Mueller just dumped on Trump , clear as mud

[oneforthebus]

I hope they do impeach. Run on Impeachment, Higher Taxes and Gun Control. Solid winning strategery.

Don't forget open borders.

 

[Tibs]

Trump's hasty statement (tweet) is something to behold:

“There was insufficient evidence and therefore, in our Country, a person is innocent. The case is closed! Thank you.”

He didn't write that 1. he's glad he was cleared of any wrongdoing, or 2. reiterate that there was no wrongdoing, or 3. thank Mueller/DOJ for clearing his good name and for keeping America safe, or 4. denounce the Russians' brazen & explicit attack against our country, or 5. promise he will fight tooth & nail no such attacks will take place in the future.

No, none of that. He chose the following, very specific words: 'there was insufficient evidence....'

He's a ******* open book if there ever was one.

 

[Spike]

Looks like Nancy isn't going to do much for now, she needs the youngsters to hold her feet to the fire

Impeach!

 

[Tibs]

So fun watching the libtards lose their ****..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congress, Mueller is looking at you. <a href="https://twitter.com/SenateGOP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SenateGOP</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HouseGOP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HouseGOP</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MuellerReport?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MuellerReport</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MuellerSpeaks?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MuellerSpeaks</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MuellerStatement?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MuellerStatement</a> <a href="https://t.co/Hafzq4znLs">pic.twitter.com/Hafzq4znLs</a></p>— Republicans for the Rule of Law (@ForTheRuleOfLaw) <a href="https://twitter.com/ForTheRuleOfLaw/status/1133786874525491200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[SCSteeler4life]

Trump will be proven beyond reasonable doubt that he won the election. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Please try to impeach it is impossible without the senate. This will guarantee a second term.

 

[pittsburghbrooklyn]

Trump will be proven beyond reasonable doubt that he won the election. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Please try to impeach it is impossible without the senate. This will guarantee a second term.

You are very sick please get help

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[IndySteel]

Ha ha ha! Now they really are flaming libtards. Some loser just set himself on fire by the White House.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7083457/Man-sets-fire-seen-engulfed-flames-near-White-House.html

[video]https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2019/05/29/470668556197608091/636x382_MP4_470668556197608091.mp4[/video]

 

[Stewey]

President Trump just tweeted "Nothing changes from the Mueller Report. Insufficient evidence therefore, in our country, a person is innocent. Case is closed!*


Lolololol

He committed no crime and he's exactly right, but there are times when he should just shut up. What a stupid choice of words. Made himself look guilty.

There was apparently insufficient evidence to convict OJ Simpson too.

 

[oneforthebus]

He committed no crime and he's exactly right, but there are times when he should just shut up. What a stupid choice of words. Made himself look guilty.

There was apparently insufficient evidence to convict OJ Simpson too.

Yup, if saying stupid things was a crime he'd have been impeached a long time ago.

 

[Steelworth]

Yup, if saying stupid things was a crime he'd have been impeached a long time ago.

Hell, he'd be on Death Row.

 

[Sarge]

Ha ha ha! Now they really are flaming libtards. Some loser just set himself on fire by the White House.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7083457/Man-sets-fire-seen-engulfed-flames-near-White-House.html

[video]https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2019/05/29/470668556197608091/636x382_MP4_470668556197608091.mp4[/video]

Article said there were reports he was wearing a protective suit. I wonder if that is true. Nah, we don't have a mental health crisis in this country.

 

[Steelr4evr]

I find it all hilarious and the commiecrats absolutely pathetic. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than seeing that party dissolved in my lifetime.

**** starts with term limits.

 

[Tibs]

As we sit back and ponder what comes next, this here is an excellent summary of what the Mueller investigation actually discovered, in stark contrast with the abridged, misleading Barr/Trump summary.

What the Mueller Report Actually Said
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/mueller/590467/

The special counsel pointed back to the words of his report. Here are its key findings.

Robert Mueller has advised Americans to go back and actually read his report if we want to understand what happened in 2016. “We chose those words carefully, and the work speaks for itself,” he said on Wednesday morning, speaking publicly for the first time since his appointment.

But the words of the report are damning.

“The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion,” Mueller wrote. This help “favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.”

The Trump campaign “expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts,” and it “welcomed” this help.

There is insufficient evidence to accuse the Trump campaign of criminal conspiracy with its Russian benefactors. However, “the social media campaign and the GRU hacking operations coincided with a series of contacts between Trump Campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government.”

These contacts were covered up by a series of lies, both to the special counsel and to Congress. Lying by the Trump campaign successfully obscured much of what happened in 2016. The special counsel in some cases “was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.” In particular, the investigation never did determine what happened to proprietary Trump-campaign polling data shared with the Russians.

Within hours of the appointment of a special counsel to investigate 2016 events, Trump began defaming him. Trump had already fired the FBI director who investigated these events. His first order to fire the special counsel appointed in the director’s place was issued on June 17, 2017, a month after Mueller’s appointment. That order would be followed by many more. Trump directed his staff to lie about these orders.

Over and above his efforts to fire the special counsel, “the President engaged in a second phase of conduct, involving public attacks on the investigation, non-public efforts to control it, and efforts in both public and private to encourage witnesses not to cooperate with the investigation.”

The subversion of the investigation was brazen. “Many of the President’s acts directed at witnesses, including discouragement of cooperation with the government and suggestions of possible future pardons, occurred in public view.”

Obstruction of justice, though, need not be clandestine to count as a crime. What matters is intent—and that must be judged by Congress, not a special counsel subordinate to the Department of Justice and bound by its rule that a president cannot be indicted.

The full report is rich with details. But that’s the essence. A foreign power interfered in the U.S. election to help the Trump campaign. The Trump campaign welcomed the help and repeatedly lied about it. The lying successfully obscured some questions the investigation sought to answer; in the end, it found insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy. President Trump, in public and in private, worked to stop the investigation.

Those are the facts. What are the remedies? Mueller underscored at his press statement: He did not exonerate the president. Under the Department of Justice rules he was subject to, he lacked the power to act.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration refuses to take steps to secure the next presidential election against the interference that swayed the last. The question of why Russia so strongly wished to help Trump remains as mysterious as ever. In particular, if you wish to understand the breadth and depth of Trump’s Russian business connections before he declared for president in 2015, Mueller’s report will not help you.

Mueller says he can do no more. The rest, Congress, is up to you.

 

[SCSteeler4life]

As we sit back and ponder what comes next, this here is an excellent summary of what the Mueller investigation actually discovered, in stark contrast with the abridged, misleading Barr/Trump summary.

What the Mueller Report Actually Said
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/mueller/590467/

The special counsel pointed back to the words of his report. Here are its key findings.

No one in there right mind is pondering ****.

We know what comes next, a 2nd term. America is tired of the lefts constant bullshit.

 

[oneforthebus]

the social media campaign and the GRU hacking operations coincided with a series of contacts between Trump Campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government.

And so what if these two things "coincided"? There is no evidence that any of these contacts with "people with ties" (and many of these ties were tangential at best) had anything whatsoever to do with the social media campaigns or hacking. It's totally irresponsible for a PROSECUTOR to write this sentence which attempts to imply a connection between things that are completely unrelated. A defense attorney would tear that statement to shreds.

 

[IndySteel]

LMAO!! They are so unhinged! And lying ***** Mueller doesn't want to testify in congress because he would have to face questions from republicans about the witch hunt. It's ok, his investigation (biased with 19 angry democrats) and it's origins are being investigated. By a prosecutor by the way. Everything will be transparent and the American people will see it all for the hoax that it is.

 

[Steelworth]

Article said there were reports he was wearing a protective suit. I wonder if that is true. Nah, we don't have a mental health crisis in this country.

Nah. Just some people doing stuff.

 

[Tibs]

No one in there right mind is pondering ****. We know what comes next, a 2nd term. America is tired of the lefts constant bullshit.

Excellent, good luck with that. You can breathe a sigh of relief, lean back, throw your feet on the table and enjoy smooth sailing from here on. Trump is free as a whistle and a shoo-in for re-election. Guess we won't be seeing you in these threads much longer, poisoning the well, since there's nothing left to discuss. Good on you.

 

[hamster]

Mueller looked like **** today. His performance was shameful. It is not a prosecutors job to recommend impeachment.....it is to either find something prosecutable, or you move on. The Mueller report was a disgraceful legal document, and this has set a dangerous precedent.


Here is what Alan Dershowitz has to say......


https://thehill.com/opinion/judicia...hame-on-robert-mueller-for-exceeding-his-role


The statement by special counsel Robert Mueller in a Wednesday press conference that “if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said that” is worse than the statement made by then FBI Director James Comey regarding Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential campaign. Comey declared in a July 2016 press conference that “although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive highly classified information.”


Comey was universally criticized for going beyond his responsibility to state whether there was sufficient evidence to indict Clinton. Mueller, however, did even more. He went beyond the conclusion of his report and gave a political gift to Democrats in Congress who are seeking to institute impeachment proceedings against President Trump. By implying that President Trump might have committed obstruction of justice, Mueller effectively invited Democrats to institute impeachment proceedings. Obstruction of justice is a “high crime and misdemeanor” which, under the Constitution, authorizes impeachment and removal of the president.


Until today, I have defended Mueller against the accusations that he is a partisan. I did not believe that he personally favored either the Democrats or the Republicans, or had a point of view on whether President Trump should be impeached. But I have now changed my mind. By putting his thumb, indeed his elbow, on the scale of justice in favor of impeachment based on obstruction of justice, Mueller has revealed his partisan bias. He also has distorted the critical role of a prosecutor in our justice system.

 

[Tibs]

 

[Steelworth]

The statement by special counsel Robert Mueller in a Wednesday press conference that “if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said that” is worse than the statement made by then FBI Director James Comey regarding Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential campaign. Comey declared in a July 2016 press conference that “although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive highly classified information.”


Comey was universally criticized for going beyond his responsibility to state whether there was sufficient evidence to indict Clinton. Mueller, however, did even more. He went beyond the conclusion of his report and gave a political gift to Democrats in Congress who are seeking to institute impeachment proceedings against President Trump. By implying that President Trump might have committed obstruction of justice, Mueller effectively invited Democrats to institute impeachment proceedings. Obstruction of justice is a “high crime and misdemeanor” which, under the Constitution, authorizes impeachment and removal of the president.


Until today, I have defended Mueller against the accusations that he is a partisan. I did not believe that he personally favored either the Democrats or the Republicans, or had a point of view on whether President Trump should be impeached. But I have now changed my mind. By putting his thumb, indeed his elbow, on the scale of justice in favor of impeachment based on obstruction of justice, Mueller has revealed his partisan bias. He also has distorted the critical role of a prosecutor in our justice system.

This will be conveniently glossed over.

 

[oneforthebus]

As hamster's post just pointed out, it wasn't Mueller's job to decide whether he was confident that the president committed a crime. That's for a jury or Congress to decide, after a thorough trial or impeachment which includes the right to a vigorous defense. As a prosecutor you don't say he's not exonerated when he hasn't even had a chance to present a defense. Exonerating him is NOT YOUR JOB. Entirely inappropriate. Therefore, the second part of your cartoon is completely accurate.

 

[IndySteel]

This guy gets it...

I’m sorry to be a broken record on this, but this line from Robert Mueller infuriates me:

“If we had had confidence that the president had clearly not committed a crime we would have said so.” Mueller

— David M. Drucker (@DavidMDrucker) May 29, 2019

That’s not how it works in America. Investigators are supposed to look for evidence that a crime was committed, and, if they don’t find enough to contend that a crime was a committed, they are supposed to say “We didn’t find enough to contend that a crime was committed.” They are not supposed to look for evidence that a crime was not committed and then say, “We couldn’t find evidence of innocence.”

I understand that Mueller was in an odd position. I understand, too, that this wasn’t a criminal trial. But I don’t think those norms are rendered any less important by those facts. By asking the executive to investigate itself, it was guaranteed — yes, guaranteed — that we’d have a fight over “obstruction of justice.” For the architect of that investigation to keep saying “We aren’t exonerating our target” is extraordinary. Innocence is the default position in this country. If a person doesn’t have enough evidence that someone committed a crime to contend that a crime was committed, he is obliged to presume his innocence. “Not exonerated” is not a standard in our system, and it shouldn’t be one in our culture, either.

 

[Tibs]

What's so confusing about the term 'not exonerated' Indy? It's simply DOJ legalize meaning Mueller found plenty of evidence of wrongdoing, but - per the Constitution - could not bring charges against a sitting US president. His investigation, the Mueller report itself and the underlying evidence are now exhibit A for Congressional impeachment hearings where the case should be decided, per the laws of the land.

The real issue is what Barr did, inserting himself - in place of Congress - and making an ill-conceived call to claim there was no basis for obstruction of justice, and otherwise misleading the American people on what the report actually contained. That was simply not his call to make, based on Constitutional law. It was Barr, not Mueller, who acted inapproriately, and should be himself impeached for doing so. He should've known better, that the short term 'win' for Trump would come crashing back down like a ton of bricks once the facts were layed out. Idiots attract idiots, like magnets clumped together, it seems.

 

[Spike]

Booker, Harris, Liz, Pete, Bernie and Beto have called for impeachment to begin

But Nancy??? Ummmmm, not really



Pelosi: "Many want to impeach Trump, but we need to make a compelling case" "Nothing is off the table" but stressed the need for an "ironclad case."


The pressure on her to impeach is skyrocketing, she cant hold out much longer