. Nothing can be compared to the Holocaust. Ever.

But 1938 was not the Holocaust. It was the pre-Holocaust. It was the time before the nightmare, when the foundation was being laid to destroy the freedom, free speech, businesses and lives of millions of Jews.

Everything happening today to the American people ... to the U.S. Constitution ... to freedom ... and particularly to unvaccinated Americans reminds me of 1938. This is only the beginning. It gets much worse from here.

First, "the papers." Vaccine mandates and vaccine passports are just like 1938, when the Gestapo demanded papers from every German.

Republicans asked for "papers" from migrants who had broken into our country. Criminals. Democrats said, "No, that's racism." Republicans asked for "papers" once every two years for federal elections, to prove you have a right to vote. Democrats said, "No, that's racism."

Now Democrats want American citizens, not illegal aliens, not criminals, but patriots born in this country, to produce papers 24/7. We'll need papers to enter restaurants, bars, nightclubs, concerts, casinos, conventions and hotels and to board a train, plane or bus. We'll need papers to enter a supermarket, or we'll starve to death. All for the crime of being unvaccinated against ... wait for it ...

The flu.

All for the crime of being unwilling to inject an untested, rushed to production, experimental, "for emergency use only" shot into our bodies.

What happened to the war cry of Democrats: "My body, my choice"? It only applies to murdering babies, but it doesn't apply to dangerous experimental shots that we don't want injected into our bodies.

Weren't Jews injected with experimental drugs by the depraved Nazi government? Wasn't that a key part of the Nuremberg trials? That no government could ever again inject experimental shots into the bodies of unwilling citizens? Isn't that a basic human right?

By the way, this isn't about vaccines. If you want the vaccine, take it. I'd never stop you. I'd never limit your freedom, your choice. This is about vaccine mandates — forcibly injecting Americans who don't want it. That's 1938.

But there's much more in common with 1938. Mask mandates. If you're scared, wear them. I'm not scared. I don't want to wear them. Mandates are about forcing individuals to lose their freedom, choice, individuality and human rights. That's 1938.

Lockdowns are a match with the Warsaw Ghetto. Jews were locked down. Jews couldn't work. Jews couldn't travel. Jewish businesses were labeled "nonessential."

If government can force us to close our businesses, to kill our jobs, to decide who is nonessential, then this is 1938.

Stars on clothing. It's coming. The vaccinated get into restaurants, bars, concerts, supermarkets, planes and trains. They keep their jobs. The rest of us are marked as "subhuman" for life. That's the star. That's 1938.

Media and social media as the public-relations wing of the government. That's called propaganda. Remind you of 1938? Back then, the Jews' books were burned. Today, it's those of conservatives, patriots and specifically the unvaccinated. We are silenced. Our facts are labeled "misleading." Only the facts that agree with big government's agenda count. That's 1938.

Door-to-door intimidation and making lists of those who disagree with "government knows best." Trust me, that army of door-to-door vaccine brainwashers will soon be turned into a Gestapo of gun-grabbers. 1938 was the year Nazis banned Jews from owning guns. They took them door to door. That's 1938.

Only days ago, a former Department of Homeland Security official said the unvaccinated should be on the federal no-fly list. That's exactly how Nazis attacked the Jews and others who disagreed with their agenda. It was always lists. Lists of people to be disappeared in the middle of the night; lists of those to be sent to reeducation camps; lists of those to be sent to concentration camps; lists of enemies of the state. It's happening again. Maybe this time you'll only lose your job or free speech. This is, again, 1938.

It's all disgusting and disgraceful. But I'm warning you, this is just the start. It's all going downhill from here — fast. This is the end of America. This is 1938.

Unless we stop it now. Unless we take a stand now. Unless we draw a line in the sand now.

First, they came for the unvaccinated. Trust me: Next, they're coming for you.
While I'm not for vaccine mandates, I'm totally uncomfortable with the Nazi comparisons. We are not talking about restricting people because of their religion or ethnic heritage. This is a contagious disease. The "agenda" here is not ethnic cleansing but preventing people from getting sick and dying. It's like comparing apples and bicycles. Vaccines have been mandated in a variety of circumstances for decades. Overstating this like it's akin to some kind of racial, religious or ethnic discrimination just diminishes the credibility of the argument to me. No one is going to round you up an exterminate you for not getting vaccinated.
 
No one is going to round you up an exterminate you for not getting vaccinated.

He made the point of illustrating the differences you bring up.

They aren't going to round you up and exterminate you. As he said, this is akin to what it was like PRIOR to all of that happening.

But they are going to make it impossible for you to live your life unless you do. Months ago people told me I was stupid when I said we would be forced to vaccinated. Well here it is. Coming very fast.

It should be alarming to you as well that in order to go places, travel places, you have to show papers. "Hi we would like a table for four please? We need to see your papers first."

It's a bit odd this doesn't bother you.

This is not the bubonic plague. This medical situation does not warrant this incredible over reach.
 
This is a contagious disease.

It's a contagious respiratory virus, similar to the common cold or the flu.

Vaccines have been mandated in a variety of circumstances for decades.

For things like smallpox etc. Not for a respiratory virus with a 99% survivability rate. Now if the flu vaccine is mandated for certain people in certain circumstances, they know up front what they're getting into. I'm not okay with a mandatory vaccine to simply enter a restaurant, museum, park or place of business.
 
For things like smallpox etc. Not for a respiratory virus with a 99% survivability rate. Now if the flu vaccine is mandated for certain people in certain circumstances, they know up front what they're getting into. I'm not okay with a mandatory vaccine to simply enter a restaurant, museum, park or place of business.

Mandatory vaccines were also for diseases far more lethal than COVID. And they were situational (i.e., in order to get into public schools, kids had to have certain shots).

Can anyone here name a time or place where in order to go into Ruby Tuesdays or Applebee's, before you got seated, you were asked to show your Rubella, Measles, or Small Pox vaccination card?

I'll wait...

...till hell freezes over. Because that's never happened.

And all of this for a "disease" that has a 99.58% survival rate for 100% of people....FAR greater for those of us less than 70 or even 60.
 
 
If everyone took the hardline of get vaxed or **** off and go elsewhere, I wouldn’t care. But they aren’t. We’re starting to see mask requirements and other accommodations for the selfish unvaccinated. **** that, make them jump through hoops.
why do you hate black people?
 
Ya'll keep hammering this "math" but miss the point I continue to make. I agree that if 100% of Israelis were vaccinated, 100% of the cases would be among the vaccinated. You would also assume, that if 7% (hypothetical) of vaccinated are going to get the virus again and become hospitalized, you would assume that 7% figure would remain the same throughout the spike or curve.

Instead it is not. The # of Seriously Ill per 100K of vaccinated and partially vaccinated people is increasing by 957% and over 3,000% respectively.

Is this making sense? If I have 100 cases of fully vaccinated patients and 7% are gonna be reinfected and hospitalized, that is 7. If I end up a month later with 1,000 cases, I should see 70. If I see a million cases, I should see 70,000 seriously hospitalized.

What we are seeing this month among those vaccinated and partially vaccinated is an increase in the rate of those people that are getting seriously ill.

Yes, absolute cases are going to rise. Duh. What's bothersome is that RATE. A larger % of the "protected" population is becoming seriously ill with growing cases. That shouldn't be happening to this degree.
The point your missing is that the 3,000% increase represents 250 people and speaks more to the fact that serious cases were almost nonexistent.

The article I posted indicated serious cases were down slightly. That doesn’t suggest that Israel will see another 3,000% increase on the 250.
 
That is literally the dude's only avenue of debate here. He waffles from one changing stat to another in attempts to say "gotcha." So evasive, so weak.
At least three different people tried to explain your faulty reasoning and lack of perspective, Tim. “Gotcha” x 3.
 
President Xiden clearly said that the vaccine will keep you from getting the Rona.
now, not so much

in fact, in some instances its not working at all.

so the shot will work for some people, but not everyone. it can have serious side effects. It can have no side effects. It can do what it was intended to do. It can do that with side effects, or no side effects. the only way to know is to inject it into your body. and then you're essentially a guinea pig at that point.

no arguing that.
 
At least three different people tried to explain your faulty reasoning and lack of perspective, Tim. “Gotcha” x 3.

21, Tibs, and you? He's gotta be devastated.

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He made the point of illustrating the differences you bring up.

They aren't going to round you up and exterminate you. As he said, this is akin to what it was like PRIOR to all of that happening.

But they are going to make it impossible for you to live your life unless you do. Months ago people told me I was stupid when I said we would be forced to vaccinated. Well here it is. Coming very fast.

It should be alarming to you as well that in order to go places, travel places, you have to show papers. "Hi we would like a table for four please? We need to see your papers first."

It's a bit odd this doesn't bother you.

This is not the bubonic plague. This medical situation does not warrant this incredible over reach.
Like I said, I'm not for mandates. But this isn't Nazism. This isn't people who hate you because of your ethnic heritage or religion. This is people who don't want others to get sick, get hospitalized or possibly die. It's offensive to compare the two.

You're against restrictions, against shutdowns, against masks, you're fighting tooth and nail to discredit the vaccines. What is you want exactly? No mitigation? Just accept hundreds of thousands more dead and millions more with long term symptoms?

I don't want the government imposing a vaccine mandate, but if I as a business owner don't want people spreading a highly contagious disease around my store or restaurant or airplane making people afraid to utilize my services, isn't that my right?
 
I with ya Hines.... BUT......I am not getting my hopes set too high either.

“My response to that line of thinking is to remind such optimists that Republicans had control of Congress—and the presidency—for several years, and essentially, despite some line cracks in the Deep State behemoth due to Donald Trump, things continued to get worse, the managerial government continued to grow in power, and did its best (with many Republicans in tow), eventually successfully, to eject the Trumpster from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The administrative elites control education, control immigration policy (with GOP collaboration), control our media and entertainment, and dominate most of the levels of our government; and their reach and control expand by the day.”

What they didn't have was the super majority with 60 senators. That limited what they could get done with legislation. Bummer had that briefly and that's how they got obummercare albeit through an omnibus bill after Ted died, which shouldn't have been allowed.
 
Like I said, I'm not for mandates. But this isn't Nazism. This isn't people who hate you because of your ethnic heritage or religion. This is people who don't want others to get sick, get hospitalized or possibly die. It's offensive to compare the two.

You're against restrictions, against shutdowns, against masks, you're fighting tooth and nail to discredit the vaccines. What is you want exactly? No mitigation? Just accept hundreds of thousands more dead and millions more with long term symptoms?

I don't want the government imposing a vaccine mandate, but if I as a business owner don't want people spreading a highly contagious disease around my store or restaurant or airplane making people afraid to utilize my services, isn't that my right?
Not speaking for Tim, since he can do that, himself, but it seems he's only pointing out the blatant hypocrisy in all of it.

Gov't wants you to get vaxxed. fine.
But the gov't then says that the vax isnt as magical as they thought.
but get vaxxed.
why? its not as magical as they were led to believe. its not as magical as they want us to believe.
in fact, it's showing that the vax is contributing to stronger cases of mutations of the virus.

if they had called it a shot and not a vax, it might have been better. we get a flu shot. we know that shot is not going to last the rest of our lives. yet they still call this a vaccine. vaccines last the duration of your lifetime.

yet get the vax. it might help. it might not. but, regardless, we're going to find a way to force you to do so. even if we don't do the same - that's how the gov't is working on this. this has created a social stigma to those who are or are not vaxxed. follow the changing science, except when it doesnt flow to your bias.

its a shot, not a vaccine. call it as such.
 
I don't want the government imposing a vaccine mandate, but if I as a business owner don't want people spreading a highly contagious disease around my store or restaurant or airplane making people afraid to utilize my services, isn't that my right?
If you're vaccinated, what do you have to fear?
 

Have vaccines caused the delta variant?​

It is impossible for the delta variant to have been caused by vaccines.

This virus mutation was detected for the first time in October 2020 in the Indian state of Maharashtra. The first person in India to be vaccinated, however, did not receive that vaccination until January 2021, around three months after the delta variant developed. This refutes the claims mentioned at the beginning.
 
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