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Initial thoughts on browns Game

Another thing, Najee should not be back next year unless they get him cheap. He gets about the minimum on each carry. There will be a guy like him available in free agency.
I wouldn't pay him more then 10....and I'm almost tempted to say the 10 would only be attained through certain bonuses/incentives that he reaches.
 
I wouldn't pay him more then 10....and I'm almost tempted to say the 10 would only be attained through certain bonuses/incentives that he reaches.
The Steelers didn't want to pay him $6.79 next year. No way they'll be interested in paying him $10 million with a deep running back draft class ahead.
 
Najee is very polarizing, some times you think we should have tagged him, others welll... he is just a guy
Its hard to get a good read on him

He’s put up great numbers on the back of his best ability-availability
He’s a high usage back that doesn’t miss too many snaps so are the good numbers just a product of him just seeing a high percentage of the offense going through him? Is he a contributor to actually holding the offense back with his career almost 4ypc numbers?

Then just when ya think he’s dangerously average he reels off a couple games where he’s trucking people and bursting and he looks like he could be great…then just as soon he he flashes a touch of that greatness it’s back to where you see him avoiding contact, looking hesitant, failing to race defenders to the sideline and failing to be able to pick up short yardage gains.

Definitely quite the polarizing back as you stated.

Unfortunately you only get Great Najee a couple games a year but dangerously average Najee shows up and is at least available every week.

Much like the HC it’s probably time to move on from him, but ya never know cuz the Rooneys are all about loyalty as the standard.
 
2009-started the season 6-2 as defending champs, only to lose five straight and miss the playoffs.
2011-the Tebow game
2012-missed the playoffs
2013-missed the playoffs
2014-Lost at home in the wildcard to the Ravens
2018-missed the playoffs despite starting the season 7-2-1 and Ben leading the league in passing yards

I don't include 2016, as they reached the AFC game, but the defense getting shredded like it did in that game was not a high mark for Tomlin. It started the streak of the Steelers allowing 30+ points to opponents in five straight playoff games.
Leading the league in passing yards? you gots to be jokin

You and the other Tomlin fixated mouth breathers sound like clowns with this anti Tomlin campaign. Get yourself together. Admit to yourself and realize that Tomlin is an excellent coach. There are a hundred people responsible for W and L and most responsibility lies with 53 men. Blame Tomlin and everyone else gets a pass.
 
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Leading the league in passing yards? you gots to be jokin

You sound like a clown with this anti Tomlin campaign. Get yourself together. Admit to yourself and realize that Tomlin is an excellent coach. There are a hundred people responsible for W and L and most responsibility lies with 53 men. Blame Tomlin and everyone else gets a pass. You are a moron.

Roethlisberger did lead the league in passing yards in 2018. Get your facts straight before you ridicule others.

Three playoff wins over a nearly 15 year stretch is an abysmal performance for a head coach. Maybe that's acceptable for you, but most fans expect more.

I've never said that Tomlin was solely responsible for it, but to pretend he has not been a major factor in it is ignorant.

Players and assistant coaches have changed, but he has been the constant over the years.
 
Najee is very polarizing, some times you think we should have tagged him, others welll... he is just a guy
Najee will be like Conner.

He will go somewhere else and we all will be wondering where that came from....

Like all the other talent that leaves Pittsburgh.
 
Roethlisberger did lead the league in passing yards in 2018. Get your facts straight before you ridicule others.

Three playoff wins over a nearly 15 year stretch is an abysmal performance for a head coach. Maybe that's acceptable for you, but most fans expect more.

I've never said that Tomlin was solely responsible for it, but to pretend he has not been a major factor in it is ignorant.

Players and assistant coaches have changed, but he has been the constant over the years.

Passing yards is not how you measure a QB. It's ridiculous to make it your basis. Ben did as much harm as good but I don't see you mentioning that

Tomlin is one of the better pro coaches and a coach of the year candidate. You and the other members of the anti Tomlin clown show here may not like him but you don't have the right to continuously masturbate publicly after team losses.

If you don't start calling out everyone on every occasion someone doesn't do their job according to your mystery standards, you will continue to have 0 credibility when it comes to anything related to Tomlin. You have lots of work to do.
 
Najee will be like Conner.

He will go somewhere else and we all will be wondering where that came from....

Like all the other talent that leaves Pittsburgh.
Conner was a good running back, but he wasnt great and was injury prone while in Pittburgh. He also had below avg hands catching out of the backfield. He was fine when it came to dump passes, but anything mid to long range and he was terrible. He also had a tendency to fumble at the most inopportune times. A fumble at anytime is never really any good. But his seemed to have more of an impact then others for whatever reason.

He's still the same player, but I think he's maybe just 1 level above Najee running, but he's not a Saquan or what Leveon was when he was here. I don't think he's a player the Steelers regret letting go. They were hoping he would become a Leveon. He didn't and he still isn't. Go look at his stats. All of his numbers are similar to what they were in Pittsburgh so in what way did he go somewhere and become better?

I would like to know what other players you feel Pittsburgh let go that Pittsburgh regretted??? I like to call people out when they say stuff like this because I have not seen it personally. I don't count business decisions when you can't resign everybody beyond their rookie contract (i.e. Javon Hargrave) because you have 2 great players at the same position but cant pay both. Other then that I almost guarantee you can't name anyone and if you do it's few and far between.
 
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Harris is a quality RB. Having said that, finding adequate RBs is way too easy to justify paying huge money to the position.

Harris will leave here with the most Rushing yards after his first 4 years IIRC... i dont see him taking a discount to stay and a 27 year old back coming off 4 1000 yard seasons with the 1100- 1200 or so carries he will have by seasons end will still be quite attractive to other teams... so he will get a better offer elsewhere...
 
Najee will be like Conner.

He will go somewhere else and we all will be wondering where that came from....

Like all the other talent that leaves Pittsburgh.
Conner’s production in Arizona hasn’t been surprising at all. He was a better RB while in Pittsburgh than Najee and is better now. His issue was he couldn’t stay healthy. Put him in a two-back system and he thrives here and stays healthier.
 
Passing yards is not how you measure a QB. It's ridiculous to make it your basis. Ben did as much harm as good but I don't see you mentioning that

Tomlin is one of the better pro coaches and a coach of the year candidate. You and the other members of the anti Tomlin clown show here may not like him but you don't have the right to continuously masturbate publicly after team losses.

If you don't start calling out everyone on every occasion someone doesn't do their job according to your mystery standards, you will continue to have 0 credibility when it comes to anything related to Tomlin. You have lots of work to do.

We "don't have a right" to be critical of Tomlin after losses? Who the **** do you think you are, exactly?

The funny thing is you believing that you have any sort of credibility as it relates to Tomlin when you refuse to hold him accountable for anything.

You cannot completely absolve him from the performance on the field when he has a large hand in the selection and preparation of the players.

He's been coaching the team for 18 years now, and one count the number of seasons in which the Steelers have had consistently good OL play on one hand.

Is that a coincidence, or does it say something about him?

How about drafting and developing DBs? After Artie Burns, Sean Davis and Terrell Edmunds flopped, Joey Porter Jr isn't looking so good in his second year.

Short term or isolated issues are one thing, but when the same problems persist over the course of years, you have to start looking at the person who has been involved the entire time.
 
We "don't have a right" to be critical of Tomlin after losses? Who the **** do you think you are, exactly?

The funny thing is you believing that you have any sort of credibility as it relates to Tomlin when you refuse to hold him accountable for anything.

You cannot completely absolve him from the performance on the field when he has a large hand in the selection and preparation of the players.

He's been coaching the team for 18 years now, and one count the number of seasons in which the Steelers have had consistently good OL play on one hand.

Is that a coincidence, or does it say something about him?

How about drafting and developing DBs? After Artie Burns, Sean Davis and Terrell Edmunds flopped, Joey Porter Jr isn't looking so good in his second year.

Short term or isolated issues are one thing, but when the same problems persist over the course of years, you have to start looking at the person who has been involved the entire time.

I didn't even mention the guy and he read into it and got all defensive.

Honestly I wasn't even digging on Tomlin. He doesn't have total control over these deals I know.

Name someone aside of Hargrave? Robert Spillane comes to mind.
 
We "don't have a right" to be critical of Tomlin after losses? Who the **** do you think you are, exactly?

The funny thing is you believing that you have any sort of credibility as it relates to Tomlin when you refuse to hold him accountable for anything.

You cannot completely absolve him from the performance on the field when he has a large hand in the selection and preparation of the players.

He's been coaching the team for 18 years now, and one count the number of seasons in which the Steelers have had consistently good OL play on one hand.

Is that a coincidence, or does it say something about him?

How about drafting and developing DBs? After Artie Burns, Sean Davis and Terrell Edmunds flopped, Joey Porter Jr isn't looking so good in his second year.

Short term or isolated issues are one thing, but when the same problems persist over the course of years, you have to start looking at the person who has been involved the entire time.

Wait. Stop right there. The funny thing is you change and soften your arguments when you're called out. That's your first sign that you're full of *****

No one is "completely absolved" -- and that's your term since it has never been mentioned. Try to stay on topic here. When was anyone completely absolved? So you're making ***** up to support your untenable position

I said you don't have the right to publicly masturbate. Your constant bitching and whining and your public display of your sopping wet vagina after losses, you are like a chick. Worse than a chick

Who else is responsible? Colbert? How about Woodley who took the big money and disappeared with injuries? Who was responsible for Ben cracking his head open? Is there anyone else responsible or accountable? I didn't think so.

Tomlin is one of the best coaches in the league. He'd have a job as HC the day after you fired him.

Tomlin Derangement Syndrome. Incurable.
 
No one is "completely absolved" -- and that's your term since it has never been mentioned. Try to stay on topic here. When was anyone completely absolved? So you're making ***** up to support your untenable position

That's bullshit and you know it. All you do is minimize and deflect blame regarding Tomlin, while showing hostility toward anyone who dares question the overall performance of a coach who has done nothing in the post season for a decade and a half.

It just cannot possibly be Tomlin's fault to any significant degree in your world.

You're also a hypocrite, calling those critical of Tomlin whiners, while you're worse than a teenage girl on the rag when it comes to bitching about the criticism of Tomlin.
 
Come on! Have some faith. Our next game is just 9 days away on Dec 1st. We will not go gently. We WILL unleash hell in December. Because we have to. We won't go into a shell, we'll go into attack mode. Because that's what's required.


The standard is the standard


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To be fair, DIC, Tomlin was outcoached in January of 2021 by a Browns coach who was not even at the stadium due to Covid!

Also, please, please, please, please, PLEASE don't call him "Tom Lin" and make him part Asian. The team would NEVER be able to fire him!


I was going to bring that up as well, but now this is a trend. Browns out-coaching steelers................................................

They already don't seem to be able to fire him..................


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They are playing well for the most part

I think most of us saw this result coming if we’re being honest with ourselves

The players didn’t execute and the situational play calling was abysmal which usually equates to a poor result

I’m an above average nut hugger, that’s why I keep watching…because I know someday we wake up and it’s not GroundHog’s day. Being a die hard fan can be tough

It may take something freakish and Bungle like to get there, but it will be a sweet sweet taste when finally achieved again

Fiji, I've seen green men, waterless water buffalo, flint-lock bow and arrows flying high in the sky................. YES, I have seen what could have been...........

Now we regroup and see what 10days of coaching bring us. Cincinnati will need their A-game.


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Najee will be like Conner.

He will go somewhere else and we all will be wondering where that came from....

Like all the other talent that leaves Pittsburgh.
Plenty of guys leave the Steelers to fade out of the league into obscurity as well, it’s certainly not like everyone that leaves blows it up elsewhere. A couple guys have mildly improved upon departing, many regress and some fade out of the league all together. Who are all these great-good players we let depart you are referring to?
 
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