Because you are basing so much on one performance. I wouldn't say Mitch won the game against the Bengals last year by any means. But with it on the line when it mattered most he delivered and they kicked the Winner. He started for a shity franchise and got them to playoffs. And most importantly people who are paid to make the decisions watched them practice about 100 times last year and decided to invest in Mitch. No one was interested in even NFL chump change for Rudy.
I'd cut Rudolph for the roster spot
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When you have to tuck your legs between your tail in route back to being a red nosed third stringer, it tells me Santa isn't too comfy with you having the reigns. Or being the second in line for that matter. One team wanted Rudy for the last in line. One out of 32 teams.
The Steelers wanted that veteran presence and knew he knew the system. We can hype up all those vanilla defenses he faced in preseason all we want. He just never has done anything in-season that made me think could hold it together if needed down a stretch.
A fan can say Rudy is the better option vs Mitch..sure a fan can think it. It is very crystal clear that the Steelers do not share that viewpoint.
Exactly. I'm not sure where he placed Pittsburgh on his list if he had to be third but with a clear one in Pickett and 2nd in Mitch and his history with the franchise there is just no chance it wasn't in the bottom third. Yet here he is.
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Extend Rudy now. Get him for 7 or 8 yrs if possible. We can trade Tribisky to Cleveland for perhaps a few 1st rounders. Get it done Tomar....
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Tomar wouldn’t have a chance in hellA to make that deal. YOU’d have to get our one and ONLY Cooooch involved and
you’d have to wait until Rudy wasn’t on the roster and trade deadline was over……Coooch would get two 1st rnd picks.
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This isn’t true. Rudolph supposedly turned down other third stringer roles right before firing his agent. He knew that if he went somewhere else as a third string guy and didn’t gel with the system immediately, he was done in the NFL.
Thats why he came back… because here he can have preseason games like that last one and maybe reignite interest in himself.
His big mistake was extending his rookie contract out a year. Instead of being a free agent in a huge year for qb turnover, he was locked into here where they signed a guy over him then drafted a guy over that guy… he hit ufa in probably the worse year for a free agent qb in decades.. teddy bridgewater just signed a couple days ago… Carson Wentz remains unsigned…
next year, outside of Kirk Cousins there really wont be any real starter ufas, but a ton of #2’s are ufas and a lot of them are going to be on their last chances… some are aging out, others just have team hopped a lot and never produced… it almost would have been better had Mason signed a two year extension a couple years ago… the Steelers almost certainly would have unloaded him last year instead…
Man, you really still have no idea what you're talking about, do you? Nobody wanted these guys?
Doug Flutie opted to enter the USFL draft in February of 1985, and had already signed a contract with the New Jersey Generals well before the NFL draft took place. Yet HE WAS STILL DRAFTED that same year by the Rams. Then, after the USFL folded, the Bears TRADED for him.
Warren Moon also decided to sign with another league (the CFL) before the NFL draft took place. Then, six years later, there was a bidding war among NFL teams for his services.
Rich Gannon was drafted, traded for twice, and signed as a free agent by several other teams during 18 NFL seasons.
Mark Brunell was drafted by the Packers, traded to Jacksonville and Washington, and signed in free agency by two other teams in a 19-year NFL career.
Johnny Unitas was drafted by the Steelers, yet they did not give him a single practice snap because the coach thought he was too stupid to play quarterback. The following year, he signed with the Colts and had a Hall-of-Fame career.
Right. However, YOU, of course, CAN compare the fact that no other NFL team wanted Rudolph (after seeing his 384 attempts from every angle in this day and age) to Johnny U, who literally never even got a chance in practice with the Steelers in the 1950s, like it's applicable? But you're not the one with a creepy infatuation?
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I read that too. I just wasn't positive it was true. Not sure any approach that he would have taken would have resulted in success for him. But your take could be accurate sure in regards to the exit from the NFL if he didn't gel quickly. I sort of was thinking along those lines when he became a free agent. I think sometimes sticking with a team can help promote your NFL stay into a longer period of time for exactly that reason.
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Both just different flavors of a game managing QB2-3
One guy has more mobility, has poor anticipation having to see the play open/unable to throw guys open$$$
The other…maybe a little more arm talent, but fairly unathletic and struggles with accuracy at times$
Both scare the crap out of ya if it’s gonna be a multi-game endeavor and both make it extremely easy for our QB1 to have a clear path to the job…hopefully KP looks more like a QB1 in his second season, he certainly seems to be putting in the effort
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When he couldn’t even etch out a vet minimum deal from a team with alleged trade interest the year prior (Lions) or his hometown Panthers that had only Corral rostered at the time (and then chose to pay the old ginger like 8mill instead,
) that indeed tells ya a lot about what the other 31 were thinkingAlso tells me we likely over paid his last contract before this meager deal
That being said, for a team that loves continuity it’s nice to have 2 QB3s that know the crayon box
I hear Canada added yellow-green to his arsenal. He calls it yellow-green jet sweep. He fakes it to Austin who they would think would get the ball due to his electricWhen he couldn’t even etch out a vet minimum deal from a team with alleged trade interest the year prior (Lions) or his hometown Panthers that had only Corral rostered at the time (and then chose to pay the old ginger like 8mill instead,
Also tells me we likely over paid his last contract before this meager deal
That being said, for a team that loves continuity it’s nice to have 2 QB3s that know the crayon box
speed, then unexpecting teams will never guess that slow a foot Gentry will get it instead. He says it is good for at least two to three yards.
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I hear Canada added yellow-green to his arsenal. He calls it yellow-green jet sweep. He fakes it to Austin who they would think would get the ball due to his electric
Just when you think you have the 9-crayola set under control, Matt finds the 10th hole slot and will add the “Top Secret” fullback option jet sweep play…………………………. Kendrick, this is your color.!!!
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Ooooh yeah Gentry definitely first optionI hear Canada added yellow-green to his arsenal. He calls it yellow-green jet sweep. He fakes it to Austin who they would think would get the ball due to his electric
2nd option Kendrick Green from H back
3rd option brings the green CA3
At some point work the double reverse off our it (Greeen starts to left, reverse to Gentry then double reverse to CA3)
The yellow green jet sweep
Unstoppable
Can’t wait to see it a hundred times!!!
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Mason got hit in the face with the reality that this is a business first. I am sure he was given the "stay one more year for your shot" song and dance and signed on the dotted line. At this point the best he and the Steelers could hope for is a few more preseason games like last week and maybe an injury bug hits a QB room. We might get a draft pick and he might get an opportunity elsewhere. Win win for everyone.
I know it’s just preseason banter.....
I kind of chuckle at all the different opinions on Mitch and Mason in the forum. I think memories are short. Mitch really, really sucked in his starts last year. Yes, yes, Canada and all that. But he looked horrible. I think his ceiling is average at best.
Some people can argue till they’re blue,with insults to whoever disagrees about how Mason never got a fair chance. As if they are privy to see the practice field every day , seeing what the coaches see. 5 years of it.
I would have never signed Mitch to his first contract, and after seeing him play, certainly would not have extended him.
Nathan Rourke shown above was voted CFL’s outstanding player. He is turning heads in Jacksonville. I mentioned him in the off-season as well as Sasksteel. He had a special run in the CFL and was worth a look. And I believe cost under 800,000$. He won’t get starts obviously in Jacksonville but will be interesting to watch.
My point being.... both Mitch and Mason could easily be replaced. And as far as I am concerned should be. I am sick and tired of the old “ he knows the system “ type of BS. Our OC’s system. Big feather on your cap there
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This is a dang good post top seed, thanks for alll the great ones along the way.
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Why? Statistically, all three of our QB's are basically the same creature. Pickett has a chance to separate himself this year. no one can say with certainty that he will.
I was hoping the Steelers would look at Rourke. It was free and he looked good in CFL. But it was one play.
With Kenny 's rookie year in the books we really can't hang our hat on his first year statistics.That was on the job training .
Sorry they aren't basically the same creature. Kenny has clearly separated himself from the pack. It isn't a matter of if he is better, he is. It is a matter of how much better he will be. That is where the wait and see kicks in.
If you like stats the preseason game backs this up, but the eye test shows he is already a step ahead. Really at this point I really don't get anyone who thinks different.
Who could you easily replace Mitch with?
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I kind of chuckle at all the different opinions on Mitch and Mason in the forum. I think memories are short. Mitch really, really sucked in his starts last year. Yes, yes, Canada and all that. But he looked horrible. I think his ceiling is average at best.
Some people can argue till they’re blue,with insults to whoever disagrees about how Mason never got a fair chance. As if they are privy to see the practice field every day , seeing what the coaches see. 5 years of it.
I would have never signed Mitch to his first contract, and after seeing him play, certainly would not have extended him.
Nathan Rourke shown above was voted CFL’s outstanding player. He is turning heads in Jacksonville. I mentioned him in the off-season as well as Sasksteel. He had a special run in the CFL and was worth a look. And I believe cost under 800,000$. He won’t get starts obviously in Jacksonville but will be interesting to watch.
My point being.... both Mitch and Mason could easily be replaced. And as far as I am concerned should be. I am sick and tired of the old “ he knows the system “ type of BS. Our OC’s system. Big feather on your cap there
That is ok in a backup role?
Not that him and Rudy are world beaters they aren't. But the market isn't so rich in capable backups.
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They changed the rule allowing for a #3 emergency QB on the roster. That means nearly every team is likely to keep 3 QBs this year, so if you only keep 2 and do need to sign a QB later, you will be scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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That seals the deal for us keeping all three this year and more than likely next.
I don’t want one of the two (Mitch / Rudy) next year as we need to have that ”rookie in training” sitting on the bench or carrying the clip board…. So to speak.
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I completely forgot about this. Yes, definitely keep Rudolph. And everyone who hates him should hope he balls out again the next two preseason games. Because if he does and a team like the Packers have Jordon Love get hurt, or Chargers have Herbert go down for a significant amount of time, or A-A-Ron goes down with the Jets we could possibly trade Mason and get a later round pick for him.
If he plays well they can get a late rounder for Rudy what a 6th or 7th?
The new rule was explained that is why you keep three and a late pick isn't worth getting rid of depth.
Fans constantly want to deplete depth , never mind there isn't a good option behind Rudy.
The new rule was explained that is why you keep three and a late pick isn't worth getting rid of depth.
Fans constantly want to deplete depth , never mind there isn't a good option behind Rudy.