Initial thoughts on browns Game

[Punxsutawney]

What are u talking about because Tom Brady took his place? Do yourself a favor and stop commenting. Garroppolo a HOFer??!! Are you trolling bro??

Do you seriously not understand sarcasm?

You senselessly first brought up Brady and two of the Patriots Superbowls for some reason when I alluded to Garoppolo nearly winning a Superbowl with the 49ers.

The HOF comment was obviously not to be taken seriously. Kyle Shanahan deserved a massive raise just based on what he got out of Garoppolo.

 

[NoKap#7]

Do you seriously not understand sarcasm?

You senselessly first brought up Brady and two of the Patriots Superbowls for some reason when I alluded to Garoppolo nearly winning a Superbowl with the 49ers.

The HOF comment was obviously not to be taken seriously. Kyle Shanahan deserved a massive raise just based on what he got out of Garoppolo.

Wha whattt???! Why does nearly winning a SB enter into the equation? We're talking about SB winners not near winners moron. That's why I brought up Brady. Thats the only time Garropolo has been on a SB winning team (or did you not realize that??). Nearly winning is not winning and I could care less about your sarcasm. You're terrible at conveying any points you have tried to make. Garropolo isn't HOF material, but he wasn't a horrible QB either. He wasn't near as good as Ben or RW in their prime, but he's certainly above average and much better then Hodges, Pickett, Fields, Trubisky, Pickett and Rudolph and past prime Big Ben and RW. Either way you fail again because Garropolo didn't win any SB as a starter so why continue to bring him up?

 

[TimesAreChanged]

Tomlin definitely boned punk Phil's girlfriend

 

[Fiji Mariner]

What classification of “nut hugger” would I be in as prior to season I said (sober and unsolicited) that I expect 2 play off wins, before I could look at Coach Tom Lin and think there is a glimmer of hope. It will take more than 1 PO win to extract the ground hog day re-occirance for as long as it has been in affect.


Salute the nation

You fall off the spectrum expecting the simply impossible…2 effin playoff wins

Are you high??? Don’t answer the elves are listening even over the crackle of the bacon frying

Were you under the grips of copious amounts of peyote with this 2 playoff win vision?

Baby steps…1 playoff win opens the door for a new day escaping GroundHog’s day

Baby steps, must escape GroundHog’s day before any steps can be taken to trust the one hiding behind the funglasses… he’s clowning us

Hopefully Coach T can get 2 more before he takes that great Tv gig in the sky in about a decade or so…won’t hold my breath tho, he’s at his ceiling this year (a possible win in the playoffs and another Tomlinship)

We’re gonna be waiting for 2 for awhile so may as well start slow, slow, slow, slow smokin’ a brisket while we wait

 

[Punxsutawney]

Wha whattt???! Why does nearly winning a SB enter into the equation? We're talking about SB winners not near winners moron. That's why I brought up Brady. Nearly winning is not winning and I could care less about your sarcasm. You're terrible at conveying any points you have tried to make. Garropolo isn't HOF material, but he wasn't a horrible QB either. He wasn't near as good as Ben or RW in their prime, but he's certainly above average and much better then Hodges, Pickett, Fields, Trubisky, Pickett and Rudolph and past prime Big Ben and RW. Either way you fail again because Garropolo didn't win any SB as a starter so why continue to bring him up?

I bring Garoppolo up because leading 20-10 in the fourth quarter of Superbowl illustrates it is possible to win one without an elite QB, in addition to Foles winning it. The 49ers defense closes the deal, it's a different story.

You've basically used the lack of a top 5-10 QB to excuse Tomlin failing in the post season for the better part of a decade when he spent the better part of Roethlisberger's prime doing the same thing.

That's fine, as opinions vary, but to lash out and rudely ridicule people who express their frustrations with Tomlin's post season failings not just over the past seven years, but really closer to 15 years at this point, is lame.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[NoKap#7]

I bring Garoppolo up because leading 20-10 in the fourth quarter of Superbowl illustrates it is possible to win one without an elite QB, in addition to Foles winning it. The 49ers defense closes the deal, it's a different story.

You've basically used the lack of a top 5-10 QB to excuse Tomlin failing in the post season for the better part of a decade when he spent the better part of Roethlisberger's prime doing the same thing.

That's fine, as opinions vary, but to lash out and rudely ridicule people who express their frustrations with Tomlin's post season failings not just over the past seven years, but really closer to 15 years at this point, is lame.

I'll leave it at that.

Yeah u better leave it that. I understand frustrations but don't make yourself look stupid trying to discredit him in the manner that you did. You had lot of invalid points with all your woulda shoulda coulda scenarios and that's about the gist of it. If you had simply stuck to the topic at hand we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Damn you're a fuckling cocksuccer

 

[Punxsutawney]

Yeah u better leave it that. I understand frustrations but don't make yourself look stupid trying to discredit him in the manner that you did. You had lot of invalid points with all your woulda shoulda coulda scenarios and that's about the gist of it. If you had simply stuck to the topic at hand we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I'd honestly like to leave it, but you insist on being such a prick that it makes it difficult.

Tomlin has discredited himself with only three playoff wins since 2011.

You're free to believe he's this great coach only being held back by the QB position, while being a puss-filled ******* toward anyone who disagrees, but it doesn't mean you're right.

He accomplished virtually nothing the last 10 years or so of Roethlisberger career, the Steelers offensive line play has been bad under him much more often than not, and his defenses have been historically bad in the playoffs.

There's nothing to suggest he wouldn't just piss away seasons with a top QB. He's done it before.

 

[NoKap#7]

I'd honestly like to leave it, but you insist on being such a prick that it makes it difficult.

Tomlin has discredited himself with only three playoff wins since 2011.

You're free to believe he's this great coach only being held back by the QB position, while being a puss-filled ******* toward anyone who disagrees, but it doesn't mean you're right.

He accomplished virtually nothing the last 10 years or so of Roethlisberger career, the Steelers offensive line play has been bad under him much more often than not, and his defenses have been historically bad in the playoffs.

There's nothing to suggest he wouldn't just piss away seasons with a top QB. He's done it before.

Only one season I know of that he pissed away and that's 2017-2018 which I already acknowledged. Feel free to point out anymore...don't bother to mention the last 3 seasons of Big Ben's career. He had a noodle arm and was a statue by then and had pretty much checked out after his last contract which the Steelers should not have given him If we're talking about a business decision.

 

[Skott]

We as fans can see these deficiencies clear as day, but the guy getting paid millions of dollars to coach can’t see it if it hit him in the head…

This Steelers team literally makes it easy to coach against because the Tomlin Steelers do the same damn thing every damn game.

 

[Punxsutawney]

Only one season I know of that he pissed away and that's 2017-2018 which I already acknowledged. Feel free to point out anymore...don't bother to mention the last 3 seasons of Big Ben's career. He had a noodle arm and was a statue by then and had pretty much checked out after his last contract which the Steelers should not have given him If we're talking about a business decision.

2009-started the season 6-2 as defending champs, only to lose five straight and miss the playoffs.
2011-the Tebow game
2012-missed the playoffs
2013-missed the playoffs
2014-Lost at home in the wildcard to the Ravens
2018-missed the playoffs despite starting the season 7-2-1 and Ben leading the league in passing yards

I don't include 2016, as they reached the AFC game, but the defense getting shredded like it did in that game was not a high mark for Tomlin. It started the streak of the Steelers allowing 30+ points to opponents in five straight playoff games.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Only one season I know of that he pissed away and that's 2017-2018 which I already acknowledged. Feel free to point out anymore...don't bother to mention the last 3 seasons of Big Ben's career. He had a noodle arm and was a statue by then and had pretty much checked out after his last contract which the Steelers should not have given him If we're talking about a business decision.

Burgettstown Bob said:
Right.. just like claiming the contrary is your opinion. I'm pretty sure that noodle Ben HAS underthrown plenty of balls. You're just referencing the 2 throws that have been an anomaly to that norm. If you want to continue our discussion as to whether noodle Ben has "still go it" let's do so after our 3-14 season. lol


Burgettstown Bob said:
Thanks to mostly everyone for the warm welcome! There seem to be a lot less @ssho!es over here compared to the other forum. Honestly, I still can't believe that they banned me. The funny thing is, the vast majority seemed to agree with everything that I was saying, but the one "supporter" (who was a grouchy senior citizen, literally) didn't want me to refer to stupid Tomlin and noodle arm Ben's poor performance because "it was old news". I'm like, well, give me something new to flipping talk about already. lol

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pathetic

 

[NoKap#7]

2009- goes beyond the last 10 years of Rothlisbergers career,but since you went there wasn't there quite a few significant injuries to that team throughout the year??

2011- didn't Antonio Brown get knocked out by Burfict the game before? I thought that was pretty significant.

2012 - rebuild mode. Drop off is typical would you say not??

2013 - Still in rebuild with a bunch of aging players at key positions. By the way, it should be noted that 2012 and 2013 drafts were among the top worst drafts in Steelers history. Not making an excuse but go look at them which is why this team didnt improve during this time. You had Decastro and Bell who were the only ones worth mentioning.

2014- Didn't Leveon miss this game with an injury? I feel like it's worth mentioning because it was pretty significant

2018 - I knew that not signing Leveon would be big that year. You missed out on a minimum of 3 wins with him not on the team. It is what it is, I'm only stating facts.

In reality none of those years were pissed away. They simply didn't have the personnel to make any deep runs. Poor drafting was a big part of it. Free agency another since they cant keep everybody. When one unit was up the other was having a down season. Look at the rankings. Typically you have to be top 10 or least relatively close both sides of the ball to make deep playoff runs. You could go out and buy the farm in free agency like the Bucs and Rams did, but I've never known the Steelers to do that.

I just think Steelers fans have been overrating this team throughout the years. The expectations (or standards) yall were placing on this team wasn't matching up with the personnel to be able to accomplish it. I'm just keeping it . This is also the gift and curse of finishing .500 or above every year. You might miss out on a key draft pick or two. This has led to some ridiculous reaching in the draft as we all know. They couldn't even build depth through those drafts which is why they suffered so when a key player went down.

Team Defense Ranking- Source: Pro Football Reference. Points allowed ranking in ().

2007 - #1(2)
2008 - #1 (1)
2009 - #5 (13)
2010 - #2 (1)
2011 - #1 (1)
2012 - #1 (6)
2013 - #13 (14)
2014- #18 (18)
2015 - #12 (11)
2016 - #12 (10)
2017 - #5 (7)
2018 - #6 (17)
2019 - #5 (6)
2020 - #3 (3)
2021 - #19 (19)

Team Offense Rank over the years...source PRO FOOTBALL REFERENCE
Points for ranking in ()

2021 #25 (24)
2020 #24 (12)
2019 #30 (27)
2018 #4 (8)
2017 #3 (8)
2016 #7 (11)
2015 #3 (5)
2014 #2 (7)
2013 #20 (17)
2012 #21 (22)
2011 #12 (22)
2010 #14 (12)
2009 #7 (12)
2008 #22 (20)
2007 #17 (9)

 

[NoKap#7]

Burgettstown Bob said:
Right.. just like claiming the contrary is your opinion. I'm pretty sure that noodle Ben HAS underthrown plenty of balls. You're just referencing the 2 throws that have been an anomaly to that norm. If you want to continue our discussion as to whether noodle Ben has "still go it" let's do so after our 3-14 season. lol


Burgettstown Bob said:
Thanks to mostly everyone for the warm welcome! There seem to be a lot less @ssho!es over here compared to the other forum. Honestly, I still can't believe that they banned me. The funny thing is, the vast majority seemed to agree with everything that I was saying, but the one "supporter" (who was a grouchy senior citizen, literally) didn't want me to refer to stupid Tomlin and noodle arm Ben's poor performance because "it was old news". I'm like, well, give me something new to flipping talk about already. lol

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pathetic

I'm not sure why you sent me that?

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

 

[Litos]

Burgettstown Bob said:
Right.. just like claiming the contrary is your opinion. I'm pretty sure that noodle Ben HAS underthrown plenty of balls. You're just referencing the 2 throws that have been an anomaly to that norm. If you want to continue our discussion as to whether noodle Ben has "still go it" let's do so after our 3-14 season. lol


Burgettstown Bob said:
Thanks to mostly everyone for the warm welcome! There seem to be a lot less @ssho!es over here compared to the other forum. Honestly, I still can't believe that they banned me. The funny thing is, the vast majority seemed to agree with everything that I was saying, but the one "supporter" (who was a grouchy senior citizen, literally) didn't want me to refer to stupid Tomlin and noodle arm Ben's poor performance because "it was old news". I'm like, well, give me something new to flipping talk about already. lol

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pathetic

Ohhhh, elementary Mr Watson. We got Bob back

 

[NoKap#7]

Ohhhh, elementary Mr Watson. We got Bob back

If it's elementary then you're about as stupid as he is since apparently this other poster hated Tomlin and I'm a supporter of him.

 

[Litos]

If it's elementary then you're about as stupid as he is since apparently this other poster hated Tomlin and I'm a supporter of him.

Why the **** do you insult me? You inbred simpleton, better give respect if you expect to be given the same courtesy.

 

[NoKap#7]

Why the **** do you insult me? You inbred simpleton, better give respect if you expect to be given the same courtesy.

Did you not say Bob was back? Clearly I'm not Bob dimwit

 

[Litos]

Did you not say Bob was back? Clearly I'm not Bob dimwit

And did I insult you? I just said Bob is back, a$$hole.

Edited for your understanding

 

[NoKap#7]

And did I insult you? I just said Bob is back, a$$hole.

Edited for your understanding

Well Bob isn't back Sherlock

 

[speedicut]

Well Bob isn't back Sherlock

Easy Bob
Gargle with some vinegar and water, that'll freshen you up.

 

[NoKap#7]

Easy Bob
Gargle with some vinegar and water, that'll freshen you up.

You seem to know a whole lot about that. I take its from experience.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

I made a big batch of bean soup today. About 4 gallons. I break it down to 1/2 gallon containers and then vacuum seal and freeze. All beans and onions came from the garden

next time you make it, try putting a whole apple in while it simmers then just throw it away because it will be mushy and flavorless. It really adds something.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Another thing, Najee should not be back next year unless they get him cheap. He gets about the minimum on each carry. There will be a guy like him available in free agency.