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I am officially on the KP8 train

I'll bet the Cowboys sure are glad they did not give up on Troy Aikman after his rookie year. Go back and watch the Cowboys games from Troy's rookie season, you guys would have been saying the same thing about him and calling him a bust. They only thing he ever did was go on and win 3 Super Bowls and become a HOF'er. Please Stop trying to figure out how good KP's going to be or not be based on his rookie season. And please quit saying he would have been there at pick #52. there is no way you know this! I personally wanted them to use the top two picks last year on the DL and OL and wait until this year's draft to get a QB, but the more I watch KP play the more I like him. Will he be our next franchise QB? I don't know, but you don't know whether he will or won't be either. How about we wait and see what happens after a couple of years, if he does not pan out, then by all means tear him and our front office apart if that makes you feel better! But until we know for sure what we have in him, give the kid a chance to prove himself.
 
slashsteel said:
Perhaps Kenny was their top value at need positions. You are doing a lot of assuming and trying to play it off as more than that.

Yeah we see how well Mitch and Rudy worked for the team. When your franchise retires you stock the position. You don't just make do.
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If Pickett was on top their board at 20 then Colbert should have retired years ago.
 
ianv2012 said:
You keep pairing fact with likely and then think I'm the one who requires a definition of terms. The two ideas don't speak to one another, it doesn't matter when other QBs went, Pickett is not them and you don't know where Pickett was valued by other organizations. Keep it up Coach Lite
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It’s called inductive reasoning. Go look it up. I am really surprised on how truly stupid you actually are.
 
F for the defense you earned it *********.
 
FordFairLane said:
It’s called inductive reasoning. Go look it up. I am really surprised on how truly stupid you actually are.
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It's amazing how everyone who disagrees with you and shows flaws in your logic you always accuse of being dumb. That should tell you, maybe it isn't everyone else that's dumb 😆
 
jitter77 said:
I think there was consensus that Pickett was the safest and most pro ready QB. Other QBs may have higher potential, but were more risky. Mac Jones is like Pickett in my opinion, and he has been up and down. Lawrence was pegged as a cant miss generational talent and has not lived up to that yet. Wilson seems to have a maturity issue and has been replaced by White. Lance was a head scratching pick IMO and hasnt been on the field enough to judge. Fields has been looking better lately, but still too early to judge any of these guys.

We have no clue where Pickett would have ended up if we passed on him. I remember we were all dreading Willis being there when we picked and taking him and we ended up being able to choose whoever. It was not a reach for Pickett and no way w/o a time machine to say he would have been there when we picked again.
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I agree that the accolades for Pickett was supposed to be high floor and the most ready being a 5 year player for Pitt. But he wasn’t a consensus top QB. In 2020 you won’t find a single draft expert saying Burrow wasn’t the top QB. In 2021 you won’t find one saying Trevor Lawrence wasn’t the top guy. In 2022 there wasn’t a consensus. Pickett, Willis, Corral, Ridder and Howell.
 
ianv2012 said:
It's amazing how everyone who disagrees with you and shows flaws in your logic you always accuse of being dumb. That should tell you, maybe it isn't everyone else that's dumb 😆
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I have yet to hear a single factual argument. Same mouth breathers regurgitating an opinion that steelers can do no wrong.
 
Who cares. KP is our QB for the next 3 years at least. Get used to it. He has definitely improved and has tremendous work ethic. Give the kid a chance. But, I know, you haven't called him a bust. Wink. Wink.
 
slashsteel said:
That is highly debatable.
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I have 20 years of comparison. I’m not vastly better but I also don’t have access to the scouting reports, film, and medical reports he does. And I do it as a hobby not a living.
 
FordFairLane said:
I have 20 years of comparison. I’m not vastly better but I also don’t have access to the scouting reports, film, and medical reports he does. And I do it as a hobby not a living.
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You aren't a little bit better. Let's be honest here.
 
FordFairLane said:
I have yet to hear a single factual argument. Same mouth breathers regurgitating an opinion that steelers can do no wrong.
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Actually you have heard plenty of factual and reality based arguments, you've just refused to accept it, because as usual your own view is paramount and is never wrong. Do you jar your own farts to sniff later or do you bend over to sniff your farts fresh out of the oven?
 
FordFairLane said:
I have yet to hear a single factual argument. Same mouth breathers regurgitating an opinion that steelers can do no wrong.
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it's a real fact you will never know if any team would have moved up for Pickett if the Steelers passed on him, so stop it now please. A guy as knowledgeable as you shouldn't be so stubborn, just cut your loses and move on
 
Litos said:
it's a real fact you will never know if any team would have moved up for Pickett if the Steelers passed on him, so stop it now please. A guy as knowledgeable as you shouldn't be so stubborn, just cut your loses and move on
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Yes, I don’t. But I do know no one drafted another QB for 54 picks after Pickett was drafted. So you don’t know he would have and LIKELY as no one drafted a QB until round 3 Pickett wouldn’t have been drafted anytime soon after 20.
 
Fact is both of our last 2 1st round picks were good in college, what does that mean in the pros?
It means they are even more dissapointing putting up the current numbers.
I think league average is the ceiling for Najee and Pickett, and even that looks like a bold statement currently.
Neither guy is carrying the Steelers to a superbowl.
 
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