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Enrique Marquez wasn't Muslim.
Manchester bombing.
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Enrique Marquez wasn't Muslim.
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Well the other 99% of suicide bombers are Muslim so ya know.....I'll play those odds.
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By that reply, I'm guessing you don't know or don't remember who Enrique Marquez was.
Christians named John Smith.
He sure acted like one.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-ber...y-enrique-marquez-jr-knew-aspiring-jihadists/
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Yes, that's the point. Even if there was a database of registered Muslim assault weapons owners, he wouldn't show up in it. The slope gets even more slippery.
This problem won't be solved until Islam reforms itself from within, or just fades away. Until them, we should be very wary about importing more Muslims form abroad.
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Trog, you're missing the point. You know and everyone here knows, it's MOSTLY Muslims on the terrorist watch lists. If you increase the number of Muslims in this country, you are going to increase the number of watch list people. Agreed?
So isn't it prudent to increase that number only to the capabilities of the FBI to effectively WATCH those people on the WATCH LIST?
Obviously, that is NOT what Europe is doing. And people like this guy in Britain are slipping through the cracks and getting far enough along in their plots to execute their plans and kill innocent people.
Everyone wants to hide behind this imaginary "vetting process". The right using the language to restrict, the left using the language to allow. But we all know the vetting process isn't really what the problem is. It's just the shear numbers and statistical likelihood of Muslims (some immigrant, some born here) becoming extremist. That percentage exists no matter what vetting countries use.
These terrorist attacks follow Muslims around the world wherever they go. It's not rocket science. Wherever Muslims go that is not full-blown Sharia Law or ruled by an iron fist, terrorist attacks happen. They are even happening in some "moderately Muslim" areas in Southeast Asia now.
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That wasn't the discussion as I see it. We were debating the merits of violating people's rights in the interest of public safety. The refugee and immigration issue is another topic and not really relevant to my point as both the Manchester and San Bernandino (and Boston) attackers were natives of the countries they attacked. A more relevant topic would be surveillance of native citizens who travel to certain countries and come back.
This post was more of an indictment of ISIS than anything else. Was just trying to shed a little more light on those barbarians calling themselves ISIS/ISIL from a guy who's had plenty of up-close and personal experience.
But Tibs, we just need more love and openness and these barbarians will just go away, right?
Katy Perry:
Justin Timberlake:
Because those kids at the Ariana Grande concert weren't loving enough?
U.S. Democratic Senator Chris Murphy
Because the U.K. were using damning rhetoric that spurred this Manchester atrocity?
Unreal.
A couple of Amish pranksters............
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/05/24/mpls-brothers-arsenal-arrest/
MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — There are growing concerns about the arrest of two brothers with ties to the Middle East who authorities say had an arsenal with bomb-making materials, guns and ammunition in their car.
Twenty-seven-year-old Abdullah Alrifahe and 26-year-old Majid Alrifahe were arrested on May 11 in north Minneapolis.
Abdullah is being held in the Hennepin County Jail. His brother, Majid, has been released and is facing minor charges.
WCCO-TV has confirmed that both Homeland Security and the FBI are involved in the investigation, which started outside a federally-subsidized senior housing project. A good Samaritan confronted the men about littering from their car.
Inside the brothers’ car, police found a loaded AK-47, another rifle, a handgun, a grenade, large amounts of ammunition, and what would later be identified as bomb-making materials, including a drone.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/05/24/mpls-brothers-arsenal-arrest/
MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — There are growing concerns about the arrest of two brothers with ties to the Middle East who authorities say had an arsenal with bomb-making materials, guns and ammunition in their car.
Twenty-seven-year-old Abdullah Alrifahe and 26-year-old Majid Alrifahe were arrested on May 11 in north Minneapolis.
Abdullah is being held in the Hennepin County Jail. His brother, Majid, has been released and is facing minor charges.
WCCO-TV has confirmed that both Homeland Security and the FBI are involved in the investigation, which started outside a federally-subsidized senior housing project. A good Samaritan confronted the men about littering from their car.
Inside the brothers’ car, police found a loaded AK-47, another rifle, a handgun, a grenade, large amounts of ammunition, and what would later be identified as bomb-making materials, including a drone.
goddamned NRA
I knew those ******* Mormons were up to no good.
Elfie's demanding answers as we speak as the names listed must be a clerical error. Something closer to Albert and Mark.
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Again with the appeasement
Manchester Bomber Repeatedly Reported to Authorities over Five Year Period
The police and security services missed at least five opportunities over five years to stop Salman Abedi from carrying out his deadly terror attack, it has emerged. Following the deadly attack at the Manchester Arena by Abedi on Tuesday night, which claimed 22 lives, questions are being raised as to why the British authorities did little to follow up on repeated reports from friends and community members that Abedi was radicalised and had expressed support for suicide bombing.
The reports date back five years, when two youth workers are said to have phoned an anti-terrorism hotline to report concerns over Adebi’s “extreme views” whilst he was completing his last year at school, the BBC has reported.
Two of Abedi’s friends were also so concerned about his behaviour that they separately phoned the hotline, five years ago, and again in 2016.
“They had been worried that ‘he was supporting terrorism’ and had expressed the view that ‘being a suicide bomber was ok’,” a source told the BBC.
Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, told The Telegraph that community members also reported Abedi to the authorities two years ago “because he thought he was involved in extremism and terrorism”.
“People in the community expressed concerns about the way this man was behaving and reported it in the right way using the right channels,” Shafiq said.
“They did not hear anything since.”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...tedly-reported-authorities-friends-community/
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No wonder the Brits are desperate to keep this story quiet
Manchester Bomber Repeatedly Reported to Authorities over Five Year Period
The police and security services missed at least five opportunities over five years to stop Salman Abedi from carrying out his deadly terror attack, it has emerged. Following the deadly attack at the Manchester Arena by Abedi on Tuesday night, which claimed 22 lives, questions are being raised as to why the British authorities did little to follow up on repeated reports from friends and community members that Abedi was radicalised and had expressed support for suicide bombing.
The reports date back five years, when two youth workers are said to have phoned an anti-terrorism hotline to report concerns over Adebi’s “extreme views” whilst he was completing his last year at school, the BBC has reported.
Two of Abedi’s friends were also so concerned about his behaviour that they separately phoned the hotline, five years ago, and again in 2016.
“They had been worried that ‘he was supporting terrorism’ and had expressed the view that ‘being a suicide bomber was ok’,” a source told the BBC.
Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, told The Telegraph that community members also reported Abedi to the authorities two years ago “because he thought he was involved in extremism and terrorism”.
“People in the community expressed concerns about the way this man was behaving and reported it in the right way using the right channels,” Shafiq said.
“They did not hear anything since.”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...tedly-reported-authorities-friends-community/
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No wonder the Brits are desperate to keep this story quiet
I think we would all be for that ALSO. In addition to banning immigrants from countries that simply cannot vet their own.
Sensibility.
Prior to Teddy and their agendas, the countries with immigrants deemed acceptable had like values to our value systems. Meaning, liberty, free speech, freedom of RELIGION, land ownership, etc. etc. No commies need apply. You could take your terrorist countries and completely remove them from immigration approval. Illegals on our soil? Not a lot compared to today. I lived on the AZ border. It was nothing like the cesspool of poverty and crime that we've allowed to walk right in and make themselves at home. Gang members, murderers, you name it. Wow.
My"thought" for the day....
Always a good idea, right ?
Always a good idea, right ?
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How many more are there? Were they too busy with tracking all the others?
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Oh, the irony of citing a Breitbart article about reporting extremist views...
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Don't worry... it's only 1%
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ptian-men-combat-sexual-harassment/101717652/
That 1% must be doing 99.3% of woman in Egypt being sexual assaulted. Nothing to see here.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ptian-men-combat-sexual-harassment/101717652/
That 1% must be doing 99.3% of woman in Egypt being sexual assaulted. Nothing to see here.
