I think I finally hit the 5th stage of grief--acceptance..It's over. There is no doubt the cheat was in but it's over. Hopefully this will lead to more secure elections but I doubt it will. The country as we knew it is long dead anyways...
Election Day 2020
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I'm not in any type of grief. I'm in finding of facts mode, but considering what we're dealing with and time is of the essence? I'd say it's a rough go. Some things are worth fighting for in life. There is no regroup and come back later to address this. That time is now. It's not like we're going to have some type of unity with the leaders of this party. That ship sailed 4 years ago.
No reason why we can't act like the Democrats did the last four years.
True but we have to go to work and make a living. We'd also get arrested.
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become what you hate. thats what it would be like.
if trump is actually out. focus all energy on keeping the senate, get ready for 2024.
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hahaha. I'm thinking more along the lines of completely ignoring them as if they do not exist. As long as they stay out of my lane they can sow a dick to their forehead and calls themselves a unicorn for all I care.
It will be pretty easy to make fun of them. Maybe start impeachment proceedings in month one. ..haha
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For mostly peaceful protests? I guess the limit is under 5 billion in damage and theft before it becomes major.
I'm totally kidding. I completely hate their ******* guts for allowing that to go on. Great for me is that I'm far away from any horseshit. I do feel bad for others who are getting ****** 6 ways from Sunday in some of these states and big cities.
I look back at when the Republicans were in charge of both the House and Senate during Bammys last couple years. Did nothing. Had the House, Senate and Presidency for the first two years and they could do nothing more than get in Trumps way. At least the Senate worked hard to solidify the courts but except for a minority, the Republicans are as swampy as the Dems. The whole freaking system needs a giant enema and flush out the politicians and bureaucrats who are only in it for themselves and are great at either duping those who keep putting them back in office or rig their election or both
Its the uniparty theory..
Most of our politicians are either guys with no moral convictions trying to hold power, or globalists who play both sides of the coin... it won’t matter if one party holds everything or not... they play one side off the other and if one side has all the power they drag their feet and pass nothing.... its a con...
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It is comparable to 2000 only you are too dense to see it. The FL SC ruled that countries (especially dem counties) could keep counting ballots after election day. It was ILLEGAL because the constitution doesn't allow that. It gives authority to the state legislator and it can't be changed by a court. Same thing applies in PA. The court ruled that ballots could be counted regardless of when they arrived. It clearly violated the constitution of the U.S. by doing so. Which is why justice Alito made PA set aside the mail in ballots.
If the PA SC were so worried about votes then they should have known that the SC could strike down their ruling because it flies in the face of what they have ruled over and over again. They went against every election law on the books. So instead of following the law they legislated a new law which is unconstitutional.
It's not a loophole. It's black and white law from the start of the republic. I'm sorry you obviously don't understand that.
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Term limits would really help in flushing out the sludge on both sides. The gig would be up for both . A lot of solid citizens have been added to congress the last few years, but the old sludge swamp donkeys have been entrenched for 20,30,40+ years. Can you imagine the power and connections you'll achieve in that time? Corruption is an absolute with that much power for that long. Self preservation is the biggest motivation for these people. That's why we see the same old bs every election cycle from both sides...rise&repeat every few years.
So what I learned this weekend is you have an unconstitutional election in Pennsylvania and the court isn’t going to do anything about it. Sad
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We've had almost a year of unconstitutional power grabs all over the country by govenors. Destroyed life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
If you throw in the allowed destruction by mobs founded by marxists and commies, it's been a pretty ****** up year.
This election is the exclamation point on what's been going on for 4 years. The constitution is just something they use when it suits them,the rest of the time they either pervert it or ignore altogether. They make you have to fight them in court.
This is what the Left wants. They can't win at the polls with their initiatives. This is why the courts are so important to them. It's been said many times before, but they NEED the courts to push through their agendas the American public won't vote for. Therefore, people like Punx, argue that it's a "loophole" following the law. What dumb logic....the ballots cast were "real" therefore they should be counted "whenever" they come in...despite the obvious fact it goes against the law of the land or the state.
This IS how they think and want to operate.
I'd like some Liberal to explain away these anomalies. Or anyone, for that matter.
Reasons why the 2020 presidential election is deeply puzzling
To say out-loud that you find the results of the 2020 presidential election odd is to invite derision. You must be a crank or a conspiracy theorist. Mark me down as a crank, then. I am a pollster and I find this election to be deeply puzzling. I also think that the Trump campaign is still well within its rights to contest the tabulations. Something very strange happened in America’s democracy in the early hours of Wednesday November 4 and the days that followed. It’s reasonable for a lot of Americans to want to find out exactly what.
First, consider some facts. President Trump received more votes than any previous incumbent seeking reelection. He got 11 million more votes than in 2016, the third largest rise in support ever for an incumbent. By way of comparison, President Obama was comfortably reelected in 2012 with 3.5 million fewer votes than he received in 2008.
Trump’s vote increased so much because, according to exit polls, he performed far better with many key demographic groups. Ninety-five percent of Republicans voted for him. He did extraordinarily well with rural male working-class whites.
He earned the highest share of all minority votes for a Republican since 1960. Trump grew his support among black voters by 50 percent over 2016. Nationally, Joe Biden’s black support fell well below 90 percent, the level below which Democratic presidential candidates usually lose.
Trump increased his share of the national Hispanic vote to 35 percent. With 60 percent or less of the national Hispanic vote, it is arithmetically impossible for a Democratic presidential candidate to win Florida, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico. Bellwether states swung further in Trump’s direction than in 2016. Florida, Ohio and Iowa each defied America’s media polls with huge wins for Trump. Since 1852, only Richard Nixon has lost the electoral college after winning this trio, and that 1960 defeat to John F. Kennedy is still the subject of great suspicion.
Midwestern states Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin always swing in the same direction as Ohio and Iowa, their regional peers. Ohio likewise swings with Florida. Current tallies show that, outside of a few cities, the Rust Belt swung in Trump’s direction. Yet, Biden leads in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin because of an apparent avalanche of black votes in Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee. Biden’s ‘winning’ margin was derived almost entirely from such voters in these cities, as coincidentally his black vote spiked only in exactly the locations necessary to secure victory. He did not receive comparable levels of support among comparable demographic groups in comparable states, which is highly unusual for the presidential victor.
We are told that Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history. But he won a record low of 17 percent of counties; he only won 524 counties, as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes.
Victorious presidential candidates, especially challengers, usually have down-ballot coattails; Biden did not. The Republicans held the Senate and enjoyed a ‘red wave’ in the House, where they gained a large number of seats while winning all 27 toss-up contests. Trump’s party did not lose a single state legislature and actually made gains at the state level.
Another anomaly is found in the comparison between the polls and non-polling metrics. The latter include: party registrations trends; the candidates’ respective primary votes; candidate enthusiasm; social media followings; broadcast and digital media ratings; online searches; the number of (especially small) donors; and the number of individuals betting on each candidate.
Despite poor recent performances, media and academic polls have an impressive 80 percent record predicting the winner during the modern era. But, when the polls err, non-polling metrics do not; the latter have a 100 percent record. Every non-polling metric forecast Trump’s reelection. For Trump to lose this election, the mainstream polls needed to be correct, which they were not. Furthermore, for Trump to lose, not only did one or more of these metrics have to be wrong for the first time ever, but every single one had to be wrong, and at the very same time; not an impossible outcome, but extremely unlikely nonetheless.
Atypical voting patterns married with misses by polling and non-polling metrics should give observers pause for thought. Adding to the mystery is a cascade of information about the bizarre manner in which so many ballots were accumulated and counted.
The following peculiarities also lack compelling explanations:
1. Late on election night, with Trump comfortably ahead, many swing states stopped counting ballots. In most cases, observers were removed from the counting facilities. Counting generally continued without the observers
2. Statistically abnormal vote counts were the new normal when counting resumed. They were unusually large in size (hundreds of thousands) and had an unusually high (90 percent and above) Biden-to-Trump ratio
3. Late arriving ballots were counted. In Pennsylvania, 23,000 absentee ballots have impossible postal return dates and another 86,000 have such extraordinary return dates they raise serious questions
4. The failure to match signatures on mail-in ballots. The destruction of mail in ballot envelopes, which must contain signatures
5. Historically low absentee ballot rejection rates despite the massive expansion of mail voting. Such is Biden’s narrow margin that, as political analyst Robert Barnes observes, ‘If the states simply imposed the same absentee ballot rejection rate as recent cycles, then Trump wins the election’
6. Missing votes. In Delaware County, Pennsylvania, 50,000 votes held on 47 USB cards are missing
7. Non-resident voters. Matt Braynard’s Voter Integrity Project estimates that 20,312 people who no longer met residency requirements cast ballots in Georgia. Biden’s margin is 12,670 votes
8. Serious ‘chain of custody’ breakdowns. Invalid residential addresses. Record numbers of dead people voting. Ballots in pristine condition without creases, that is, they had not been mailed in envelopes as required by law
9. Statistical anomalies. In Georgia, Biden overtook Trump with 89 percent of the votes counted. For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch. It is particularly perplexing that all statistical anomalies and tabulation abnormalities were in Biden’s favor. Whether the cause was simple human error or nefarious activity, or a combination, clearly something peculiar happened.
If you think that only weirdos have legitimate concerns about these findings and claims, maybe the weirdness lies in you.
Reasons why the 2020 presidential election is deeply puzzling
To say out-loud that you find the results of the 2020 presidential election odd is to invite derision. You must be a crank or a conspiracy theorist. Mark me down as a crank, then. I am a pollster and I find this election to be deeply puzzling. I also think that the Trump campaign is still well within its rights to contest the tabulations. Something very strange happened in America’s democracy in the early hours of Wednesday November 4 and the days that followed. It’s reasonable for a lot of Americans to want to find out exactly what.
First, consider some facts. President Trump received more votes than any previous incumbent seeking reelection. He got 11 million more votes than in 2016, the third largest rise in support ever for an incumbent. By way of comparison, President Obama was comfortably reelected in 2012 with 3.5 million fewer votes than he received in 2008.
Trump’s vote increased so much because, according to exit polls, he performed far better with many key demographic groups. Ninety-five percent of Republicans voted for him. He did extraordinarily well with rural male working-class whites.
He earned the highest share of all minority votes for a Republican since 1960. Trump grew his support among black voters by 50 percent over 2016. Nationally, Joe Biden’s black support fell well below 90 percent, the level below which Democratic presidential candidates usually lose.
Trump increased his share of the national Hispanic vote to 35 percent. With 60 percent or less of the national Hispanic vote, it is arithmetically impossible for a Democratic presidential candidate to win Florida, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico. Bellwether states swung further in Trump’s direction than in 2016. Florida, Ohio and Iowa each defied America’s media polls with huge wins for Trump. Since 1852, only Richard Nixon has lost the electoral college after winning this trio, and that 1960 defeat to John F. Kennedy is still the subject of great suspicion.
Midwestern states Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin always swing in the same direction as Ohio and Iowa, their regional peers. Ohio likewise swings with Florida. Current tallies show that, outside of a few cities, the Rust Belt swung in Trump’s direction. Yet, Biden leads in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin because of an apparent avalanche of black votes in Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee. Biden’s ‘winning’ margin was derived almost entirely from such voters in these cities, as coincidentally his black vote spiked only in exactly the locations necessary to secure victory. He did not receive comparable levels of support among comparable demographic groups in comparable states, which is highly unusual for the presidential victor.
We are told that Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history. But he won a record low of 17 percent of counties; he only won 524 counties, as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes.
Victorious presidential candidates, especially challengers, usually have down-ballot coattails; Biden did not. The Republicans held the Senate and enjoyed a ‘red wave’ in the House, where they gained a large number of seats while winning all 27 toss-up contests. Trump’s party did not lose a single state legislature and actually made gains at the state level.
Another anomaly is found in the comparison between the polls and non-polling metrics. The latter include: party registrations trends; the candidates’ respective primary votes; candidate enthusiasm; social media followings; broadcast and digital media ratings; online searches; the number of (especially small) donors; and the number of individuals betting on each candidate.
Despite poor recent performances, media and academic polls have an impressive 80 percent record predicting the winner during the modern era. But, when the polls err, non-polling metrics do not; the latter have a 100 percent record. Every non-polling metric forecast Trump’s reelection. For Trump to lose this election, the mainstream polls needed to be correct, which they were not. Furthermore, for Trump to lose, not only did one or more of these metrics have to be wrong for the first time ever, but every single one had to be wrong, and at the very same time; not an impossible outcome, but extremely unlikely nonetheless.
Atypical voting patterns married with misses by polling and non-polling metrics should give observers pause for thought. Adding to the mystery is a cascade of information about the bizarre manner in which so many ballots were accumulated and counted.
The following peculiarities also lack compelling explanations:
1. Late on election night, with Trump comfortably ahead, many swing states stopped counting ballots. In most cases, observers were removed from the counting facilities. Counting generally continued without the observers
2. Statistically abnormal vote counts were the new normal when counting resumed. They were unusually large in size (hundreds of thousands) and had an unusually high (90 percent and above) Biden-to-Trump ratio
3. Late arriving ballots were counted. In Pennsylvania, 23,000 absentee ballots have impossible postal return dates and another 86,000 have such extraordinary return dates they raise serious questions
4. The failure to match signatures on mail-in ballots. The destruction of mail in ballot envelopes, which must contain signatures
5. Historically low absentee ballot rejection rates despite the massive expansion of mail voting. Such is Biden’s narrow margin that, as political analyst Robert Barnes observes, ‘If the states simply imposed the same absentee ballot rejection rate as recent cycles, then Trump wins the election’
6. Missing votes. In Delaware County, Pennsylvania, 50,000 votes held on 47 USB cards are missing
7. Non-resident voters. Matt Braynard’s Voter Integrity Project estimates that 20,312 people who no longer met residency requirements cast ballots in Georgia. Biden’s margin is 12,670 votes
8. Serious ‘chain of custody’ breakdowns. Invalid residential addresses. Record numbers of dead people voting. Ballots in pristine condition without creases, that is, they had not been mailed in envelopes as required by law
9. Statistical anomalies. In Georgia, Biden overtook Trump with 89 percent of the votes counted. For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch. It is particularly perplexing that all statistical anomalies and tabulation abnormalities were in Biden’s favor. Whether the cause was simple human error or nefarious activity, or a combination, clearly something peculiar happened.
If you think that only weirdos have legitimate concerns about these findings and claims, maybe the weirdness lies in you.
Some of that had to do with the fact that the first black president was treated with kid gloves by Congress. Any harsh criticisms or outspoken opposition to the Messiahs policies by a bunch of white men would have had the left spewing " they oppose Obama because he is black". The highest office in the land...what a good place to have black privilege.
When Trump had both houses the Russian Collusion hoax was in play. Trumps election being the shocker that it was, even Republicans honestly believed that the Russians could be involved and that Trumps election may be invalid. So they chose to be idle. But when it became evident to them that it was a hoax it was too late.
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and how precisely do you plan to beat dominion?
The dems are being given carte blanche to fix every election from here to the end of the country without opposition. We no longer have any kind of democracy. We're pretty much Venezuela at this point.
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The National Review just called Trump out over this election fraud nonsense.
Give me three years, $40 million and 19 conservative lawyers, and I'll find a ****-ton more than some schmoe committing tax fraud in 2008 and Roger Stone ... tweeting or something.
Meh. The National Review is the home of the never-Trumper Beltway Republicans. It's why their circulation is way down. **** 'em.
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