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How 2000 yard seasons did he have?
"Najee Harris ain't it". NAJEE 3.0 It's time to go, yo....
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Barkley....In 6 seasons in NY he had three 1000 yards seasons. 
Well there's only been how many 2,000 yard seasons? Point is he played on a bad team behind a horrible line in NYC and averaged 4.3 ypc and had a ton of long runs. Derrick Henry rushed for 2000 in 2020 for Tenn, can anyone name one of their Olinemen without looking, with Tannehill at QB. Frank Gore from 2005 to 2010 for the 49ers, averaged over 4.5 ypc, those teams never had a winning season over that span and he had to many runs to count that went for 40+.How 2000 yard seasons did he have?
Najee isn't a bad player, I just don't think he's a feature RB.
And I'll say it again, not one single GM would take Harris over Barkley after Barkley's final year with the Giants. That's why the Eagles gave him a 3 year contract worth almost 40 million, and Najee only received a 1 year prove it deal with the Chargers.Barkley....In 6 seasons in NY he had three 1000 yards seasons.
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With way fewer touches than Najee got. It's not hard to understand.Barkley....In 6 seasons in NY he had three 1000 yards seasons.
And it actually hurts the common refrain that Najee is actually really good but the OL sucked. Because (1) if the OL sucked in NY, then Barkley was still significantly better when he was healthy (note: Najee's super power is durability, which is a great superpower to have in the NFL) and (2) if Najee needs a great OL to be above average, why keep him? RBs are the easiest and cheapest position to replace. If we think he'll only give above average results with an above average OL, then he's just a replacement level RB (which explains why he lost so many carries to a UDFA in Warren...who is good, but shows that it's an easy position to replace).
Back to Barkley. When he got an explosion of touches this season, he got an explosion of yards. Because he can make huge plays. And when you give a guy like that more work, he gets more of those huge carries that inflate the stats.
Give Barkley 345 carries and you get 2,000 yards. 5.8 yards per carry. He gets the high YPC not because he gets that much every carry. A high YPC is a proxy for "this guy gets huge gains". His long this year was 72. This year along Barkley had 9x 40+ yard runs. 8x 50 yard runs. Najee's career long is 37 (again...not as long as Bettis' longest run in his final year).
Najee is the opposite becuase he's never had a 40 yard run in ~1100 carries. When we gave Najee 307 carries, we got 1200 yards (3.9/carry). He gives you essentially the same per carry average every...single...year because he doesn't ever get those monster runs that drive YPC up. It's his career best yardage total. Because we started to manage his load after that. And because he doesn't get big runs, he can only increase his yardage total with big volume (I don't think he'll get 300+ carries with the Chargers, but we'll see).
We were also able to throttle down his carries because Warren is a better 3rd down back (even though Najee is also a good 3rd down back...because he's at least good at everything).
I don't hate Najee. I think he can be a valuable piece. I also think he's a good person (although it is weird that he lost the captaincy in year 2, which is voted on by the players).
But he's a replacement level RB for everything but durability and ball security (both are important things). But he's not the kind of RB that deserves a 5th year option (so far we've only done that with 1st team APs, but don't have any probowlers...who I think we would also option). Just like he doesn't deserve a big 2nd contract...which is what the market told him too.
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Looking only at totals is misleading.How 2000 yard seasons did he have?
The NFL is looking for big plays from RBs in the present.
Najee would have been basically the prefect RB in the 90s. But the game has changed.
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Harris is the definition of a feature back. Takes the carries when asked. Never fumbles. Never misses a game. Has no issue catching the ball out of the backfield. Model person on and off the field. Positive locker room presence.
So if he broke a few 60 yards runs.......that would make him a feature RB? Lol
You should be using a few bad RBs to make your point. The fact you are naming some very good RBs says it all actually. No?
I don't know what is OK and what is not, so here, without a link, is what Najee said...
"It was just a team where we lost Ben [Roethlisberger], we lost the O-line, we just didn't know anything on offense really, we didn't have any identity," Harris said during an interview with local Los Angeles TV station KCAL. "We had a young guy coming in at QB. I was young. The team was young. I really didn't have nobody to almost learn from on the offensive side. I think the veteran guy on that team was a two-, three-year vet. And he's still learning himself."
Isn't a coach of 18 years supposed to handle that? If not, why is he even there? Najee acts like he was simply lost with no leadership in Pgh.
"It was just a team where we lost Ben [Roethlisberger], we lost the O-line, we just didn't know anything on offense really, we didn't have any identity," Harris said during an interview with local Los Angeles TV station KCAL. "We had a young guy coming in at QB. I was young. The team was young. I really didn't have nobody to almost learn from on the offensive side. I think the veteran guy on that team was a two-, three-year vet. And he's still learning himself."
Isn't a coach of 18 years supposed to handle that? If not, why is he even there? Najee acts like he was simply lost with no leadership in Pgh.
No, I'm pointing out that there are alot of RB's that have done really well on bad teams and bad Olines. Yes, if he was able to break off long runs like Henry etc. he'd be a much better feature back, not sure what there isn't to under stand there.
You want some bad running backs? Walter Abercrombie, Ernest Jackson, Frankie Pollard all played on those bad 80's teams and had a better ypc and long run than Najee did.
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Yes. You pointed out good players having long runs on bad teams. Ok.
Are ypu saying Abercrombie Pollard are/were better than what Harris is?
Firstly, welcome to the site.
Next, you'll come to learn that speculation, 'round here, is gonna get you ribbed a lot.
Finally, who cares if what Najee does with the Chargers anymore? I pimped him thru college and while he was here, but he's no longer a Steeler so...
And somehow, I feel that this thread will go for another 150 pages...
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Thanks. Happy to be here.
Was on the trib site for a long time until it shut down. Then planet steelers for over a decade... But it's almost unusable now.
Isn't saying that Najee would have been much better with a good OL also speculation?
Especially since he's essentially been exactly the same every year here despite the changes up front?
I think he is what he's shown himself to be after almost 1100 carries. That's a heck of a lot of work at RB.
Now we are comparing Harris to Bettis? LOL
Different era, different game.
Bettis actually ran with power didnt need a runway to get up to speed.
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that is your opinion.
If you took the time for some critical thinking you would realize you just proved my point.
Baltimore run game production pre Derrick Henry was worse than Pittsburgh.
2023 Gus 810 yds
2022 Dobbins 520 yds
2021 Freeman 576 yds
2020 Dobbins 805 yds
2019 Ingram 1018 yds
2018 Edwards 718 yards
Explain that?
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Najee is going to improve because he's a decent player, but also because he'll be the productive of a better system and better players around him. He isn't a guy who can consistently create on his own. This same Steelers offense couldn't throw the ball even though there were receivers open until Mason Rudolph came in and completely opened up the offense and he's nothing more than a backup/spot starter. The offense was/is bad, but not as bad enough to give guys like Pickett/Harris the excuses they get for not performing up to expectations.
I'd say the rest of the NFL doesn't expect much from Harris either, at least not in terms of being a top running back, given the contract he signed this offseason.
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All these years and you're just now sharing you're a pimp. WTF. How much do you make off Supe and Coolie?? I would have asked about Lunar too but we all know he gives it away for free.
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Before was married, I would pimp myself out to any good looking woman. Usually at little to no cost
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OK
2023- gus injured
2022 dobbins injured
2021- Freeman injured(had to look that one up
2020- dobbins injured.
2019- good year but injured
2018- got tired of looking it up. But I will just say splitting carries cause he wasn't the #1 back
Harris - never injured.
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this Bicccchhhhhh is still dissing us blaming everyone but him self for his below average 3.9 ypg performance...what a douche
NAJEE WAS THE RUNNER....get it..? Now I hope you average 1.3 you lil wussy....NAJEE WAS NEVER EVER ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS BELOW AVERAGE PERFORMANCE...EVER
GO JOIN A HARBAUGH LOL..
MAYBE HE DISSES YOUR STEELERS GUYS....NOT MINE....F OFF NAJEE...
Just go away slow poke
NAJEE WAS THE RUNNER....get it..? Now I hope you average 1.3 you lil wussy....NAJEE WAS NEVER EVER ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS BELOW AVERAGE PERFORMANCE...EVER
GO JOIN A HARBAUGH LOL..
MAYBE HE DISSES YOUR STEELERS GUYS....NOT MINE....F OFF NAJEE...
Just go away slow poke
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Frank Pollard is one of the most underrated Steelers of all time. Noll knew how to find OL and get the most out of them. Guys like Ilkin, Webster, Larry Brown, Wolfley, Hasselrig, Terry Long, Tyrone McGriff, etc.
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that is either funny or sad. not sure which