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Manchester bombing.

Agreed, I don't want an echo chamber. Idiots have the right to spew their opinions here, as evidenced of late.

You are right. I resend my statement. Banning free speech is their gig. He does show us first hand the views of an actual living breathing communist still living in a former communist country. Old habits die hard I guess. Plus he is a good source of entertainment. Almost to the level of Hank the Tank.
 
I understand I post some uncomfortable truths on a board filled with pro-Trump sentiment. To you that's rubbish, as you've never been interested in actual dialogue. It is in fact a pro-Trump echo chamber you all desire. It pains you when that creature comfort is snatched away and the facts - and reality - come crashing down on you. I understand this is painful and unpleasant for you, Spike, Indy and others. I will do my best not to ruffle your feathers as you try to convince yourselves of, well, whatever it is you're trying to convince yourselves of.

Still crying. Must I say we enjoy your tears nearly as much as your desperation while performing as the lemming the Left desires you to be.

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It's gonna be okay snowflakes, take a deep breath. Feel free to let us know when ISIS is eradicated, as promised.

Tibs, it sounds as if you are using a tragedy to get ahead in some sort of game. What gives?
 
Tibs, it sounds as if you are using a tragedy to get ahead in some sort of game. What gives?
Just carrying on a decades long tradition here at SN of immediately lambasting the president when terrorists strike. Feel free to review the past eight years or so on the subject, and get back to me on this. But in essence I agree with your point, that this is not the place or time for political grandstanding. So I apologize for that.
 
Theresa May condemns 'sickening cowardice' of Manchester attack

“All acts of terrorism are cowardly attacks on innocent people, but this attack stands out for its appalling, sickening cowardice, deliberately targeting innocent, defenceless children and young people who should have been enjoying one of the most memorable nights of their lives,” the prime minister said

May, who will travel to Manchester later on Tuesday, said the city had “fallen victim to a callous terror attack, which targeted some of the youngest people in our society with cold calculation”.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...emns-sickening-cowardice-of-manchester-attack

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Here we go again.....OMG backlash...


ABC: Manchester Attack ‘Likely to Inflame Anti-Islamic Sentiment’


“Good Morning America,” co-host George Stephanopoulos and ABC Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz stated that the attack in Manchester could lead to anti-Muslim backlash.



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Truths lol. I don't think truth is a word attributed to your socialist drivel.
 
PM Theresa May raises UK threat level to 'critical'

The move means that military personnel could be deployed to support armed police officers.

"It is a possibility that we cannot ignore that there a wider group of individuals linked to this attack," Mrs May said.

She said that the threat level was under constant review.

"The change in the threat level means there will be additional support available to the police as they work to keep us safe," she said.

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-05-23/uk-threat-level-raised-to-critical-severe/


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Police are on the lookout for no groups in particular, and certainly no minorities of uncertain national identity.
 
Ban Tibs, bring back POP


CNN Analyst Suggests Manchester Bombing Was A False Flag: Blames “Right-Wing Extremists

The young singer Ariana Grande, whose fans were targeted and slaughtered by ISIS is no stranger to political controversy.

She famously shouted, “I hate Americans I hate America. ” in a public place before committed a grotesque act of vandalism.

http://theduran.com/manchester-bombing-singer-i-hate-americans-i-hate-america/
 
Ban Tibs, bring back POP


CNN Analyst Suggests Manchester Bombing Was A False Flag: Blames “Right-Wing Extremists

The young singer Ariana Grande, whose fans were targeted and slaughtered by ISIS is no stranger to political controversy.

She famously shouted, “I hate Americans I hate America. ” in a public place before committed a grotesque act of vandalism.

http://theduran.com/manchester-bombing-singer-i-hate-americans-i-hate-america/

CNN.....Communist News Network . The enemy within. Plain as day.
 
the govt knew about his ties and training with ISIS, but did little to stop him. If the terrorists are already there, born there, it's just a wait and see approach to when they strike. At any point, they will carry out their act, when it's least expected and to cause as much carnage as possible. Do you start arresting with anyone with ISIS ties or suspect that they do? I don't know the answer.
 
the govt knew about his ties and training with ISIS, but did little to stop him. If the terrorists are already there, born there, it's just a wait and see approach to when they strike. At any point, they will carry out their act, when it's least expected and to cause as much carnage as possible. Do you start arresting with anyone with ISIS ties or suspect that they do? I don't know the answer.

No because that would be bigoted and Islamophobic.
 
the govt knew about his ties and training with ISIS, but did little to stop him. If the terrorists are already there, born there, it's just a wait and see approach to when they strike. At any point, they will carry out their act, when it's least expected and to cause as much carnage as possible. Do you start arresting with anyone with ISIS ties or suspect that they do? I don't know the answer.

There was a very good interview this morning on NPR and I thought he said something very important.

He implied that when any country allows too many Muslim immigrants/migrants into their country too quickly, it overburdens an otherwise good Terrorist Intelligence gathering agency. He said over the past 5 years, Britain's interior anti-terrorism group couldn't keep up with all the added names to their watch list. That this is an example of a guy "slipping through the cracks" even though he was correctly flagged as a potential extremist/terrorist.

That is a DAMNING critique to those on the left that want to increase Muslim immigration into this country and allow a massive influx of refugees from Muslim nations. The vetting process isn't enough. Once here, many HAVE to go on watch lists to verify they are not starting to fraternize with internal anti-American groups, Mosques, etc.

Think of how many Muslims have been recently added to Germany's watch list. There is no way an agency can handle that type of increase in potentially dangerous terrorist. Even if only 1 out of a 100 Muslims end up on watch lists (and I would argue it's probably more than that), Germany has added 10,000 people to their "watch list" with likely underfunded increase to their Anti-Terrorism budget/workforce.

This is an example to all the left that open borders and increased refugee allowances is NOT the answer. Not when your internal anti-Terrorist networks can't handle the increase in workload. You are asking for trouble.

The key is and always has been assimilation. And if assimilation isn't happening, you slow the influx of that group until is does.

The 1880's isn't calling and asking for their immigration policy back. This is NOT the same situation as what our country did from 1850-1920 with immigration policy. And immigration policy isn't and has never been about altruism.

Do we need immigration? Absolutely. But when millions are asking to come here from all parts of the globe, what logical reason exists to let those in that statistically pose the most threat over those that don't? That makes no sense to me. Why is a Muslim more important to you than another Guatemalan or Filipino or Australian? Aren't all equally worthy of the privilege of an American work visa or path to citizenship? What logic exists that says we should push Muslims up the waiting list when so many others are also on that list right now? How is it not in the country's best interest to use that standard based on world-wide events and recent history?

And do not make the argument we should just increase the size of allowable immigration list to accommodate Muslims. They have not earned that privilege based on events/statistical evidence in Europe. They have not proven to me they bring more good with them vs. bad. The litmus test doesn't pass my muster. I would rather have a Guatemalan or Filipino or Mexican or Hungarian on the list. And I know those people wanting to get the privileges of America are there waiting and hoping their names are called.
 
all good points, deljzc. The dam has leaked too much to get a handle on the overflow. It's wonderful to give us your tired, your poor into our country, but this is not yesteryear. Times have changed and all immigrants are not looking for a better life, some are looking to end ours and anyone that opposed their views.
 
Bomb suspect's dad linked to al-Qaida-backed group, says son is innocent

LONDON — The father of the alleged Manchester arena bomber denies his son is linked to militants or the suicide bombing that killed 22 people.

Ramadan Abedi says he spoke to his 22-year-old son, Salman Abedi, five days ago and he was getting ready to visit Saudi Arabia and sounded "normal." He said his son visited Libya a month-and-a-half ago. The father added that Salman was planning to head from Saudi Arabia to Libya to spend the holy month of Ramadan with family

Meanwhile, a former Libyan security official says the father was allegedly a member of a former al-Qaida-backed group in Libya. Former Libyan security official Abdel-Basit Haroun said on Wednesday he personally knew Ramadan Abedi and that the he was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group in the 1990s

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...nnocent/ar-BBBukgm?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

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He was such a good boy

Obama's Muslim Brotherhood
 
Britain on lockdown: Army deploys 1,000 heavily-armed soldiers to guard London, Parliament is closed to the public and Changing of the Guard is cancelled

Soldiers will replace armed police at sites including Buckingham Palace, Downing Street, and the Palace of Westminster. Lines of soldiers filed into the Houses of Parliament today in the largest-scale deployment at the world-famous site since the Second World War.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4536602/Buckingham-Palace-military-armed-guard.html
 
They are protecting the elites, the children on the streets have to take care of themselves

That's why the elites like immigration. At least until the people have had enough and vote them out before there are too many Muslims (like in France).
 
Found out today Manchester is now 15% Muslim..... Way too many to assimilate into British culture. That kind of percentage is a disaster waiting to happen. Well has happened.
 
What i don't understand is how can intelligence know about these people and follow them but not do anything. After the attacks there are like of yeah we knew about him, he was on our radar.
 
What i don't understand is how can intelligence know about these people and follow them but not do anything. After the attacks there are like of yeah we knew about him, he was on our radar.

They have rights in the U.K. and "doing something" is a slippery slope. As awful as acts like these are, we need to be careful for what we wish. Every extended reach of what the government can do sets a precedent.
 
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