Fire Tomlin, hire Gruden

[Coryea]

Of course I'd do it, but the Rooneys would risk the super long coaching deal we have to keep hearing about, as if it is some kind of massive accomplishment...."The Rooneys have only had 3 coaches in over 50 years." We hear that stat like 5 x a year, every year. And it makes Rooney puff out his chest, like it's a major accomplishment.

Agreed, he's not going to want to be the guy that fired/traded a future HOF coach away.

 

[Lloyd]

Agreed, he's not going to want to be the guy that fired/traded a future HOF coach away.

We are not in a good spot. Fraudlin is safe and it just causes further desertion into the depths of denial. He's not gonna change a thing. His obsession into all things turnovers will continue without improving a damn thing with the offense or defense.

 

[Coryea]

We are not in a good spot. Fraudlin is safe and it just causes further desertion into the depths of denial. He's not gonna change a thing. His obsession into all things turnovers will continue without improving a damn thing with the offense or defense.

Yep, he was asked about running the ball so much in his presser today, he said well running lends itself to not be as dangerous as throwing the ball, something to that effect.

 

[CoolieMan]

It's hard to tell with Coolie, the dumbass he tends to be...

what? coolie is the smartest and funniest poster here

 

[Lloyd]

Yep, he was asked about running the ball so much in his presser today, he said well running lends itself to not be as dangerous as throwing the ball, something to that effect.

I'd expect nothing less. Scared to f---- death.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Yep, he was asked about running the ball so much in his presser today, he said well running lends itself to not be as dangerous as throwing the ball, something to that effect.

He wanted to keep the ball out of Burrow's hands. No only did we stink at running the ball, but the Bengals had the ball for 38 minutes. SMH.

 

[Coryea]

He wanted to keep the ball out of Burrow's hands. No only did we stink at running the ball, but the Bengals had the ball for 38 minutes. SMH.

Eventhough Russ had one of the best games of his career last time throwing vs Cincy.

 

[Steeltime]

You could get 2 1st round picks for Tomlin easily, the way the national media talks this guy up, absolutely some team would trade multiple picks for him, including multiple 1sts. I do that in a heart beat.

I don't think NFL front offices think the same way as the knob-polishing media. The media love Mediocre Mike because he talks a great game, gives them plenty of material for the broadcast, and is always willing to talk. NFL front offices know the truth behind Mediocre Mike, e.g., he is a game manager at best and will never succeed without an overwhelming talent advantage.

 

[Steelmann]

Yep, he was asked about running the ball so much in his presser today, he said well running lends itself to not be as dangerous as throwing the ball, something to that effect.

I heard it as well. It’s almost like he’s had his hand controlling the offense all these years as well. Who would have thunk it?

 

[SteelerFan448]

I don't think NFL front offices think the same way as the knob-polishing media. The media love Mediocre Mike because he talks a great game, gives them plenty of material for the broadcast, and is always willing to talk. NFL front offices know the truth behind Mediocre Mike, e.g., he is a game manager at best and will never succeed without an overwhelming talent advantage.

Arthur Smith and Matt Nagy are getting interviews this cycle. Front offices from around the league would line up and throw a ton of money at Mike Tomlin.

 

[SojournerSteel]

The Steelers and Tomlin are rapidly becoming a punchline as the worst "good" team you've ever seen.

Tomlin legitimately comes across as a complete caricature of someone of average intelligence trying to act really smart.

How can someone so smart coach this dumb?

About to make it 8 years without a playoff win and doubling up the longest dry spells from both Noll and Cowher.

The franchise is in a really bad place and painted themselves into a corner with this relic in an era made for offense.

 

[TimesAreChanged]

I’ll attempt this answer. First of all I will state Jackson has had a frigging fantastic season,I can’t understand anyone who doesn’t acknowledge this.
I think when it comes to Jackson,the critics look at his post season play. And until he gets over that hump he will never be perceived as “The best in the game today”. Josh Allen will go through this too. Heck,Marino,Tarkenton, Jim Kelly and a host of others would have been in the next tier with a SB win. Jackson is no different.

Since you don’t like novels,the answer to your question is quite simple. With Jackson’s exceptional ability to run,along with a RB who had a great season,if a team drops back to protect the pass,Jackson will rush for 2000 yards himself. And King Henry for another 2000.

I agree with you. Someone here said Jackson is not a passer.

Jackson is leading the league in YPA in rush & pass is nuts, #1 in rating, and #1 with 40-4 TD/int is all without precedent.

Agree about the Pass D. Someone tried to use the style of defense he faces as a knock against him. Jackson forces the D to play his game. I enjoy watching him as well as Daniels now. They're moving the game forward.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Arthur Smith and Matt Nagy are getting interviews this cycle. Front offices from around the league would line up and throw a ton of money at Mike Tomlin.

I think colleges would throw even more. Tomlin would crush it recruiting. Belichick went to North Carolina because with NIL coaches are no longer going to recruits homes and pretending to like mom’s secret recipe chicken. It is more like being a GM.

Winning in college is about 80% recruiting. Tomlin’s NFL record and his personality would bring lots of top talent.

 

[jiminoh]

I think colleges would throw even more. Tomlin would crush it recruiting. Belichick went to North Carolina because with NIL coaches are no longer going to recruits homes and pretending to like mom’s secret recipe chicken. It is more like being a GM.

Winning in college is about 80% recruiting. Tomlin’s NFL record and his personality would bring lots of top talent.

Absolutely.

 

[Lloyd]

Arthur Smith and Matt Nagy are getting interviews this cycle. Front offices from around the league would line up and throw a ton of money at Mike Tomlin.

And the Fraudulent one would just love the attention and chance to say some fancy quips to the media, they would just love it.

 

[wig]

At this point after the Rats lay a 40 burger on the Steelers maybe they’ll at least just begin to ponder a trade scenario and try to remember what being relevant really means.

[Sarcasm-font]Dude, do you even KNOW your Steelers history?
When was the last time the Steelers lost out in the first round?

I'll wait.[/Sarcasm-font]

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Eventhough Russ had one of the best games of his career last time throwing vs Cincy.

If an opponent has a weakness Mike runs from it

We run into burning buildings, not out of them
We try to leap rivers, we don’t need no freakin’ bridges- future Mike Tomlin quote

 

[Coryea]

If an opponent has a weakness Mike runs from it

We run into burning buildings, not out of them
We try to leap rivers, we don’t need no freakin’ bridges- future Mike Tomlin quote

LOL, they know that we know, that they now, that we now.

 

[Coryea]

The Steelers and Tomlin are rapidly becoming a punchline as the worst "good" team you've ever seen.

Tomlin legitimately comes across as a complete caricature of someone of average intelligence trying to act really smart.

How can someone so smart coach this dumb?

About to make it 8 years without a playoff win and doubling up the longest dry spells from both Noll and Cowher.

The franchise is in a really bad place and painted themselves into a corner with this relic in an era made for offense.

The longest Cowher went without a playoff win was 3 years I think, 98, 99, 00 and fans and media were wanting him gone.

 

[SojournerSteel]

Given the reason Gruden was fired I feel pretty confident that he will never coach the Steelers.

Dude is radioactive by all known Steeler monitoring instruments. They'd rather close shop than hire Gruden. Meanwhile they'll give any riff raff player a second or third chance.

 

[Lunar]

Tomlin is the Steelers as long as he wants to be. He could be coach in 2030.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Tomlin is the Steelers as long as he wants to be. He could be coach in 2030.

Will be the coach in 2030

Fixed that for ya

After we beat the Rats guaranteed 6 more years

 

[insaniti]

Jackson is top 10 in all categories. And he leads the lead in rating and turnovers and the most important one...YPA.

4000 yards, 41 TD and 4 picks is a sick stat line with 9YPA

Baltimore has 4000 pass & 3000 rush yards. Is that run centric?

Philly 3000 pass and 3000 rush. Runcentric?

Yup, literally the top two teams in the league in rushing. One averaging 188 yards again, the other 180 yards a game. The next closest team is the Commanders at 160 yards a game. Lets change to rush attempts, and the top two teams are yet again the Ravens and Eagles, 621 attempts for the Eagles and 554 for the Ravens. The next closest team is Detroit with 534 attempts and the Steelers at 533 attempts. So I guess we need to bring in the passing stats to show if they are pass or run centric...

The Ravens rank second to last at 477 attempts, while the Eagles are last with 448 attempts. This would lead one to believe, if you can do basic math that is, that both the Ravens and Eagles RUN the ball FAR more often than they pass the ball. Making both of them run first teams. What is interesting is that both teams feature QB's that can run the ball, and the top two RB's in the league this year. Teams will tend to load the box and play single coverage on the back end, making much easier reads. And if you have a creative OC, he can scheme those guys WIDE OPEN much easier.

 

[TimesAreChanged]

Basic math isn't enough to make a thorough analysis. Assuming Bengals were a top passing team by any metric because they had a top 5 QB would be correct... but how often were they trailing in Q4 when passing was their only option to make a comeback.

I'm just looking at your numbers, I wouldn't say Baltimore runs far more than they pass, but I would say that about Philadelphia. Also a team that has 4000 passing yards doesn't sound "runcentric" to me. Their QB is averaging 9YPA and their top back 6 yards per rush. These are nutty numbers. Looking closer the QB is also averaging 6YPA rushing...

Looking strictly at Baltimore's offensive numbers, they shouldn't lose a game but they did because the back of their defense sucked for half a season. The game has changed forever because of these guys and I'm enjoying it

I get your gist though

 

[TimesAreChanged]

We are not taking into consideration designed QB runs. Let's look at this again Sunday..there will be 8 teams left