If someone offered a third or higher for him, I’d volunteer to help pack his bags… anything less and yeah, he is worth keeping just in case …
I'd cut Rudolph for the roster spot
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I agree but we know nobody outside of Chicago is probably dumb enough to do that.
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I get that from the perspective of stats but, I think Kenny has an intangible factor in how he carries himself and leads on the field that already separates him from the others. He may not be all that more physically gifted he is just seemingly a better all around leader and student of the game.
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Lol..This post made me think about something… if a GM was slick and had an open roster spot and wasn’t going to be in the playoffs and had cap space to burn, and had a player they were going to target that they knew was going to be on the market in the off season on a team that wasn’t going anywhere near the playoffs… i guess it could be conceivable they could try to make a lowball offer after the Trade deadline but before the offseason and hope the other team bit on it for cap savings or something…
I mean they would not be eligible that season but could get up to speed for the next season I guess…
Im almost positive that unsigned tagged guys wouldn’t be allowed to be traded though lol
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That’s subjective. I agree with intangibles are hard to define and I believe Kenny will have them but I don’t base my argument on that. He’s getting his opportunity and I will judge him in a few years based on his body of work. I want 1500 pass attempts and 40 starts. Then I can feel like I will have objective knowledge of what type of QB he is.
He is just that talented
Yeah well what you feel is an appropriate time frame is just that. What the Steelers feel is a whole different matter. You aren't a GM you work in a bank probably selling bullshit , just like you try to pass off here.
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AS much as I think Mason is a good passer, better than Mitch, In the end I believe it came down to his legs. He is fast but not agile and in Canada's "system" he was not the right fit for what he wants to do(whatever that actually is). A pure pocket passer is not particularly popular right now in the league. Mason is a bit of a dinosaur in the eyes of a league with players like LJ, Mahomes and Hurts.
I think you hit the nail on the head… nfl teams are obsessed with running qbs right now… drop back passers are not en vogue.
An inaccurate dinosaur. You want your more accurate QBs on the field or not?
Sure if you leave out that Mitch is the more accurate passer. Then the nail gets hit. Yes being able to scramble is attractive to everyone as you can bide time to allow a WR to get open. But when you are the least mobile and the least accurate you will become a free agent then crawl back to a team as their third string QB.
Wow this narrative is getting full. That first pass he grounded to CA3 was pretty much indicative of Mason's accuracy.
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I admit my bias. I have never been on the Mitch train. I disagreed when they signed him to his first contract,never mind the extension. I thought he sucked last year and did not think much of him in Chicago.
Now that being said,my point being I think both of them needed competition and were upgradable. My example above was a guy I would have brought in. Instead of signing Mason. It would not have taken a precious draft pick and he signed for less than Mason.
It would have brought fresh blood for competition. Omar has done great in the off season for depth and competition.
But not in the QB department. I am not saying that guy would have been the answer either. But competition is a good thing. Obviously many like Mitch as a backup. I don’t.
I'm quite curious what you thought was a better option at the time. Personally, I didn't think KP was going to fall that far and felt they should just play Rudolph and let the chips fall. Swim you got a Q. Sink and you got a draft pick. When they got both Mitch and KP I was happy. You do realize the re-sign of , Mitch was a situation where they transitioned a semi starter salary to a backup. They could have got dead cap space and then got I don't know what better then Mitch and Personally saying Rudy is better is a figment of imagination. I don't think he is better in any respect with the exception of some of the imaginary traits being peddled here.
I think our QB room is quite good. Pickett has more potential than I originally thought, and the next two qbs both have starting experience, career completion % over 60, td% around 4%, and passer ratings over 80…. Moreover both have winning records as starters…
Go peruse other backups… ypu find guys with little experience, bad stats, horrible losing records.. I mean Colt McCoy is an average backup in the league… Colt ******* McCoy..
Go peruse other backups… ypu find guys with little experience, bad stats, horrible losing records.. I mean Colt McCoy is an average backup in the league… Colt ******* McCoy..
I said it then,I’ll say it now. I would not have signed Mitch......I would have sank or swum starting Mason. Just like you. I would have also,as the Steelers did,draft a QB. I am not going to say Mason was a world beater,but I also thought he deserved the #1 as Ben’s replacement. With the thought if he looked horrible,put in the rookie in the bye week. Which I think was week 9.
At the time I did kind of say to myself,look,Mason didn’t have a probowl rookie season,but he wasn’t horrible either. Coupled with his injuries and that **** tard from Cleveland swinging the helmet and spewing racial allegations he had a lot of **** going on. More so than most rookie QB’s. And he acted pretty damn well professional throughout. So yup,I thought he deserved a shot to sink or swim.
Regarding your last sentence,where the hell did I say Rudolph was better? I think I made it perfectly clear both were upgradable,and I wanted competition. If it was really up to me,depending on how they looked,neither of them would be on this roster. Obviously you were using “ your figment of your own imagination “
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With two 1sts and a 3rd in the room I’d expect them to be above average
Our backups definitely are better than average and hopefully the starter is trending in that direction or becomes better than average soon
So spot on though, not too many teams have a competent backup much less a guy like Mason as the QB3
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I was hopeful with Pickett but not sure what to expect. I agree with you.
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He’s definitely not mitch or kenny in the legs department. I wouldn’t say he’s immobile either. He definitely is more of a typical drop back and pass qb. I think he has enough wheels to scramble for a gainer but that’s not going to be his first option. I honestly would rather have a more traditional QB than Jackson or Hurts. I feel their game is more a flash in the pan than a long term solution. I think the AFC North has figured out Jackson and I think the NFC East will have Hurts bottled up quickly. I do like that Pickett is more athletic than Ben was. I like the ability to escape the pocket and being able to get positive yards. I just don’t want him to get happy feet either
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Mason is ok straight ahead. Heck he had a better 40 time than many. He just is stiff in lateral mobility and early on had little pocket awareness. That has improved but many don’t realize it has. People’s first impression seems to be the only impression for many. Just like with KP for many. He had a few rough outings early and he gets a label.
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He’s a big dude. I would say pretty close to Roethlisberger’s size. Hard to be agile at that size.