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Mike Tomlin destroying the Steelers.

Steelr4evr said:
I've said this for a few years now. Nothing ever changes with these guys during the season. Nothing. They say it all the time. We're going to stick with what we're doing. We won't alter what we do. I don't see us changing much, just some tweaks. Just terminology like that all the time. I stopped watching the press conference stuff years ago. It's the same song and dance. Just "coach speak".

Cowher was absolutely given a restocked team and he carried that physical we will make you pay for every yard against us. We will run the football.


We don't have anything that resembles Pittsburgh Steeler Football in my opinion.

Following "The Standard" is a nice catch phrase, but they don't have a clue what that's about. That brand of football is what most Steeler fans love. Certainly all of us long time fans.


Going to need some new coaches and probably a new GM to get back what's been lost. That's probably going to take some time. They didn't get this way overnight.
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I think we have an idea of what Tomlin has been trying to do. I think he wants a team that can be a running team one week, a passing team the next and do both well. Be multidimensional, like the Pats were with Brady. The problem is they have never been able to pull it off for one reason or another.

You know this, for the 90s, Cowher setting up his teams that way would get you into the playoffs, to AFCC games or even the SB, but was never quite enough to get over the top. Teams with more refined passing games, or more multidimensional, would beat them. Then he got Ben.

So anyway, I think I have seen what he is trying to do. He has failed. Maybe it is time to try to see if someone else can.
 
diver said:
I think we have an idea of what Tomlin has been trying to do. I think he wants a team that can be a running team one week, a passing team the next and do both well. Be multidimensional, like the Pats were with Brady. The problem is they have never been able to pull it off for one reason or another.

You know this, for the 90s, Cowher setting up his teams that way would get you into the playoffs, to AFCC games or even the SB, but was never quite enough to get over the top. Teams with more refined passing games, or more multidimensional, would beat them. Then he got Ben.

So anyway, I think I have seen what he is trying to do. He has failed. Maybe it is time to try to see if someone else can.
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The ONLY thing Cowher's teams were missing was QB. Once Ben got there the SB came pretty fast. I can't fault Cowher for leaving as time had taken it's toll. You can't deny it was Cowher's team that Ben took to SB the second time.

This may be a little unfair but by the time we get 10 first round draft picks on offense then our defense will be old.






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TDX27 said:
Tomlin will figure a way to win enough to get us back to the middle of the pack
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Don't bet your house on it.

The Steelers have won mostly in spite of Tomlin, not because of him. They're just not good enough this year to keep his non-losing record intact. Most of us knew Tomlin would suffer when Ben was gone. And Ben is playing like he's already left.
 
Drink IRON City said:
The ONLY thing Cowher's teams were missing was QB. Once Ben got there the SB came pretty fast. I can't fault Cowher for leaving as time had taken it's toll. You can't deny it was Cowher's team that Ben took to SB the second time.

This may be a little unfair but by the time we get 10 first round draft picks on offense then our defense will be old.
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Even in the 2010 SB loss about half the roster and almost all the assistant coaches from 2005 were still there.
The Steelers will never get to another SB as long as Shades is head coach.
He has I think two more years on his contract and I'd look for him to retire when it runs out.
 
topseed said:
Don't bet your house on it.

The Steelers have won mostly in spite of Tomlin, not because of him. They're just not good enough this year to keep his non-losing record intact. Most of us knew Tomlin would suffer when Ben was gone. And Ben is playing like he's already left.
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I'd actually rather we take a hit and not get back to the middle so we get a good pick. But, Tomlin always seems to find a way to **** that up too. A top 10 pick would be huge for this team. The QB class is weak but we could get a stud OL or they could take a shot at a CB, even though they suck at drafting CB's.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Even in the 2010 SB loss about half the roster and almost all the assistant coaches from 2005 were still there.
The Steelers will never get to another SB as long as Shades is head coach.
He has I think two more years on his contract and I'd look for him to retire when it runs out.
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RETIRE

If not willingly then team announced. Then to see some team like the bengals or Detroit pick him up with-in hours............................................ LoL

Yep, you and I will laugh out loud.!!!






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Ron Burgundy said:
Even in the 2010 SB loss about half the roster and almost all the assistant coaches from 2005 were still there.
The Steelers will never get to another SB as long as Shades is head coach.
He has I think two more years on his contract and I'd look for him to retire when it runs out.
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He rode the Cowher team until the Tebowing and was never able to regain the same balance or kinetic energy.
 
SojournerSteel said:
He rode the Cowher team until the Tebowing and was never able to regain the same balance or kinetic energy.
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At the moment I'm getting my jollies torturing the Tomlin ball washers in a Steelers FB group by saying that he won with Cowher's team and assistant coaches. They really have no defense. The stats and rosters are on my side. :D
 
Drink IRON City said:
RETIRE

If not willingly then team announced. Then to see some team like the bengals or Detroit pick him up with-in hours............................................ LoL

Yep, you and I will laugh out loud.!!!






Salute the nation
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I'll be laughing my *** off. But I think Tomlin has way too much intelligence to accept a job with a bottom feeder and fail. He may not have a high football IQ but I think he's pretty smart.
 
steelcan58 said:
I'll be laughing my *** off. But I think Tomlin has way too much intelligence to accept a job with a bottom feeder and fail. He may not have a high football IQ but I think he's pretty smart.
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As Bill Cowher found out, TV pays pretty well and it's a lot less work.
 
Personally, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that Watts' tripping penalty against Rogers was ordered by Tomlin because he had no other answer on either offense or defense. Last week, Ben had a broken pec. This week it's hip issues. Next week, he'll tell us that Ben is in a full body cast. Regardless, the cheerleader insists that he feels good about having broken Ben at the helm. Perhaps he's watching other games on his i-phone while his own team is having their *** handed to them week in and week out.

What do you all think? Is the cheerleader subjecting us to a broken and battered Ben in an attempt to overshadow his own incompetence, ineffectivesness, and lack of leadership? It's either that or he just simply doesn't have the balls to bench Ben. Take your pick as to which scenario best describes our so-called "coach". Either way, it's a disgrace to this organization, a slap in the face to the fans, and as a result, Mr. 'We Won't Blink' needs to be sent packing ASAP.
 
Burgettstown Bob said:
Personally, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that Watts' tripping penalty against Rogers was ordered by Tomlin because he had no other answer on either offense or defense. Last week, Ben had a broken pec. This week it's hip issues. Next week, he'll tell us that Ben is in a full body cast. Regardless, the cheerleader insists that he feels good about having broken Ben at the helm. Perhaps he's watching other games on his i-phone while his own team is having their *** handed to them week in and week out.

What do you all think? Is the cheerleader subjecting us to a broken and battered Ben in an attempt to overshadow his own incompetence, ineffectivesness, and lack of leadership? It's either that or he just simply doesn't have the balls to bench Ben. Take your pick as to which scenario best describes our so-called "coach". Either way, it's a disgrace to this organization, a slap in the face to the fans, and as a result, Mr. 'We Won't Blink' needs to be sent packing ASAP.
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we don't need another Tomlin sucks thread so this gets merged
 
His bug eyed look is awful for TV. Guy just looks dumb is dumb and will always be dumb. That's why he talks in his roundabout bullshit manner full of non sequiturs and odd way of phrasing and saying nothing.
 
there was no tripping penalty, the flag was picked up

that is something that happens in the heat of the play, it was not clearly a trip Watt was moving that direction anyway

If you wish to start a thread have some kind of original thought to discuss
 
TDX27 said:
I'd actually rather we take a hit and not get back to the middle so we get a good pick. But, Tomlin always seems to find a way to **** that up too. A top 10 pick would be huge for this team. The QB class is weak but we could get a stud OL or they could take a shot at a CB, even though they suck at drafting CB's.
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Definitely go with the OL stud, to much negative on the CBs taken history.





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steelcan58 said:
Tomlin would have screwed up Mel Blount if he drafted him out of college.
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Sometimes I get so down on the coaching that I think a really good player fizzes out and I call them "Tomlinised". Minka may be headed that direction if things continue.




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MB47 said:
His bug eyed look is awful for TV. Guy just looks dumb is dumb and will always be dumb. That's why he talks in his roundabout bullshit manner full of non sequiturs and odd way of phrasing and saying nothing.
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That's why the Josh Pray press conference spoofs are so funny.

 
Ron Burgundy said:


At the moment I'm getting my jollies torturing the Tomlin ball washers in a Steelers FB group by saying that he won with Cowher's team and assistant coaches. They really have no defense. The stats and rosters are on my side. :D
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It is hard to defend against an assinine argument.

Tomlin won that Super Bowl.

I just got back from trap shooting. I friend let me shoot his Citori and I shot great with it. I guess, according to that idiot logic, he shot the score.

Tomlin needs to go. No argument here. But stop with the stupid ****.
 
Sure. A functional QB would be a huge upgrade from what we have now, but having a leader with a plan, someone who can make adjustments as needed, manage the clock, and have control of the locker room is paramount to be a serious contender. Even if we had Rogers or Watson under center, their play would only get us so far. As things stand now, I'd say that Tomlin's ineffectiveness as a coach is equally as big of a problem as broken Ben. Hopefully Rooney feels the pressure to clean house this off-season, although I'm sure we'll see some like-clockwork, weak, and bullshit statement from him about how Coach Tomlin has earned the right to lead this team for as longs as he chooses.

Oh well. At least the ridiculous play-calling and locker room drama will help to pass the time until Tomlin decides to leave on his own and we can start focusing on having a competitive team again.
 
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