**** that game that was the game the refs decided to not call holding on Gerrad QB run. At least three Steelers were blatantly held.
Kicker Josh Scobee traded to STEELERS!
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Hindsight is always 20/20.
Make sure to bookmark that Archer thread. I know you can't wait to crow when that hammer falls...
Make sure to bookmark that Archer thread. I know you can't wait to crow when that hammer falls...
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Hindsight is always 20/20.
Make sure to bookmark that Archer thread. I know you can't wait to crow when that hammer falls...
Nothing for me to crow about since I didn't even post in this thread. Just an interesting read.
Meh I still would have kept him for his kickoffs...and signed someone to kick FGs... that would be a better use of a roster spot than the KR who returns one or two a game for barely any yardage
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Why does everyone say this? No. There's only 53 roster spots, not as many as you want, and I certainly can't find any logic in keeping 2 kickers, especially one that doesn't do **** except kick offs. That's as big of a waste of a roster spot as Archer is taking up.
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OUR new kicker can also punt!!!! Kind of a nice option to have. Archer, can KR touch backs........all day long !!!!! What kind of option is that?? I bet our new kicker could do as well back there as "the archer", Cut - n - Dry are our ONLY options for dri
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Seattle has a pretty good kicker, sigh.
The Jags had a two season wonder and were done after 07
in this day and age letting teams return kickoffs is absurd... last year we almost never put one out of the end zone. Kickoff rules changed in 2011... in 2010 the leader in touchbacks was Baltimore at 46%... we were at just under 9% the league average in the mid 20% the year before we had a pathetic 3% rate.... after the rule change everyone's numbers leaped up... the league leaders went from under 50% to between 60 and 75% in 2011 to now... our numbers with Suishum went from single digits to 30-40%, still annually among the worse teams. this caused tons of great returns that should have never been.
This year our kickoff touchback numbers leaped to over 60%. the majority of actual returns were tackled behind the 20 or within a few yards of the 20. its been a huge swing in field position, not because of coverage, because they have had the time to get down there and get holes plugged before the runner hits them....
there is zero reason to carry a kickoff returner... less then 20% are actually returnable, most returns should be taken as touchbacks, returners just get fed up and bring them out regardless. There is a huge reason to make sure whoever is kicking off for you can blast most out of the end zone... you can be talking about a lot more points for the other team than one will ever miss in field goals, and also momentum killer returns after big scores.... I think a team that willfully ignores kickoff position like the steelers do is absolutely stupid in this day and age... its not like the 90's and 00's when most kicks were returnable anyhow so it didn't matter... you are surrendering a HUGE advantage by carrying only a kicker who can make field goals but not give you a return advantage... unless, of course, the punter can boot them deep on the kickoff...
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Last year we allowed 54 kicks to be returned with an avg field position just beyond the 23 yard line. One of those 54 returns went for a 108 yard TD.
This year we were on pace to allow 28 returns on KOs with a field position avg under 20 yards. I'll take the longer KOs and ditch the guy who is on pace to return 12 kickoffs all year. His spot on the roster is NOT worth 12 touches. An extra kicker who specializes in deep kickoffs would be more valuable to the team especially when the weather gets colder.
Let us remember the value of having an accurate Field Goal Kicker. While we remember how both of those kickers we lost to injury were injured...on kickoffs. I'd sign 2 kickers right now and dump the guy who will have less impact. One kicker for FGs and one for kickoffs (out of the endzone).
This year we were on pace to allow 28 returns on KOs with a field position avg under 20 yards. I'll take the longer KOs and ditch the guy who is on pace to return 12 kickoffs all year. His spot on the roster is NOT worth 12 touches. An extra kicker who specializes in deep kickoffs would be more valuable to the team especially when the weather gets colder.
Let us remember the value of having an accurate Field Goal Kicker. While we remember how both of those kickers we lost to injury were injured...on kickoffs. I'd sign 2 kickers right now and dump the guy who will have less impact. One kicker for FGs and one for kickoffs (out of the endzone).
I remember Tyrone Carter, frantically chasing him down. Then I just remembered the Tank Carter prison time for going to the Super Bowl story...and smiled
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I'm still trying to figure out what Suisham was doing tackling in the pre-season.
Hindsight is always 20/20.
Make sure to bookmark that Archer thread. I know you can't wait to crow when that hammer falls...
That Archer thread was a hall of fame thread that ought to be stickied forever. Damn shame the mods locked it.
Wouldn't the more prudent roster spot be for a kicker that can kick the ball anywhere from 3-4 yards deep to 7-8 yards deep with regularity. This entices the KR to actually return the KO and expose his team to either a return short of the 20 or a fumble. KRs are itching to return kicks because most of them are sailing out of the end zone, these enticingly short/deep kicks could have the returner make a bad decision. I'm not sure that I would just have the kicker bomb it out of the end zone. I think as a team you can use the KO as a positive play to change the game. That's what I'd be shooting for.
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When the temperature approaches freezing, KRs are very valuable. Good to keep one for the stretch and into the playoffs when we have the ability to flip the field with a good return. Kudos for already getting a 31 yarder. Nearly the return record from last year!
I've also always been a big fan of a punter who can also kickoff. That's where you want the strong leg to be.
I've also always been a big fan of a punter who can also kickoff. That's where you want the strong leg to be.
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I felt we could have waited and saved a 6th round pick and cap space. The Jags got the deal. The steelers got duped.