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Jackson extension?

I don’t care what anyone says, I believe that Cleveland’s stupidity made Baltimore really think about the Jackson situation. If not for Cleveland’s stupidity, I believe that Jackson would have gotten everything that he wanted.
 
I don’t care what anyone says, I believe that Cleveland’s stupidity made Baltimore really think about the Jackson situation. If not for Cleveland’s stupidity, I believe that Jackson would have gotten everything that he wanted.

Totally agree, ****-ing Cleveland again.

I don’t think the ravens are out of the woods yet, I bet they still tie up a lot of money for a RB & part time QB.

I just keep hoping for bigger longer contract and huge all guaranteed, because that is what Action is set on.



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I don’t care what anyone says, I believe that Cleveland’s stupidity made Baltimore really think about the Jackson situation. If not for Cleveland’s stupidity, I believe that Jackson would have gotten everything that he wanted.
The thing is before Jimmy Jackass over in Cleveland gave out a ridiculous amount of guaranteed money to Watson, nobody had the gall to want a quarter of a billion dollars guaranteed… Jackson is his own agent.. he has no reasonable soul in his entourage telling him that in doing that type of contract, tge Ravens will have to gut the team in areas he needs…

He has one elite skill.. his running ability.. and how is that going to help him as he ages and slows down? The ravens are not stupid… they will trade him while qb prices are high…


My prediction is Atlanta… here is the reasoning
1. They are second only to the bears in cap space, but have most of their roster signed..
2. Their owner is one of the richest in the league and can afford a quarter million dollar escrow account..
3. They are in dire need of a QB
4. They have the draft capital to trade for him with the 8th overall pick
5. It might not be florida, but its probably the closest team to it…
Jackson comes from Florida.. Jacksonville doesn’t need a QB at all
Miami’s owner is rich enough to make a play for him, but is probably is happy with Tua.. plus they are tight with cap space and have no first round pick… trading tua by himself with lesser picks around him probably wouldn’t be a good opening bid…
Tampa suddenly needs a qb, but they are second worst in cap space …

Other close teams like New Orleans are also cap strapped… and while its not undoable, Carolina is about 9 million over the cap right now… the best options to clear stuff up probably cripple the offense
 
The thing is before Jimmy Jackass over in Cleveland gave out a ridiculous amount of guaranteed money to Watson, nobody had the gall to want a quarter of a billion dollars guaranteed… Jackson is his own agent.. he has no reasonable soul in his entourage telling him that in doing that type of contract, tge Ravens will have to gut the team in areas he needs…

He has one elite skill.. his running ability.. and how is that going to help him as he ages and slows down? The ravens are not stupid… they will trade him while qb prices are high…


My prediction is Atlanta… here is the reasoning
1. They are second only to the bears in cap space, but have most of their roster signed..
2. Their owner is one of the richest in the league and can afford a quarter million dollar escrow account..
3. They are in dire need of a QB
4. They have the draft capital to trade for him with the 8th overall pick
5. It might not be florida, but its probably the closest team to it…
Jackson comes from Florida.. Jacksonville doesn’t need a QB at all
Miami’s owner is rich enough to make a play for him, but is probably is happy with Tua.. plus they are tight with cap space and have no first round pick… trading tua by himself with lesser picks around him probably wouldn’t be a good opening bid…
Tampa suddenly needs a qb, but they are second worst in cap space …

Other close teams like New Orleans are also cap strapped… and while its not undoable, Carolina is about 9 million over the cap right now… the best options to clear stuff up probably cripple the offense
Not disagreeing, just think without Cleveland, Jackson makes $50,000,000.00 more on his deal.
 
5 yrs, 260 mil. 208 guaranteed.

Anyone else hear this?
His mama has him holding out for even more money! Pay up Ravens. Give the sulky man his money.
 
The thing is before Jimmy Jackass over in Cleveland gave out a ridiculous amount of guaranteed money to Watson, nobody had the gall to want a quarter of a billion dollars guaranteed… Jackson is his own agent.. he has no reasonable soul in his entourage telling him that in doing that type of contract, tge Ravens will have to gut the team in areas he needs…

He has one elite skill.. his running ability.. and how is that going to help him as he ages and slows down? The ravens are not stupid… they will trade him while qb prices are high…


My prediction is Atlanta… here is the reasoning
1. They are second only to the bears in cap space, but have most of their roster signed..
2. Their owner is one of the richest in the league and can afford a quarter million dollar escrow account..
3. They are in dire need of a QB
4. They have the draft capital to trade for him with the 8th overall pick
5. It might not be florida, but its probably the closest team to it…
Jackson comes from Florida.. Jacksonville doesn’t need a QB at all
Miami’s owner is rich enough to make a play for him, but is probably is happy with Tua.. plus they are tight with cap space and have no first round pick… trading tua by himself with lesser picks around him probably wouldn’t be a good opening bid…
Tampa suddenly needs a qb, but they are second worst in cap space …

Other close teams like New Orleans are also cap strapped… and while its not undoable, Carolina is about 9 million over the cap right now… the best options to clear stuff up probably cripple the offense


Yes. A stupid team can trade with Baltimore while the price is still high. I wish the Ravens would meet his mama's demands. Pay the man! He been badly hurt two seasons in a row, and as you point out his running days are coming to end soon. Too bad with his sulky ways, non passing talents I had hoped the Ravens offer him a new cap busting type of contact.
 
Yes. A stupid team can trade with Baltimore while the price is still high. I wish the Ravens would meet his mama's demands. Pay the man! He been badly hurt two seasons in a row, and as you point out his running days are coming to end soon. Too bad with his sulky ways, non passing talents I had hoped the Ravens offer him a new cap busting type of contact.
What is this mama stuff you are regurgitating? I would think his mama isn't his agent... I would presume that is more on action Jackson.
 
What is this mama stuff you are regurgitating? I would think his mama isn't his agent... I would presume that is more on action Jackson.
You know Cooch, he takes things he has heard or read and extrapolates them to the umpteenth degree. The fact is that Jackson has never had an agent work on his contract. He and his mother negotiated his rookie deal. Which was pretty smart actually. Since rookie deals are slotted, he wasn't going to get any more or less than his slotted value. Negotiating for himself (with his mother's advice) in this instance saved him whatever the agent's percentage would have been.
For this second contract, he demoted his mother to "manager" and is working as his own agent. Smart? I tend to think maybe not since there would definitely be more in depth negotiations needed for this contract. But, since all contracts are pretty much public record through the NFLPA, he could possibly use the Watson contract as a boiler plate/template for his own.

I digress. Cooch obviously believes that Lamar's mother is still acting as his co-agent. Even though he has demoted her to "manager" status. And since Cooch believes his mother is still a co-agent, she obviously must be driving the negotiations. There is also the implication that if Jackson's mother is acting as his co-agent, she is not intelligent, sophisticated or versed in NFL contracts enough to do the best for her son.

OH, here's a Google link to the information about co-agent, manager, etc.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lam...5l2j0i390l5.8133j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
 
You know Cooch, he takes things he has heard or read and extrapolates them to the umpteenth degree. The fact is that Jackson has never had an agent work on his contract. He and his mother negotiated his rookie deal. Which was pretty smart actually. Since rookie deals are slotted, he wasn't going to get any more or less than his slotted value. Negotiating for himself (with his mother's advice) in this instance saved him whatever the agent's percentage would have been.
For this second contract, he demoted his mother to "manager" and is working as his own agent. Smart? I tend to think maybe not since there would definitely be more in depth negotiations needed for this contract. But, since all contracts are pretty much public record through the NFLPA, he could possibly use the Watson contract as a boiler plate/template for his own.

I digress. Cooch obviously believes that Lamar's mother is still acting as his co-agent. Even though he has demoted her to "manager" status. And since Cooch believes his mother is still a co-agent, she obviously must be driving the negotiations. There is also the implication that if Jackson's mother is acting as his co-agent, she is not intelligent, sophisticated or versed in NFL contracts enough to do the best for her son.

OH, here's a Google link to the information about co-agent, manager, etc.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lamar+jackson's+mother+contract&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS874US874&oq=lamar+jackson's+mother+contract&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30i625l2j0i390l5.8133j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Thanks for giving us this information OneEye.
 
Thanks for giving us this information OneEye.
No problem Douche. If you need to actually research anything, Google is your friend. (Most likely your only one. So, you shouldn't ignore it so much.)
 
There is a post about this on FB. Its not a story saying this is the deal Its what they are projecting will happen. Nothing has happened yet that i know of.
 
The thing is before Jimmy Jackass over in Cleveland gave out a ridiculous amount of guaranteed money to Watson, nobody had the gall to want a quarter of a billion dollars guaranteed… Jackson is his own agent.. he has no reasonable soul in his entourage telling him that in doing that type of contract, tge Ravens will have to gut the team in areas he needs…

He has one elite skill.. his running ability.. and how is that going to help him as he ages and slows down? The ravens are not stupid… they will trade him while qb prices are high…


My prediction is Atlanta… here is the reasoning
1. They are second only to the bears in cap space, but have most of their roster signed..
2. Their owner is one of the richest in the league and can afford a quarter million dollar escrow account..
3. They are in dire need of a QB
4. They have the draft capital to trade for him with the 8th overall pick
5. It might not be florida, but its probably the closest team to it…
Jackson comes from Florida.. Jacksonville doesn’t need a QB at all
Miami’s owner is rich enough to make a play for him, but is probably is happy with Tua.. plus they are tight with cap space and have no first round pick… trading tua by himself with lesser picks around him probably wouldn’t be a good opening bid…
Tampa suddenly needs a qb, but they are second worst in cap space …

Other close teams like New Orleans are also cap strapped… and while its not undoable, Carolina is about 9 million over the cap right now… the best options to clear stuff up probably cripple the offense
Atlanta would completely embrace Jackson as well. He'd be an instant superstar in a town that loves electric playmakers on the football field. From just a marketing standpoint it'd be a tremendous move.
 
My prediction is Atlanta… here is the reasoning
1. They are second only to the bears in cap space, but have most of their roster signed..
2. Their owner is one of the richest in the league and can afford a quarter million dollar escrow account..
3. They are in dire need of a QB
4. They have the draft capital to trade for him with the 8th overall pick
5. It might not be florida, but its probably the closest team to it…
I don't think the Falcons are in dire need of a quarterback. Desmond Ridder didn't throw a single interception as a rookie, and won his last two starts. I believe they'll give him a chance at the starting job.

 
No problem Douche. If you need to actually research anything, Google is your friend. (Most likely your only one. So, you shouldn't ignore it so much.)


What’s that you say……….. speak up O’l OneEye, I can’t hear you !!!!

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I saw something recently indicating they might franchise him, which leads me to believe they are still unaware that he’s terrible.
 
I don't think the Falcons are in dire need of a quarterback. Desmond Ridder didn't throw a single interception as a rookie, and won his last two starts. I believe they'll give him a chance at the starting job.
Maybe, and to your point when a newspaper piece came out saying the Falcons really needed to get a QB, Arthur Banks was quick to endorse him… the reality is that he is still pretty raw and if they give him a full year next year, he will most likely go through more growing pains than pickett did last season…
The issue becomes that both their GM and their Coach are in year 3 of their rebuild… they need results, not on the job training at the key position on the team. If they opted to bring in Action Jackson, it almost certainly would cost them their first and probably Ridder too… which is why they probably could outbid most teams on price… the Hairball can go back to the offense he is more comfortable with… aka strong run game and Te… thats key for a young qb…

Frankly I d rather that not happen
 
I truly bleed B&G, so when I say this, if the Ravens are $100M apart, they know what they want to pay him and what he's worth to them. That is a huge gap.. They are a smart franchise, yea, scorch me for saying that, but I could see this working out really well for the Ravens. The Atlanta scenario makes sense and they will be able to stock up in the draft and still get a Derek Carr/Jimmy G. QB to take over. I would love LJ to get a record breaking/team strapped contract, but I don't think the Ravens want to go there. They are smarter than that.
 
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I truly bleed B&G, so when I say this, if the Ravens are $100M apart, they know what they want to pay him and what he;s worth to them. That is a huge gap.. They are a smart franchise, yea, scorch me for saying that, but I could see this working out really well for the Ravens. The Atlanta scenario makes sense and they will be able to stock up in the draft and still get a Derek Carr/Jimmy G. QB to rake over. I would love LJ to get a record breaking/team strapped contract, but I don't think the Ravens want to go there. They are smarter than that.
I think the 100 million difference is mostly in the guaranteed money… i think the team wants an out in case he falls apart and i think he wants tge fully guaranteed money that Watson got
 
I think the 100 million difference is mostly in the guaranteed money… i think the team wants an out in case he falls apart and i think he wants tge fully guaranteed money that Watson got
Thing is I don't know if anyone would give him that
 
Thing is I don't know if anyone would give him that

I holding out that the ravens give him enough in money and time to handicap themselves.


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Latest rumor......

Jackson and a 6th in '25 go to Atlanta for Desmond Rider, Falcons 1st rounders in '23, '24 AND '25 and a 4th rounder in '23.
 
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