Nationwide dog and pony **** show.

[SteelChip]

OK, WHAT?

You suppprt reasonable gun control and acknowledge it’s not the same as banning all guns?

Nope I believe that the knuckleheads that think reasonable gun control includes banning all guns are a special kind of stupid. I don't have a problem with the guns, it's some of the people holding them that need banned.....from holding them.

 

[Sarge]

HR 5087 seeks to ban many gun types. To me, that's not reasonable gun control. You can call me stupid all you want, but it doesn't make me blind.

 

[Supersteeler]

Aside from supporting the second amendment, this is just another reason why I can't get behind banning guns. There is a problem in America, and it isn't guns. Kids and some people in general are not well. Read this. Ridiculous.

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/7-prince...y-students-cut-wrists-at-school-officials-say

Cutting among middle school students is so commonplace now that we don't even do anything except call the parents and encourage them to talk to their kid about it. It's become a fad and the purpose of it is so kids can say, "See look how difficult my life is". Now if they cut themselves at school and are bleeding everywhere that is different and requires a higher level of intervention. 9 out of 10 times they do it at home the night before and then tell all their friends as soon as they get to school. Of course then it gets back to the office and I have to talk to them and call home. It's become an ordinary part of my day. I bet I have 3 a week.

 

[Tibs]

Not that anyone in their right mind would want to destroy their beloved AR-15, but here is important info for anyone pondering such a move. Three easy steps, that's all.

How to Destroy an AR-15
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-to-destroy-an-ar-15-w519329

Dick’s Sporting Goods has infuriated the NRA by opting to destroy its remaining stock of assault-style rifles and accessories. Dick’s removed the firearms from the shelves of its 35 Field & Stream stores in February, after 17 people were killed and 17 more wounded at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

The company confirmed to Rolling Stone its plans to fully destroy the guns, first reported by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette last week, rather than return them to the manufacturers or offload them to another distributor.

"We are in the process of destroying all firearms and accessories that are no longer for sale as a result of our February 28th policy change," a company spokesperson said in a statement. "We are destroying the firearms in accordance with federal guidelines and regulations."

The federal guidelines that outline the destruction of an assault-style or "modern sporting" rifle like the AR-15, are derived from two laws: the National Firearms Act of 1934, drafted in response to prohibition-era mafia violence, and the Gun Control Act of 1968, prompted by the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

To meet the requirements under the NFA and GCA, the firearm frame or receiver "must be destroyed by completely shredding, melting, or crushing." Alternatively, the ATF also offers the option of "destroying firearms through torch cuts."

A spokesman for the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms says that while the agency provides guidelines on destroying guns, Dick’s will have to complete the destruction itself.

"It’s going to be totally up to the company – however they want to do it," Special Agent Joshua Jackson tells Rolling Stone. “We’re not part of that process; we don’t collect the destroyed items.”

What the ATF does do is provide Dick’s – and anyone else interested in destroying an AR-15, machine gun or other weapon – step-by-step instructions on the most effective method to get the job done.

If you have one of these guns at home and want to destroy it, yourself, here's how:

First, you’ll need a blowtorch. According to the bureau’s official guidelines, "cutting by means of a band saw or cut-off wheel does not ensure destruction."

Next, you’ll need to disassemble the rifle, separating the firearm frame or receiver from the rest of the gun. In order to be rendered fully inoperable, the receiver – the part of the gun that holds the hammer, bolt or breechblock and firing mechanism in place – needs to be completely severed in three specific places.

Where you make the cuts depends on which model of gun you’re torching – ATF provides diagrams for a Browning M1919 type firearm, a Heckler & Koch G3 type firearm and Sten type firearm – and to destroy an AR-15, the ATF recommends following its guidelines for the FN/FAL rifle.

The first cut will pass through the threaded portion of the receiver ring and magazine well opening at the bottom of the frame. Next, you'll sever the hinge pin, ejector block and bolt guide rails. Finally, you'll need to burn through the body locking lug and bolt guide rails. Be careful to ensure that each cut fully severs the frame.

Per ATF guidelines, "All cutting must be done with a cutting torch having a tip of sufficient size to displace at least ¼ inch of material at each location."

That’s it! Three cuts with a blow torch and you’re done.

 

[Stryker]

I'm a stark constitutionalist. I'm not for gun control of any kind. I am for gun safety, gun education, i.e. passing a safety course to care and handle your firearm.

I'm also for preventing citizens that are mentally unwell from purchasing firearms. Something we had for a short time until Trump vetoed it.

I'm also for litigation against gun owners who don't properly lock and store their firearms. A gun is your responsibility if you want to own one, don't have it locked and your kid takes it and kills someone, you should be held accountable.

 

[SteelChip]

Dick’s Sporting Goods has infuriated the NRA by opting to destroy its remaining stock of assault-style rifles and accessories. Dick’s removed the firearms from the shelves of its 35 Field & Stream stores in February, after 17 people were killed and 17 more wounded at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

 

[Sarge]

Tibs, that illustration in your post is not an AR-15. I thought maybe it was a M249 or perhaps a M240, but it is neither of those. Hell, I'm not even sure it is American. See, this is a problem a lot of Americans have with the gun control movement. Some folks in that movement want to ban weapons or limit magazines, but have no idea what the **** they are talking about. Hell, I have seen videos from news stations demonstrating the destructive power of an AR-15, but the weapon in the video is a shotgun. Then there is General "Full Semi-Automatic."

More people would listen if they weren't being lectured to by people who have no clue about the topic they are lecturing.

 

[Stryker]

Steel Chip, I remember teachers being able to hit us with wooden paddles and cracking knuckles. Taking the ability to smack a bad kid away, increased the amount of bad kids. When you have the fear of pain from acting up, you behave in class.

How many of you had a class where the wooden paddle was leaning up against the chalkboard in plain sight?

 

[ark steel]

I'm a stark constitutionalist. I'm not for gun control of any kind. I am for gun safety, gun education, i.e. passing a safety course to care and handle your firearm.

I'm also for preventing citizens that are mentally unwell from purchasing firearms. Something we had for a short time until Trump vetoed it.

I'm also for litigation against gun owners who don't properly lock and store their firearms. A gun is your responsibility if you want to own one, don't have it locked and your kid takes it and kills someone, you should be held accountable.

The bold is not true, if i recall correctly. Unless I am thinking of something different than you are. The Big O policy that Trump rolled back was NOT mentally unwell, it had to do with being well enough to handle your financials, which may or may not mean you are mentally unstable. It violated the 4th amendment by taking away your rights without due process, at the very least. It, probably, also violated some HIPPA privacy issues with the SS sharing your health information. In any event it was one thing the NRA and the ACLU agreed was unconstitutional.

 

[Smash]

Told a 4th grade teacher friend of mine who is quite liberal of the 10 Commandments there for the reading every day in elementary school. The conversation was about the horrible behavior of her students AND their parents getting worse and worse as the years go by. She said the idea of such was way out of touch with the real world. Told her that was the real world, way back when teachers were in charge of the students, and we didn't shoot each other. Blank stare.

Steel Chip, I remember teachers being able to hit us with wooden paddles and cracking knuckles

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Paddles sat proudly in the window of the asst. principal's office Cope, not in any of the classrooms I remember.

 

[Stewey]

Told a 4th grade teacher friend of mine who is quite liberal of the 10 Commandments there for the reading every day in elementary school. The conversation was about the horrible behavior of her students AND their parents getting worse and worse as the years go by. She said the idea of such was way out of touch with the real world. Told her that was the real world, way back when teachers were in charge of the students, and we didn't shoot each other. Blank stare.

Paddles sat proudly in the window of the asst. principal's office Cope, not in any of the classrooms I remember.

They were in both places.

I remember teachers showing off their homemade paddle designs to each other.

One such teacher, Mr. Brown, had a beautifully shellacked paddle with one inch holes drilled throughout for less air resistance.

Sadists they were.

 

[Tibs]

Tibs, that illustration in your post is not an AR-15. I thought maybe it was a M249 or perhaps a M240, but it is neither of those. Hell, I'm not even sure it is American. See, this is a problem...

Yup, says so right in the article:

Where you make the cuts depends on which model of gun you’re torching – ATF provides diagrams for a Browning M1919 type firearm, a Heckler & Koch G3 type firearm and Sten type firearm – and to destroy an AR-15, the ATF recommends following its guidelines for the FN/FAL rifle.

 

[Sarge]

Yup, says so right in the article:

Thanks. I didn't read the article. I have no desire to destroy my AR-16, so it would be pointless. I just felt for realism, they should probably use the weapon they are referring to.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Says so right in the article....good lord.

A monkey could identify these aren't the same weapons.

 

[oneforthebus]

Cutting among middle school students is so commonplace now that we don't even do anything except call the parents and encourage them to talk to their kid about it. It's become a fad and the purpose of it is so kids can say, "See look how difficult my life is". Now if they cut themselves at school and are bleeding everywhere that is different and requires a higher level of intervention. 9 out of 10 times they do it at home the night before and then tell all their friends as soon as they get to school. Of course then it gets back to the office and I have to talk to them and call home. It's become an ordinary part of my day. I bet I have 3 a week.

Totally true. When my daughters were in middle school it was a fad...there are girls who instagrammed their cuts, made designs out of them, it was all goth and angsty and artsy or something. Once my daughter who was going through kind of a tumultuous time, had some faint scratches on her arm and my son told me he had seen her running the point of a scissors on her arm....I went right up to her room, took every pair of scissors, razors etc. away and told her I will be checking her arms daily and if I EVER see that **** again her room will be stripped of everything, including the door.

Never happened again.

 

[Vader]

Thanks. I didn't read the article. I have no desire to destroy my AR-16, so it would be pointless. I just felt for realism, they should probably use the weapon they are referring to.

They can destroy the AR-15 just like they do the FAL. Which is made in Belgium. But in reality you can destroy an fire arm with a blow torch without any assistance. It's ridiculous anyway because they are being made all the time. You want to increase illegal gun sales across the Mexican border? Just outlaw semi-autos and see what happens.

 

[DBS1970]

If you are dumb enough to want to virtue signal by destroying your own property by all means go ahead. Don't try to deprive other people of their rights and destroy their property.

 

[Steeltime]

How to destroy a liberal:

 

[SteelChip]

This one's for Blitz....

 

[Yinzerlyn]

Totally true. When my daughters were in middle school it was a fad...there are girls who instagrammed their cuts, made designs out of them, it was all goth and angsty and artsy or something. Once my daughter who was going through kind of a tumultuous time, had some faint scratches on her arm and my son told me he had seen her running the point of a scissors on her arm....I went right up to her room, took every pair of scissors, razors etc. away and told her I will be checking her arms daily and if I EVER see that **** again her room will be stripped of everything, including the door.

Never happened again.

How DARE you step up and be a parent? How DARE you take away her "right" to self mutilate and self express?

Seriously, in case the sarcasm was missed- THANK YOU!!!!!!! We need more parenting and less friendship between parents and their kids.

 

[Tibs]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A white man shooting and killing people with an assault rifle is basically the "dog bites man" of modern American news headlines. <a href="https://t.co/N5dqBybLcU">pic.twitter.com/N5dqBybLcU</a></p>— Travon Free (@Travon) <a href="https://twitter.com/Travon/status/988094770613436416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Tibs]

Good guys without guns.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shoutout to the unarmed man who disarmed the Waffle House shooter. <a href="https://t.co/dYNp5RuTr5">https://t.co/dYNp5RuTr5</a> <a href="https://t.co/pd2M8S6Vo2">pic.twitter.com/pd2M8S6Vo2</a></p>— James H. Miller (@jaymills) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaymills/status/988076630416424961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[SCSteeler4life]

Good guys without guns.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shoutout to the unarmed man who disarmed the Waffle House shooter. <a href="https://t.co/dYNp5RuTr5">https://t.co/dYNp5RuTr5</a> <a href="https://t.co/pd2M8S6Vo2">pic.twitter.com/pd2M8S6Vo2</a></p>— James H. Miller (@jaymills) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaymills/status/988076630416424961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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If he had been armed they still wouldn't be looking for the shooter. He would be dead.

 

[Iron95]

They were in both places.

I remember teachers showing off their homemade paddle designs to each other.

One such teacher, Mr. Brown, had a beautifully shellacked paddle with one inch holes drilled throughout for less air resistance.

Sadists they were.

Getting a paddling was kind of a "right of passage". You are not one of the cool kids until you get your *** beat. I must have been pretty cool.

 

[Iron95]

Good guys without guns.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shoutout to the unarmed man who disarmed the Waffle House shooter. <a href="https://t.co/dYNp5RuTr5">https://t.co/dYNp5RuTr5</a> <a href="https://t.co/pd2M8S6Vo2">pic.twitter.com/pd2M8S6Vo2</a></p>— James H. Miller (@jaymills) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaymills/status/988076630416424961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Do you spend your whole day looking **** up on the internet? You must be one sad, angry person.