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Covid Vaccine

I had a flog moment and forgot how to google.

It's ok, it happened to you once. It happens to him all day long every damn day.

Imagine being in that family?
 
Are mandates enforceable? Or will companies simply cower down to the decree?

The mandate is on shaky legal grounds for the simple reason that while legislatures can pass laws governing health and safety, Biden's executive order is not a law. Therefore, the Supreme Court decisions holding that state and Federal governments can order students to be vaccinated, for example, have no application to an executive order.

Further, health and safety issues are genuinely matters of state interest, subject to the 10th amendment. The Fed can mandate that, subject to certain exceptions for religion or other medical reasons, its employees get a vaccine, but that does not apply to anybody other than Federal employees.

Finally, even laws cannot be arbitrary. The 100 employee limit, excusing the postal service from compliance, etc. portray this as a bizarre, ill-conceived, off-handed order from somebody who seems almost demented.

If the dunce cap fits ...

Dammit, where's Jimmy?

Of late, Jimmy has been busier than Beijing Joe's gaffe monitor.
 
The mandate is on shaky legal grounds for the simple reason that while legislatures can pass laws governing health and safety, Biden's executive order is not a law. Therefore, the Supreme Court decisions holding that state and Federal governments can order students to be vaccinated, for example, have no application to an executive order.

Further, health and safety issues are genuinely matters of state interest, subject to the 10th amendment. The Fed can mandate that, subject to certain exceptions for religion or other medical reasons, its employees get a vaccine, but that does not apply to anybody other than Federal employees.

Finally, even laws cannot be arbitrary. The 100 employee limit, excusing the postal service from compliance, etc. portray this as a bizarre, ill-conceived, off-handed order from somebody who seems almost demented.

If the dunce cap fits ...



Of late, Jimmy has been busier than Beijing Joe's gaffe monitor.
The 100 employer thing is an osha regulation for their standards. That’s why I think he is using it. Those under 100 are exempt from many standards and those under (I think ) ten do not apply at all or at least very little.
 
The 100 employer thing is an osha regulation for their standards. That’s why I think he is using it. Those under 100 are exempt from many standards and those under (I think ) ten do not apply at all or at least very little.

Right, I get that, but most workplace safety regulations place a cost on the employer so the regulations have an employer limit so that small employers are not shackled with the cost.

That analysis does NOT apply to vaccinations of employees - which are free - or to addressing a contagious virus, which has no relationship to the number of employees. That makes the order completely arbitrary, not to mention the nonsensical decision to inexplicably exempt arguably the largest civilian workforce in the nation, the Postal Service.
 
Yep. I don't know if they still are, but I believe every person who died last year in most or all regions was given a post-mortem Covid test. If Covid was detected, death certificate said "Covid death" - didn't matter if the deceased perished in a car accident, ladder accident, poisoning, murder, heart attack. Nope...Covid be da cause.



100%, pure, utter politics and religion.
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While doing research I found a chart on the CDC talking about deaths among vaccinated, there were 2400 something confirmed deaths reported to that point with a positive Covid test. The official tally included all who tested positive, despite it stating 21 percent were verified to not have died due to covid! 21%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now obviously this is just an extrapolation from the vaccinated only but it puts a real number to this argument about the overcount of deaths attributable to COvid not just where Covid was found.

That would mean around 141,000 thousand reported deaths listed in the Covid Count were NOT attributed to Covid. That is a sizable change in the total numbers.
So it’s “only” slightly over 500,000 people. Point?
 
You finally, thoroughly read a reply of mine!! I'm stunned. I'm glad you got all of that from what I wrote. You're learning. Progress comes in small steps.

I said exactly what you said above in my post. 38% of cases in a week were vaccinated people. We have been told...and YOU have reminded us...breakthrough cases are incredibly rare. My, how times have changed huh? Still stand by that?

Those numbers continue to grow as more and more vaccinated people approach the 6 month anniversary of their vaccinations.

And finally, as a reminder, the article was deceptive. No arguing that. Saying just 0.02% of vaccinated people were infected was bullshit. Just 0.3% of unvaccinated people were too. But they didn't make that compare.

2 months ago, it was 99% of infections were unvaccinated people. Do you see the change? It isn't the unvaccinated alone driving case loads. The vaccinated are a rising % of those cases every week....everywhere.
What don’t you get about 3.3 times less likely? It’s 3.3 times less of a problem than unvaccinated people spreading the virus. And again, what happened to your “deaths are everything” argument?
 
If you think vaccine mandates are unconstitutional, how do you feel about being denied access to a hospital because of your vaccination status? We can’t do the latter, so we’re doing the former.

 
If you think vaccine mandates are unconstitutional, how do you feel about being denied access to a hospital because of your vaccination status? We can’t do the latter, so we’re doing the former.

Good morning and **** JOE BIDEN AND **** YOUR VACCINE MANDATE! My Body My Choice *******! Isn't that the way it goes?
 

Nurse Speaks Out — The majority of our hospitalized Covid patients are actually suffering from ‘Vaccine Injuries’…​

Posted by Kane on September 10, 2021 7:39 am

Click the link for the video.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaki...are-actually-suffering-from-vaccine-injuries/




Whistleblower! Nurse DESTROYS "Delta" Narrative, VACCINATED Patients Fill Hospital!


Fantastic work here from Stew Peters — Worth watching all the way through

If you can’t see the Rumble video, turn off your AD blockers. CFP runs zero ads.



 
Just so you people know the vaccine isn’t a vaccine it’s an experimental gene therapy. It doesn’t stop you from getting the virus it doesn’t stop you from transmitting the virus. Israel reports 95% vaccination rate and most of its new virus cases are among people who have received the vaccination this tells us that the vaccine is not effective. The Wuhan virus is a variant of the common cold which mutates so fast that we cannot develop a vaccine for it. If you are not over 70 years old and you do not have significant comorbidities or a body mass number over 35 the virus has a .07% chance of killing you. I have had the virus and recovered from it, if you are a generally healthy human being you will be fine. Leftists are using this virus has a manufactured crisis two seize and hold power over you that’s it.
 
If you think vaccine mandates are unconstitutional, how do you feel about being denied access to a hospital because of your vaccination status?

I think that reasoning is a perfect example of the craven, vile, disgusting mindset of lefties. They are power-hungry dolts, idiots, morons, nauseating blowhard ******** who are incapable of reasoning and instead resort to violence and threats.

Antifa is running around beating journalists and citizens, threatening people, the left encourage it. The threat to withhold medical care is just another example of this violent approach.

The vast, VAST majority of Americans are either vaccinated or have natural immunity (at least 80% by this point), but the vaccine has limited effect on mutations. Oh, and vaccines naturally cause mutations, something researchers have known for years. So the ENTIRE vaccine hysteria is not grounded in reality and instead is simply a PR ploy by the imbecile failures trying to distract us from a million illegals walking into the country, the humiliation in Afghanistan, energy prices, inflation, stalled economy, outrageous government spending, the lying about the origins of the virus, the utter failure of the government to tell us the truth, and on and on.

Hey, I thought medical care was a "fundamental right"? Remember that? Once government thinks it can decide who gets medical care based on their fealty to the government, the nation is done. Over. And of course, as expected, the contemptible, disgusting leftists have no problem with limiting medical care based on political ideology.

And if you think the "no medical care" threat is not political, you are an idiot, an ignorant piece of garbage, or more likely both.
 
Just so you people know the vaccine isn’t a vaccine it’s an experimental gene therapy. It doesn’t stop you from getting the virus it doesn’t stop you from transmitting the virus. Israel reports 95% vaccination rate and most of its new virus cases are among people who have received the vaccination this tells us that the vaccine is not effective. The Wuhan virus is a variant of the common cold which mutates so fast that we cannot develop a vaccine for it. If you are not over 70 years old and you do not have significant comorbidities or a body mass number over 35 the virus has a .07% chance of killing you. I have had the virus and recovered from it, if you are a generally healthy human being you will be fine. Leftists are using this virus has a manufactured crisis two seize and hold power over you that’s it.
Nuh uh
- Flog
 
If you think vaccine mandates are unconstitutional, how do you feel about being denied access to a hospital because of your vaccination status? We can’t do the latter, so we’re doing the former.

so, in your own words, since we cannot deny people access to a hospital due to their vaccination status, we'll just go ahead and ***-rape the Constitution and **** everyone's Constitutional Rights.

let me ask you this.

since you're a-ok with Joe and Kamala being in charge of your healthcare, would you have been a-ok with Donald J Trump and Mike Pence being in charge of your healthcare?

Personally, I don't want any goobermintal idiot being in charge of MY healthcare.
 
Just so you people know the vaccine isn’t a vaccine it’s an experimental gene therapy. It doesn’t stop you from getting the virus it doesn’t stop you from transmitting the virus. Israel reports 95% vaccination rate and most of its new virus cases are among people who have received the vaccination this tells us that the vaccine is not effective. The Wuhan virus is a variant of the common cold which mutates so fast that we cannot develop a vaccine for it. If you are not over 70 years old and you do not have significant comorbidities or a body mass number over 35 the virus has a .07% chance of killing you. I have had the virus and recovered from it, if you are a generally healthy human being you will be fine. Leftists are using this virus has a manufactured crisis two seize and hold power over you that’s it.
I can't find the clip myself but Quinn played a sound clip of Xiden this morning saying "Everyone needs vaccinated because vaccinated workers need to be protected from unvaccinated coworkers." Really?
 
so, in your own words, since we cannot deny people access to a hospital due to their vaccination status, we'll just go ahead and ***-rape the Constitution and **** everyone's Constitutional Rights.

let me ask you this.

since you're a-ok with Joe and Kamala being in charge of your healthcare, would you have been a-ok with Donald J Trump and Mike Pence being in charge of your healthcare?

Personally, I don't want any goobermintal idiot being in charge of MY healthcare.
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I asked Floggy twice to explain how it is possible that while the number of vaccinated increases every day, and the total number fully vaccinated is 55%, the number with at least one dose is over 65%, the number of cases is higher than September of 2020, when NOBODY was vaccinated.

Please, explain. Go ahead. Tell me how a huge number of vaccinated Americans can co-exist with a huge increase in the number of cases.

[Hint: Maybe vaccine not working against variants, so the vaccine obsession is a red herring?]
 
since you're a-ok with Joe and Kamala being in charge of your healthcare, would you have been a-ok with Donald J Trump and Mike Pence being in charge of your healthcare?
The government is always right and you should always do what the government says, unless Republicans are in charge.
 
so, in your own words, since we cannot deny people access to a hospital due to their vaccination status, we'll just go ahead and ***-rape the Constitution and **** everyone's Constitutional Rights.

let me ask you this.

since you're a-ok with Joe and Kamala being in charge of your healthcare, would you have been a-ok with Donald J Trump and Mike Pence being in charge of your healthcare?

Personally, I don't want any goobermintal idiot being in charge of MY healthcare.
Idiot, this isn’t the first time a vaccine has been mandated. This is the first time a vaccine has had an ideological opposition.

I got vaccinated while Trump was still in office.

You don’t want the government in charge of your healthcare, but you won’t refuse Medicare, will you?
 
I asked Floggy twice to explain how it is possible that while the number of vaccinated increases every day, and the total number fully vaccinated is 55%, the number with at least one dose is over 65%, the number of cases is higher than September of 2020, when NOBODY was vaccinated.

Please, explain. Go ahead. Tell me how a huge number of vaccinated Americans can co-exist with a huge increase in the number of cases.

[Hint: Maybe vaccine not working against variants, so the vaccine obsession is a red herring?]
Like Tim, you struggle with math, cohorts, etc.
 
Idiot, this isn’t the first time a vaccine has been mandated. This is the first time a vaccine has had an ideological opposition.

I got vaccinated while Trump was still in office.

You don’t want the government in charge of your healthcare, but you won’t refuse Medicare, will you?
HOLY ****
you admitted it.

Y-O-U admitted to following an ideological stance.

despite what you've been told, what stats have been shown, what links have been posted to show that there is not a political difference, but more of one that is distrusting in the goobermint, YOU are finally getting your head out of the clouds and seeing that there is a staunch ideology at play here. I mean, you're still wrong on most of this, but the fact that you're opening your eyes to this is worthy of applause at this point, 174 pages into this.

so tell me, why do black people not trust the goobermint and why do you think they should?
 
What don’t you get about 3.3 times less likely? It’s 3.3 times less of a problem than unvaccinated people spreading the virus. And again, what happened to your “deaths are everything” argument?

You'd miss the point if it was the tip of a cruise missile penetrating your manbun.

Why are the rates of vaxed people catching Covid rising and rising and rising and rising? YOU preached breakthrough cases were just 1%. Screamed it. CRICKETS. 40% of cases in MA were vaxed people.

Because...the...vaccines...are fading. Their efficacies are waning. Booster shots are coming because studies around the globe show after 6 months they run out of gas. Boosters are coming because the jab you all got is not effective against Delta, and likely won't work much if at all against Lambda and Mu.

MA, which we are discussing because you posted the willfully misleading article, is evidence of everything you've been denying since July. These vaccines are losing steam.
 
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