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Deflate-gate......God I hate the Pats!!!!

I would love to know your truthful connection to the Patriots as your either trolling, or a loved one roots for them.

It is something because anyone who defends a team that has cheated for years, has some sort of agenda he isn't telling.
 
Yes the colts were cheating to keep the balls in spec.

From a Pats** troll on the Seahawks' board. I posted this elsewhere already.

....And it wouldn't surprise me if the Colts didn't deflate the Pats balls, or maybe the officials to set us up.
 
t would be naive to assume that the procedures used by the Patriots when it comes to inflating and handling footballs was accidental or coincidental,

from the same article

I'm not quoting the article. I said LOOK AT THE COMMENTS!!!

The general public is not as hell-bent on this issue as you guys are around here. That's my point. For some reason Steeler Nation uses no logic or reason when it comes to Patriots issues or Bill Belichick. Every small pushing of the rule envelope become the entire reason for their success. Even on the spygate issue I've disagreed with you guys numerous time as to it's importance and illegality at the time. I'm not going to rehash that.

Deflategate is the same thing. This message board is UNIQUE with it's vitriol and hatred of the Patriots. You are not normal on this issue and you are not in the majority and it's tough to take you seriously in a debate when your point of view is so emotionally invested and historically skewed from the facts.
 
I'm not quoting the article. I said LOOK AT THE COMMENTS!!!

The general public is not as hell-bent on this issue as you guys are around here. That's my point. For some reason Steeler Nation uses no logic or reason when it comes to Patriots issues or Bill Belichick. Every small pushing of the rule envelope become the entire reason for their success. Even on the spygate issue I've disagreed with you guys numerous time as to it's importance and illegality at the time. I'm not going to rehash that.

Deflategate is the same thing. This message board is UNIQUE with it's vitriol and hatred of the Patriots. You are not normal on this issue and you are not in the majority and it's tough to take you seriously in a debate when your point of view is so emotionally invested and historically skewed from the facts.

So, you will admit to not being a Steelers fan.
 
I'm not quoting the article. I said LOOK AT THE COMMENTS!!!

The general public is not as hell-bent on this issue as you guys are around here. That's my point. For some reason Steeler Nation uses no logic or reason when it comes to Patriots issues or Bill Belichick. Every small pushing of the rule envelope become the entire reason for their success. Even on the spygate issue I've disagreed with you guys numerous time as to it's importance and illegality at the time. I'm not going to rehash that.

Deflategate is the same thing. This message board is UNIQUE with it's vitriol and hatred of the Patriots. You are not normal on this issue and you are not in the majority and it's tough to take you seriously in a debate when your point of view is so emotionally invested and historically skewed from the facts.

LOL because the general public is not trying to DEFEND the cheating LOL
 
So, you will admit to not being a Steelers fan.

What does this have to do with being a Steelers fan? I've been a fan since 1976 when I was 7 years old.

Again, which team you are a fan of should not cloud your judgement or reason. That's the problem I am having with all of you. You let your fandom change your opinion and cloud the facts.

This is NOT a Steelers issue. It's an NFL issue. It's a football issue. It's a scientific analysis of how the modus operendi of inflating, inspecting and handling the footballs during a game (which is something I never really cared about and neither did anyone on this message board before this week).
 
LOL because the general public is not trying to DEFEND the cheating LOL

Oh... the 15 pages of arguments before I got involves proves nothing, huh?

Man are you guys grasping for straws....
 
I don't live in Pittsburgh MSA, I discuss football on a much broader basis than just "Steelers issues" only. You are unique in your hatred of the Patriots and are NOT normal on the Spygate and Deflategate.

For some reason you guys can't see the forest from the trees when discussing the Patriots at all.

I don't think the disparity would be because we are from PIttsburgh. I think your "norm" or what would skew the opinion of "no big deal" is the difference between football fans as we are,, and the casual,, I like the cowboys because they have cool uniforms fans.
 
yeah comments from pats fans mean absolutely nothing


also most of the youth of america is dumb as a box of rocks, most of them say some of the dumbest things. Yeah I will hang my hat on something that isn't logical.


Logic

one teams balls wouldn't be normal and the others not.
Bill has a indepth history of cheating in a court of law he wouldn't get a benefit of the doubt.
It has been reported multiple times , logically falling in place with his cheating past.
Goodell made it clear that with Bountygate the supposid, "I didn't know" stance doesn't get a free pass.
Cheat even is ******* manipulating formations now knowing the refs are having a hard time picking it up in time relaying who is eligible to the other team, directly going away from what he said at the press that they are staying away from everything that is iffy. A lie.


so yeah logic

I'll stick with the things that make more sense, not preposterous mumbajumbo that doesn't.
 
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I don't think the disparity would be because we are from PIttsburgh. I think your "norm" or what would skew the opinion of "no big deal" is the difference between football fans as we are,, and the casual,, I like the cowboys because they have cool uniforms fans.

Sure, that's it. You're such smart football fans you know more about cheating than everyone else...

God, now you're patting yourself on the back. Next thing you're going to say is you're the best football fans in the country.
 
Sure, that's it. You're such smart football fans you know more about cheating than everyone else...

God, now you're patting yourself on the back. Next thing you're going to say is you're the best football fans in the country.

And you assume you know more about science and logic than anyone else here.
 
Oh... the 15 pages of arguments before I got involves proves nothing, huh?

Man are you guys grasping for straws....

Do you know that the colts complained about the same thing when the *pats played in Indy in a domed stadium....
 
And you assume you know more about science and logic than anyone else here.

oh he is smarter than logic apparently

has to be a Tom Brady poster somewhere within that household .lol
 
I just figured you were Bob Kraft's nephew or grandson.

it is something because he is ignorantly thinking it is just a Steeler thing instead of across the country thing.

I have seen more coaches, players, going against the Patriots than ever before. But it's the Nation we hatahssss.

GTFO with that bullshit.
 
I hope I am surprised, but at this point I am assuming it is going to be business as usual with Goodall. Maybe a small penalty and loss of a late rd pick at most. who wouldn't trade that for a super bowl run?
 
I just know an experiment was run using real NFL footballs, using real temperature change of 20 degrees and wetting down the balls like the conditions on the field and the pressure fell 1.75 psi to 1.95 psi.

When Mr. Nye decides to run some experiments like he normally does, I'll watch and learn something.

So assuming what you claim is correct...somehow the Colts balls were not affected? 12 for 12.
 
So assuming what you claim is correct...somehow the Colts balls were not affected? 12 for 12.

nobody has a logical explanation for that

BTW as was posted in another thread this country wide poll trumps what a few online think


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so ******* much for its just a ******* Pittsburgh thing huh?
 
Do you know that the colts complained about the same thing when the *pats played in Indy in a domed stadium....

Why wasn't anything done about it?

I think it's because maybe the Colts knew it's not that big an issue and kept it in their bag of tricks to save for later (and they were getting blown out).

To me what the Colts did is like seeing an illegally curved stick in hockey. Most of the time you let it go. Most of the time it really doesn't matter. But you save it for when you might be down 3-2 in the last 5 minutes and the coach kind of randomly tells the ref to check so-and-so's stick.

I think the Colts and Ravens have known forever the Patriots like using underinflated balls (I think how they get underinflated is probably within the rules). I think when the Colts were down 14-7 at halftime of the AFCCG and not looking very good (and lucky to only be down 7), Pegano used the "illegal" stick trick on the Patriots with an attempt to get into Brady's head and maybe hope it would rattle them up enough to cause them to play worse football in the 2nd half.

It didn't work.

To me it's almost just as nefarious to use a rule (ball pressure) that no one ever really cared about and every team probably skirts and doesn't care about (the refs can inflate/deflate the balls during their inspection btw) to try and gain an advantage by getting into the Patriots'/Brady's head at halftime of the AFCCG. You don't think that's kind of grasping at the rulebook straws?

This is a Harbaugh and Pegano thing. I think they talked about it prior to the game. I think Harbaugh would have done the same thing had he not been UP 14 points in his game vs. the Patriots. Just like Harbaugh is always trying to find a cheap way to get the other team in trouble with the rules, even against us. And just like Tomlin probably skirted the rules a bit by standing close to the sideline while someone's running back a touchdown.

Did it really effect the game? Do we know how accurate the ball pressure is in every other game played in the NFL? Do we know how prevalent using slightly flat balls in cold, wet games is throughout the league? No. No one here knows that. So everyone just wants to assume because of Spygate that this was some nefarious plot by the evil Bill Belichick and Tom Brady that makes a HUGE difference in games.
 
Sorry Del but that is nothing more than you're thoughts and pure speculation. Not one fact in the entire post. Surely nothing scientific. You are vacillating between the Colts actually cheating in one post to the Colts now waiting to use the pats** cheating against them in a certain game. You appear just to be throwing **** against the wall and hoping something sticks.
 
why wasn't anything done about it?


do you known how many times the Pats have been reported and nothing was done?

what does anyone not ******* get that Kraft and Goodell are best buddies?

destroying tapes PROVED that, there in public hugging, hanging out PROVES that.

it doesn't matter if CHEATING effects the ******* outcome of every game. Just the fact that they continually break the rules is what matters

your apologetic Patriot nut hugging is a embarrassment to this board.
 
A few of things on this issue:

1. As admirable as the PC was yesterday, the Patriots should not have trotted Belichick out there as an "expert" when he clearly admitted that he wasn't an expert on the situation.
2. Really interested in the difference in air pressures between each teams set of footballs. Why the difference?
3. If the NFL knew about this issue ahead of the game, why didn't they either (A) warn the Patriots about this being a rules violation, (B) watch the footballs like a hawk or (C) both?
4. This really isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things and way too much has been made about it in the media. Pretty sad that a story on deflated footballs gets more attention than some of the bigger problems that the NFL has. Wish half of this attention was put on the NFL continuing to screw the everyday fan as it is on a couple of pounds of air pressure.
 
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