Ebola out of control in Africa

[Ron Burgundy]

Obamacare has it covered....now pay your medical insurance or be subjected to fines, levies and forfeitures.

All citizens must prove they have health insurance but not everyone has to prove they are citizens.
Basically I say that 1) we don't let non-citizens from west Africa enter the country for the foreseeable future, 2) U.S. Citizens entering the country from west Africa have to be in quarantine for a month (don't worry, BommaCare will pay for it), and 3) U.S. Citizens are banned from traveling to west Africa.

 

[Steelerfan]

All citizens must prove they have health insurance but not everyone has to prove they are citizens.

Holy cow, that's awesome. Just ponder that for a minute. What a screwed up country we are. Karma for the profound profundity to ponder.

 

[Spike]

Ebola patients lied, people died.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

All citizens must prove they have health insurance but not everyone has to prove they are citizens.

That just screams Orwell. "All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
Creepy.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Holy cow, that's awesome. Just ponder that for a minute. What a screwed up country we are. Karma for the profound profundity to ponder.

I can't take credit for that, it supposedly came from Ben Stein.

 

[Yinzerlyn]

Ben Stein is genius.

 

[hamster]

Ben Stein is genius.

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[Ironcitysteelers]

Ebola Scare on Flight From Philly

By DAN STAMM
Oct 10, 2014 08:37 AM



A man on a flight that left Philadelphia for an island paradise triggered a caught-on-camera Ebola scare on his plane when he reportedly sneezed and said, "I have Ebola."

US Airways Flight 845 left Philadelphia en route to Punta Cana, Dominican Republic, just after 10 a.m. Wednesday. When it arrived shortly after 1 p.m. local time, passengers were told to stay on the plane as crews in hazmat suits came onto the aircraft.

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The flight "was met yesterday by local officials upon landing due to a possible health issue on board," US Air said in a statement afterward.

"We are following the direction of, and strictly adhering to, all Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines in place for airlines in response to the Ebola virus," the airline added.

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An unidentified 54-year-old man had allegedly said "I have Ebola, you are all screwed," Dominican newspaper Diario Libre reported.

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That led to the hazmat suit-clad workers boarding the plane, in a moment captured on passenger video.

"I think the man who said this is an idiot," said a flight attendant addressing passengers shortly before the workers came on board.

US Air said the flight was checked, and vacationers were allowed to go on their way.

“We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused, but the safety of our customers and employees is our first priority," the airline added.

It wasn’t immediately clear whether the passenger, who according to reports had no history of travel to Ebola-stricken parts of West Africa, was charged.



Photo Credit: Patrick Narvaez
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[CharlesDavenport]

I don't understand the arguments against banning flights - http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ebola-CDC-travel-ban/2014/10/10/id/599868/

I've heard:

Will force people to go underground - So what.

Will make it more difficult to respond - No it won't. Can still fly people that need to get in and out to help, and those flights can be properly controlled.

Will make it difficult to track people who find other ways to move between countries - So what. Is the argument that we make it easy to transmit the disease on a massive scale just so that it will be easier to track?

This is a good one -

When a wildfire breaks out we don't fence it off. We go in to extinguish it before one of the random sparks sets off another outbreak somewhere else," he said.

We would absolutely fence it off if that was possible. What an idiotic analogy.

None of the way we are responding to this threat makes any sense.

 

[MT~Forged]

Apparently they have never heard of a fire break. When putting out a fire, you try to surround the fire with a fire break, then you proceede to stomp the **** out of EVERYTHING in the affected area.

 

[madinsomniac]

I want to know if it is transmittable by misquito. my 2nd biggest fear right now next to straight up air transmittable is this... I get bit a ton :/

 

[Confluence]

That just screams Orwell. "All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
Creepy.

There is always a first among equals..

Some of y'alls are really bad at the communist/socialist stuff.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

There is always a first among equals..

Some of y'alls are really bad at the communist/socialist stuff.

We are not Canadian, therefore we have less experience with it.

 

[Confluence]

We are not Canadian, therefore we have less experience with it.

yinz dumbasses are catching up quick.

 

[Rod Farva]

I don't understand the arguments against banning flights - http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ebola-CDC-travel-ban/2014/10/10/id/599868/

I've heard:

Will force people to go underground - So what.

Will make it more difficult to respond - No it won't. Can still fly people that need to get in and out to help, and those flights can be properly controlled.

Will make it difficult to track people who find other ways to move between countries - So what. Is the argument that we make it easy to transmit the disease on a massive scale just so that it will be easier to track?

This is a good one - We would absolutely fence it off if that was possible. What an idiotic analogy.

None of the way we are responding to this threat makes any sense.

The only answer is political correctness and a show of how humanitarian we are.

 

[Confluence]

Hey, I think it's a great idea to give very expensive and difficult-to-obtain medical care to people who know they have the disease, lie about it, and come to the U.S. illegally to get the treatment, without a ******* nickel to cover the costs and without having paid a goddam dime for medical care or medical insurance their entire lives.

That could not possibly encourage others to do the same, now, could it? And bringing in Ebola infected Africans to our country ... what possible harm could that cause???

As my buddy's Dad used to say (a lot) : Holy Mexicans!

 

[CharlesDavenport]

A healthcare worker who attended to Duncan has Ebola. http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/ebola/index.html This is the first transmission in the US. Get ready for more, because we just are not treating it like the deadly problem that it is. From - http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/is-protective-gear-inadequate-to-stop-ebola/?cat_orig=health

All strains of Ebola are Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) pathogens, Level 4 being the highest virulence designation for infectious agents. To convey an idea of just how dangerous BSL-4 pathogens are: When a laboratory facility is built with the intention of housing BSL-4 pathogens, the entire structure must be designed to unbelievably exacting specifications. Generally, this winds up costing thousands of dollars more per square foot than for BSL-2 or BSL-3 agents, or for a laboratory that is not designed for infectious disease research...

...The key to the effectiveness of BSL-4 personal protective equipment (PPE) comes down to two things: One is the impenetrability of the material of which the suit is constructed. They’re very tough, heavy flexible polymers that one would have to work very hard to puncture or cut. Two is the High-efficiency Particulate Air (HEPA) filter; forced-air, powered units which provide filtered air to the individual in the suit. There is no chance for the intrusion of ambient air. A decent HEPA filter in good repair will filter out viruses. Many BSL-4 suits used in laboratory applications actually have hoses that provide dedicated airflow from outside the work area, forcing the worker to remain tethered to their air supply.

Yet, most of the photographs available (and there are plenty) of doctors, aid workers, and now American military personnel working with Ebola and Ebola patients in West Africa do not show them wearing BSL-4 PPEs.

Occasionally, one finds a worker with some BSL-4 equipment, usually a filtered air unit worn on the back, and a sealed hood – but this appears to be the exception, not the rule.

The vast majority of these workers are demonstrably ill-protected; one can see this for themselves – if one knows what to look for. Obviously, most people don’t.

Most of the personnel in these photos are wearing Biosafety Level 3 (BSL-3) personal protective equipment. This is a markedly less effective barrier than BSL-4 protection – which makes sense, since the industry employs such designations in the first place.

Pretty sure this healthcare worker wasn't wearing BSL-4 gear. Neither were her neighbors, friends, or anyone else who came in contact with her after she got infected.

They better be suiting up our military folks over there appropriately.

In the case of responders who live in impoverished nations areas affected by Ebola, obviously we understand that they have to make do with what they have, unfortunate though it may be. However, sending American doctors, aid workers, and military personnel into seething cesspools of virulence and skimping on precautionary measures given what we know – and don’t know – is nothing short of criminal.

 

[Yinzerlyn]

And this is why people SHOULD be concerned about it, and NOT laughing at those of us who are concerned. I KNEW someone else would get infected by Duncan. I KNEW it....especially since he lied to get over here and lied when he went to the hospital the first time.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

And this is why people SHOULD be concerned about it, and NOT laughing at those of us who are concerned. I KNEW someone else would get infected by Duncan. I KNEW it....especially since he lied to get over here and lied when he went to the hospital the first time.

Yeah, they are trying to tell us it isn't contagious during the incubation period. I'm sure it is more contagious later, but it would be a one magical virus that somehow knew when the host was exhibiting symptoms and only then decided to be contagious.

 

[Yinzerlyn]

Yeah, they are trying to tell us it isn't contagious during the incubation period. I'm sure it is more contagious later, but it would be a one magical virus that somehow knew when the host was exhibiting symptoms and only then decided to be contagious.

Aren't most viruses the most contagious during the incubation period?

 

[Yinzerlyn]

Yeah, they are trying to tell us it isn't contagious during the incubation period. I'm sure it is more contagious later, but it would be a one magical virus that somehow knew when the host was exhibiting symptoms and only then decided to be contagious.

Aren't most viruses the most contagious during the incubation period?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

The only answer is political correctness and a show of how humanitarian we are.

And that somehow we owe them.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Aren't most viruses the most contagious during the incubation period?

Think so. Depends on the virus. Didn't know any that weren't contagious at all during that period.

 

[Yinzerlyn]

Think so. Depends on the virus. Didn't know any that weren't contagious at all during that period.

That's what I thought. So people are gonna think it's OK to be around ebola in the incubation period because our Gov't is saying it is.....we are ******.

 

[Confluence]

How come only one person now affected in Dallas, and none in Brussels where dude transited?

This may be differentially transmittable, and that would suck for some/many, but more people should have been infected by now if this was spreading geometrically.

There is clearly more to the story of how this virus moves.