Tomlinson was a RB. I already listed Gates and Jackson so I am not sure why you are repeating them. McCardell played one over the hill year with Rivers at 36 with 437 yards so I don’t understand why you would list him. I guess you couldn’t find anyone but you decided to reply anyways to help prove me right.
He won't, that Rudy thread shows you this guy will keep on with his nonsense to the level of the Energizer Bunny. It will go on and on and on.
it's not that people "can't handle it", it's that they consider it to be nonsense, which it is.
Actually it is "can't see the forest for the trees", is the expression you were trying to hunt for.
61% Picked Rivers. But I am sure they were all Chargers fans.
What I am saying is it isn't as cut and dry as it would be on this board. I expect the majority to pick Ben. Hell, I would pick Ben. But I recognize my own homerism. I am going to pick my guy. But you can't see the forest from the tree. I can step back and look at the argument for Rivers and there is a solid argument. He had less talented offensive weapons, less talented offensive lines, and less talented defenses. Stat line is pretty similar. Ben had 64.4% 64,088 yards 7.6 y/a 418/211 to Rivers 64.9% 63,440 7.8 y/a 421/209. Considering Rivers played 5 less games I would give Rivers a slight nod on stats but not a major difference. So at the end of the day I would say the playoff stats and record would trump Rivers.
How do you know no other QB could do it?
There weren't many votes in that poll. Also, a lot of football fans hate Roethlisberger the person and would take any other QB over him in a poll. For instance, I'd vote against Aaron Rodgers in a poll even if I thought he was better than another QB just because I don't like the guy.
61% Picked Rivers. But I am sure they were all Chargers fans.
What I am saying is it isn't as cut and dry as it would be on this board. I expect the majority to pick Ben. Hell, I would pick Ben. But I recognize my own homerism. I am going to pick my guy. But you can't see the forest from the tree. I can step back and look at the argument for Rivers and there is a solid argument. He had less talented offensive weapons, less talented offensive lines, and less talented defenses. Stat line is pretty similar. Ben had 64.4% 64,088 yards 7.6 y/a 418/211 to Rivers 64.9% 63,440 7.8 y/a 421/209. Considering Rivers played 5 less games I would give Rivers a slight nod on stats but not a major difference. So at the end of the day I would say the playoff stats and record would trump Rivers.
I’m a statics guy so a sample size like that has a margin of error of probably 5%.
Based on watching games and listening to NFL players say Ben was the hardest QB to bring down. Josh Allen may be the closest currently
Oh **** you obviously aren't seeing that singular tree from the forrest.
But how do you know? You are comparing Ben who in the beginning of his career held the ball longer than any QB to Rivers who always had a low snap to throw time.
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