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Crisis in Venezuela update

We lived in SF for 7 years in the 70s. It was a different time and Cali was a different place. It was spectacular. I traveled there frequently through the years and was appalled by what had happened to it. It had been a solidly Republican state and devolved into a third world wannabee. Now its bankrupt and slithering into a real third world melt down. Read Victor Davis Hanson's commentaries. Its so sad.

Good story though. My wife and I voted for Dutch in 80 even after the polls back East had closed and the outcome was known. Hadda do it. And 39 years later we can still say 'we voted for Dutch twice!'.

Gavin Newsome has it under control. He will fix it.
 
Gavin Newsome has it under control. He will fix it.

He's a little snot who married Siebel's billions. What a poser. Scary thing - he'll be the dim nominee at some point. It'll be hard to watch them make Jennifer out to be some luminary after they've trashed Melania for exactly the same reasons. See, Melania actually has a brain.
 
We lived in SF for 7 years in the 70s. It was a different time and Cali was a different place. It was spectacular. I traveled there frequently through the years and was appalled by what had happened to it. It had been a solidly Republican state and devolved into a third world wannabee. Now its bankrupt and slithering into a real third world melt down. Read Victor Davis Hanson's commentaries. Its so sad.

Good story though. My wife and I voted for Dutch in 80 even after the polls back East had closed and the outcome was known. Hadda do it. And 39 years later we can still say 'we voted for Dutch twice!'.

Different times huh Vinny ? They just traded this.....

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For this......

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We lived in SF for 7 years in the 70s. It was a different time and Cali was a different place. It was spectacular. I traveled there frequently through the years and was appalled by what had happened to it. It had been a solidly Republican state and devolved into a third world wannabee. Now its bankrupt and slithering into a real third world melt down. Read Victor Davis Hanson's commentaries. Its so sad.

Good story though. My wife and I voted for Dutch in 80 even after the polls back East had closed and the outcome was known. Hadda do it. And 39 years later we can still say 'we voted for Dutch twice!'.

Same exact thing is happening to Virginia. We need our own wall to protect us from nearby DC.
 
Same exact thing is happening to Virginia. We need our own wall to protect us from nearby DC.

Lived in Clifton for several years in the early 90s. Worked 'out of' Reston for several years in the early 00s. Yes, a wall would seem nice, but many of 'them' live in NOVA.
 
**** is getting scary, food's not enough and salaries can't keep up with the food prices, now the govnmt decided to take over the supermarkets to put fixed prices in everything, which will cause scarcity and desperation. Markets are going to close out after their inventory is over because they won't have the money to replenish them.

I'll keep in touch but I'm getting ******* scared here



How can this be? Cuba and Venezuela are socialist nations that some on the USA left aspire to be like.


I live in a neighborhood with a few people from Cuba and Venezuela. They had enough money to escape, and they love for America towers over those who jump border fences to be here.


The Cuban ( Older ones ) and Venezuelan ( People under 40 ) stories are mostly the same. They took the guns and came for our bsuiness, land, and wealth. The two groups are now closely aligned and stand with each other in marches or protest.


The leftist socialists, under the guise of military song men, of course, seized all the wealth for themselves, and use food, water, and medical supplies as a bargaining chip to keep the people who unable to flea their nation in check.
 
Yeah hope all is as well as can be Litos.
 
Litos, hoping you're ok. I read today's news and saw **** was hitting the fan. Keep your head down and check in when you get a chance.

Yeah, I saw armored troop carriers running over people.
 
Venezuela is an iron clad argument in favor of the second amendment, I’ll say that. If you willingly give up your right to defend yourself in favor of virtue signaling, knowing what is happening in Venezuela, you deserve what you get. While I feel horrible for the suffering of the people there, this should be a lesson to freedom loving people everywhere. Do not give up your rights. Even if you don’t like them.
 
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Yeah, that was crazy. Trump should just have the CIA take out Maduro.

While I agree, he can’t. It’s against the law. Sure fire way to end up in jail.
 
While I agree, he can’t. It’s against the law. Sure fire way to end up in jail.

But the CIA has secretly killed thousands. How does that happen Sarge without the President knowing?
 
Litos,

Keep your head down and stay safe.
 
But the CIA has secretly killed thousands. How does that happen Sarge without the President knowing?

It’s not about killing foreigners. It’s about assassinating foreign leaders. Explicitly against the law. Executive order 12333, signed by Reagan in 1981. It was an order originally signed by Carter I think, and Reagan added rules. While there is other stuff in there, political assassinations of foreign leaders is against the law.
 
I suppose Trump could simply rescind that EO if he wanted. Read up on it. Seems every President has added something or taken something away from the original. But as it stands, it is verboten.
 
Well that sucks. Then officially declare war on Venezuela and wipe out their military, then install the good guy as leader.

No please God NO. I'm sick of getting into this stupid conflicts. Let them deal with it themselves. What will happen is we'll get blamed for everything and then the **** will hit the fan. Stay out of these foreign wars.
 
No please God NO. I'm sick of getting into this stupid conflicts. Let them deal with it themselves. What will happen is we'll get blamed for everything and then the **** will hit the fan. Stay out of these foreign wars.

While I agree with the sentiment expressed in your post, I would find this a more honorable venture than Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
Litos,

Keep your head down and stay safe.

Hear, hear. Hope you and your family are as safe as humanely possible right now Litos. God speed.
 
While I agree with the sentiment expressed in your post, I would find this a more honorable venture than Iraq and Afghanistan.

We'd spend billions of dollars and accomplish nothing. Then we'd get lectured about how the entire country is now our responsibility because we interfered. Then million of them will come here. Also Juan Guaido isn't a great guy either. He was a socialist. Who knows what he is now? There is nothing happening in Venezuela that isn't happening in Mexico except the government is doing it instead of the cartels.
 
Is it a civil war yet?


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