Well look at that. Perception = Reality.
Ferguson?
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Well look at that. Perception = Reality.
Well "I" do not care what "WE" think. "I" employ three truck drivers. Two of them are white. One has Confederate stickers on his pickup truck. He has worked for me for 3 years. He must have gotten the Al and Jesse memo. Everyone is responsible for themselves. I am 42 years old and I do not have problems with white people on a daily basis. You are a liar sir. Goodnight...
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I quoted your post where you talked about black people as a whole, then you turned it into you. "I'm not a tribe". Say dumb things get called dipshit.
Good find. That was beautiful. Amazing that things like that will never be shown on the national news.
I am not a member of a tribe refers to me not being responsible for all black people. How is that dumb??? I have my own family. Do you feel that you need to spend time apologizing or calling out people you do not know or never met??
I know this. When white racists get the national spotlight the loudest shouts to shut them up come from white people. Racist Al and Jesse have been doing their schtick for a long time. Polo's video was some of the first shouts from the black community I've seen.
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When the deck was stacked the other way it created the situation we have today, remember Jim Crowe? It has to be stacked this way now to help those who don't benefit from white privilege.
In your conservative mind you have blinders that only allow you to see the last frame of this cartoon.
The 5th frame is where guilt free white privilege resides. ' We don't do that now(Really?) so blacks get your act together'
Ignoring the first 4 frames............
Al and Jesse are washed up. I did not see them marching on TV in Ferguson . Those were people from the area. If someone was interested in shoving a camera in my face to ask questions about Al and Jesse, I would tell them that they do not speak for me. I speak for me. I am damn good at it too..
When the deck was stacked the other way it created the situation we have today, remember Jim Crowe? It has to be stacked this way now to help those who don't benefit from white privilege.
In your conservative mind you have blinders that only allow you to see the last frame of this cartoon.
The 5th frame is where guilt free white privilege resides. ' We don't do that now(Really?) so blacks get your act together'
Ignoring the first 4 frames............
If every black person in America were given 1 million dollars, do you think that would end black poverty? Do you think that the steps we've taken for affirmative action have helped black people?
6blings is my bud. He's posted here for years and is one guy I'd let buy me a beer.
Yet they continue to garner MSM attention and drive the discussion
Driven out on some lame YouTube video vs. having Matt Lauer sit Jesse Jackson down and call him a fraud on their Liberal propaganda network is the issue.
You earn no kudos with that post. When you post ABC pointing out that Sharpton is a shill, or Jackson is a race baiter, then I'll listen.
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Despite affirmative action and public assistance, the situation hasn't improved. In fact in some ways it's gotten worse. I wonder how long we'll keep doing the same things and expecting different results? All we've done is trap people in a cycle of economic dependence.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-white-economic-gap-hasnt-budged-in-50-years/
I have heard of La Raza and all about their socialist policies. I have read articles and seen news reports ( from a few years ago) that stated specifically that Latinos were NOT allowed to join the NAACP because they were not black.
A student at GA State University (white) was NOT allowed to start a WHITE Student Union, even though Whites make up only 33% of the school's population. He said that every other race was afforded the right to have a Student Union based solely on race, and also because whites are a minority at that school that he felt he should be allowed to have a White Student Union. The school denied his request saying that he would have to include all races.
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La Raza means "The Race." Think about it....THE race.....could anyone imagine any outcry if honkies referred to themselves in any way as THE race?
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http://nypost.com/2014/08/19/witnesses-say-ferguson-teen-attacked-cop-before-shooting/
Isn't it interesting that you challenge the witnesses? "You'd like to read up on it" so you can attempt to discredit the witnesses. You immediately dismiss any potential witnesses that may have been with law enforcement (as if their testimony would have to be tainted). Yet, on the other hand, you're willing to accept witnesses that knew Brown, were with Brown, or simply sympathize with Brown that also have motive to lie.
To this point every witness can be discredited, on both sides, for "guilt by association". Dorian Johnson, like Michael Brown, was a common street thug, with a record, with a warrant out for his arrest, and had previously been caught lying. He's also admitted to lying in this instance. HIS words led to the rioting and looting. His lies. But...somehow he's to be believed over a police officer? Got ya.
Every witness that says Brown was shot in the back has been discredited by the autopsy...not a single entry wound from Brown's back.
So go on...try to discredit these witnesses who support the police because they have an agenda. And I'll point to Dorian and Michael's friends, and everyone in the hood that has an agenda as well. That tactic of yours, to discredit witnesses, has to be used EQUALLY (you're favorite word), not selectively.
On another note, how do you discredit the background audio in the YouTube video taken by the "brother" with Brown lying dead in the street? The one where another brother's heard discussing Michael charging the officer, he kept coming...
You appear to want to be viewed as objective, yet you will only accept witness accounts and evidence that support the theory that Brown was innocently murdered.
So many wanna believe the original story, the passive, church-going, poor innocent Michael Brown was murdered in cold blood by the cops. Instead, stories like this make me believe the officer with the perfectly clean record shot in self defense against the accused murderer and Crip.
I may still be proven wrong, but if one had to deduce, the "likely" story is the Officer's at this point, not Brown's...not when you consider their characters and records, the characters and records of the witnesses, and the plausibility of the two stories, one which is very far fetched (dragging a 300lb man into your car), one which is believable self defense. Again, I could be wrong, but logic doesn't stack at this point on Brown's side.
Theres been people all over this story...what is very interesting is these WITNESSES that corroborate Wilsons story, got the information from who ? Darren himself ...a friend of a significant other of WIlsons said she was told by................the fact is, NONE OF THESE folks were present when Office Wilson shot Brown...or were they ? Eyewitness is quite different than "secondhand hearsay".....what a joke. And im supposed to have a serious discussion about this matter with folk like you ? Utter bullshit man...im sorry but that information you presented, you KNEW could be dissected and torn apart. BTW Christine Byers (who produced a TWEET) is on FMLA leave and was when the tweet was sent...and the Dispatch isnt substantiating the tweet at all. But her **** is being posted on many sites as factual and folks are running with it...like the orbital bone fracture he sustained
SO, im to believe someone NOT AT THE SCENE over established eyewitnesses whom YOU believe are biased ? Quite simply, this is the most egregious projection of bovine **** ive heard in recent years. Im actually tickled because you expect me to take this **** seriously.
Wilson may be imparting his version of the story to a dozen people, but the fact remains...its still only his story.
As for the gangmember story, ive yet to find any credible data confirming he was a member of a gang.....no main media outlet has produced the story and im awaiting the outcome of the lawsuit to produce records of Michael Brown....(and he certainly wouldnt be associated with the Crips notable colors are blue, not red....the area he lived in was most likely affiliated wth some of the Bloods). But it still doesnt give Wilson the right to shoot and kill because he was affiliated with a gang. I understand YOU probably wish that all gang members be shot on sight but thats not appropriate and thats not smart policing.
At this point whatever facts are born, the cop, right or wrong will likely not serve any time or if he does will serve minimal time 12-18 months. WE ALL KNOW THAT...black or white.
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The evidence that is being presented to the grand jury has not been released. The only witnesses we have heard from are the ones who voluntarily came forward publicly. We have no idea if there are corroborating eyewitnesses who have not splashed themselves all over the media. Obviously, someone who's story is "Darren told me this is what happened" would not qualify as a witness in any sort of legal proceeding.
You know these things? You know these 12 witnesses weren't eyewitnesses? Please, provide a link. And you're sure that the eyewitnesses that support the "Brown was murdered" twist are all telling the truth? We KNOW Dorian Johnson lied. Yet you believe these witnesses? Please, corroborate.
Some of these eyewitnesses you are choosing to believe are biased. They've admitted they lied. They've proven they are biased. Dorian Johnson lied. Was the man in the background audio of the YouTube video while Brown's body lay in the street lying about Brown rushing the cop? You have the audio right there. He was an eyewitness, correct?
I'll repeat again, this is what you believe, not what you know.
You'll notice the stories say they are filing a suit to produce the records because there is a fight to keep them hidden, because they fear what will occur if they are released. His parents say he was clean. If he was clean, why don't they produce the records? Why are they fighting to keep them hidden? Unless there is something to hide. Can you answer that? It's just logic.
No, it doesn't and you can find other posts I've made that echo the following. IF Wilson murdered him, he should rot in jail for it. Period. I'm very against many things our police departments are doing across the country. I have big issues with their conduct in many instances. But we don't know (well you believe you do) what happened here yet.
You don't know **** about what I want, stand for or am about. You making such a statement shows you to be judgmental and that you're prone to knee jerk reactions, as evident in the rest of your posts. What I want, if you care to hear, is justice, across the board. For Brown if he was murdered, for the white man killed by the black police officer in Utah, for the white man brutally beaten in Denny's recently - for all of them. Not this "select" sense of justice where only blacks can be victims. That is my beef. Treat the cases equally.
In other words, no matter what evidence is produced, you will believe what you want to believe.
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If you are just joining this thread, and don't have the time to read 44 pages, please allow me to sum it up..........
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My cousins-best friend's nieces daughter was there! Well not her, but her hairdresser. And she saw exactly what happened, well what she could see from 280 yards away from behind a bunch of trees. But man I'm telling you she was there, and when she came rushing up on the scene (who doesn't run TO the sound of gunfire??) she talked to a guy she knew from Junior High School that has been out on parole for the past week and he said he saw the cop firing a machine gun at Bishop Brown. Bishop Brown was pleading and crying for that mean *** cop not to shoot him, but the cop started yelling I ******* hate all black people. Then he pulled out his machine gun and shot Bishop Brown 849 times. Then that mean *** cop ran over his body with an MRAP! I'm telling anyone who will listen that this just isn't right and we will not stand for it. I also heard, but I have not confirmed that that bully cop called out to Bishop Brown to come over to his car to ask for directions, and when Bishop Brown complied that cop sprayed him with mace. It's all good though, we are going to set this **** straight by burning down local businesses where we have seen cops before.
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You aren't suggesting that FNGs be comped racist status, are you? That isn't fair to those that have worked for it. Racist.
Hey, I have a theory that my gut is yelling at me and my head doesn't want to believe. I was all fine with the "Racist White Stormtrooper Guns Down Innocent Hospice Volunteer in White Supremacist Rite" narrative. It was a good distraction from Gaza and ISIS and was pulling strong ratings across all demographics. N all the celebrities came and made their speeches and it was all good. But then they started the voter registration drive and it went all stinky. And I wasn't even listening to my gut until this dem gubnor went all "We gotta vigorously persecute, I mean prosecute this Racist White Stormtrooper" cause it just advanced the narrative and it was all good cause somebody gotta pay, right? N ah da peeps say "a-min". But then they start in on this McCulloch guy cause his Dad was killed by the hood and I was all "that sucks". But the dem gubnor said he wasn't going to appoint another persecutor, I mean prosecutor. Then the gut started. N I looked this McCulloch up to find he's a dem too. So that splians the not going to appoint another persecutor, I mean prosecutor part. Now I realize that looters and other lowlife need to vote, but that voter registration drive was sticking in my craw. Then the State funeral and more speeches and the media homage and those media stunads just can't play a good hand of cards. Now "Racist White Stormtrooper Guns Down Innocent Hospice Volunteer in White Supremacist Rite" is a factor in the midterms. "They could even keep the Senate". And my gut was all "Naw, you don't suppose...".
You don't suppose. Naw! And I was hoping we could all just get along.
See!? See!?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/31/us/getting-ferguson-majority-to-show-its-clout-at-polls.html?_r=0
Getting Ferguson Majority to Show Its Clout at Polls
By MONICA DAVEYAUG. 30, 2014
FERGUSON, Mo. — Down the street from where the body of Michael Brown lay for hours after he was shot three weeks ago, volunteers have appeared beside folding tables under fierce sunshine to sign up new voters. On West Florissant Avenue, the site of sometimes violent nighttime protests for two weeks, voter-registration tents popped up during the day and figures like the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson Sr. lectured about the power of the vote.
In this small city, which is two-thirds African-American but has mostly white elected leaders, only 12 percent of registered voters took part in the last municipal election, and political experts say black turnout was very likely lower. But now, in the wake of the killing of Mr. Brown, an unarmed black 18-year-old, by a white Ferguson police officer, there is a new focus on promoting the power of the vote, an attempt to revive one of the keystones of the civil rights movement.
Blah, blah, blah...
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Thanks Supe! Yep, started posting here in the mid 90s. Damn, time gets on down the road on you....
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Speaking of distractions, how are all those Reich Wing predictions coming along as far the ACA? Are premiums going through the roof yet as they claimed they would by now? Has the whole medical system fallen apart yet?
No, what actually happened is more Americans now have health insurance and that will save us money in the long run...so...
blah,blah, blah, to you too. The only difference is you guys make up scenarios when it comes to the president's motives, in the case of the right when it comes to making up ****, it's the truth, they do.
THE WEBSITE ISN"T WORKING SEE IT"S A CLUSTERFUCK! OH THE HUMANITY! PEOPLE MIGHT BE HELPED! LET'S PRAY IT'S NEVER FIXED! OHHHHHH..NOOOOOO! WHAT THE WEBSITE IS WORKING??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
PEOPLE MUST BE PUNISHED FOR BEING POOR!
WOMEN SHOULD BE FORCED TO HAVE BABIES AND AFTER THEY HAVE THEM, **** EM WHO CARES! WHAT'S HAPPENING TO MY COUNTRY? I WANT MY UNCOMPASSIONATE HATEFUL COUNTRY BACK!
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If you think The ACA is so great you want to pay my medical expenses? Thanks to ACA I had to stay on my companies crappy but ACA compliant plan when I could have gone on my wife's plan. Between my daughter just being diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes and having type 2 myself we are paying $360 a month for our insurance and then shelling out over $6500 a year in out of pocket expenses minimum. If I could be on my wife's plan we would pay $180 a month and a total of $2000 out of pocket. Thanks to language in the ACA the only way to do that would be for me to quit or my company to offer no one insurance. Great options! On top of that our premiums have increased by a total of 65 percent over the last 4 years. So shut the **** up about how ******* great the ACA is, it is a shithole that should be flushed down the ******* drain along with Obama. That has nothing to do with the color of his skin just that he has screwed me and my family!
We also had a $30,000 dollar hospital bill for 4 days in the hospital for my daughter when she was diagnosed and was in ketoacidosis. I thought the ACA was supposed to change **** like that.
