Odds That Rudolph Gets Traded?

[topseed]

Rudolph's numbers are decent for just 10 starts. And a bunch of those starts were in tough situations without JuJu or DJ. The guy was a 3rd round pick and so far he's proven to be a decent backup QB. I don't understand why that triggers such hatred that he hasn't developed into a star QB.

Joe Burrow coincidentally started 10 games as a rookie. His record was 2-7-1. 65% completions 2688 yds 13 TD 5 INT and an 89 QB rating. I won't even bother posting Trevor Lawrence's awful stats from last year but Mason's stats are far better. I bet Jag fans aren't frothing at the mouth to cut Lawrence.

Not saying Rudolph is Burrow, just pointing out that 10 games is not enough to judge a QB.

Your comparison of Rudolph to Burrow or Lawrence is really short-sighted. Manning and Bradshaw had terrible starts to their careers, too. But their talent was obvious.

You cited those two, I can cite:

Ryan Leaf (3-7 in his first 10 games), ended his career with a 4-17 mark, or
Tim Couch (2-8), 22-37, or
Akili Smith (2-8), 3-14, or
JaMarcus Russell (2-8), 7-18, or

...dozens of other quarterbacks who started out ****** or mediocre during their first 10 starts, and stayed that way. Guys who were exactly what they showed they were. 10 games was plenty to tell. Rudolph would seemingly fall into this group, rather than yours.

 

[topseed]

I just don't get the sheer hatred for Rudolph. I really thought any intelligent Steelers fan, hell, any intelligent human would say let all three fight it out and let the best man win. I really didn't care who it was. But looking at this camp and preseason Rudolph was clearly the best. While Pickett is clearly ascending. And Trubisky has been a disappointment. It really is that simple. I also don't think it really matters who starts the season at QB as Pickett likely is starting by November. And to be honest looking at this team, why not? We spent a first round pick on him and the team is nowhere near a super bowl contender. I also doubt Rudolph is back even if he has success.

So Rudolph has a 106.2 passer rating in preseason, and he's "clearly the best." Trubisky has a 108.5 passer rating in preseason (along with avoiding several sacks and running for 14 yards), and he's "been a disappointment."

It's amazing how you continue to spew this nonsensical bullshit. But I'm the one with the agenda?

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Your comparison of Rudolph to Burrow or Lawrence is really short-sighted. Manning and Bradshaw had terrible starts to their careers, too. But their talent was obvious.

You cited those two, I can cite:

Ryan Leaf (3-7 in his first 10 games), ended his career with a 4-17 mark, or
Tim Couch (2-8), 22-37, or
Akili Smith (2-8), 3-14, or
JaMarcus Russell (2-8), 7-18, or

...dozens of other quarterbacks who started out ****** or mediocre during their first 10 starts, and stayed that way. Guys who were exactly what they showed they were. 10 games was plenty to tell. Rudolph would seemingly fall into this group, rather than yours.

Where did i say Rudolph was going to be great? I merely said it was too short a sample to write him off as the worst QB who ever lived, as many steeler fans do for some reason. Sounds like you agree with the point i was making, that you can't completely judge a guy on 10 starts.

 

[BLITZ]

Mason has proven to at least be a competent QB. Yet people on here just bash him.
I don't think he should be the starter week 1 but he should definitely be on this team. Unless someone offers a 3rd or 4th. Or a competent offense lineman

 

[madinsomniac]

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/top-nfl-backup-quarterbacks-2022/ (I think this qualifies):



https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/who-are-best-backup-quarterbacks-nfl (Again, maybe this qualifies):

Lasy year he ranked everywhere from 16th to 6th in various articles… I wouldnt waste too much time with wolf… Rudolph once beat him in a game of high stakes uno and he never will forgive him…. His only real argument is that Rudolph sucks because he sucks… thats the man’s opinion and you aren’t changing it with all the facts in the world…

 

[slashsteel]

Last year he ranked everywhere from 16th to 6th in various articles… I wouldn't waste too much time with wolf… Rudolph once beat him in a game of high stakes uno and he never will forgive him…. His only real argument is that Rudolph sucks because he sucks… that's the man’s opinion and you aren’t changing it with all the facts in the world…

Well it has been a rough time for the Wolf since then. Sleepless nights, day-mares, just bad bad times. I am always willing to council him, sofa physiatrist him. Why? Because UNO...

 

[madinsomniac]

So teams that apparently have or at least should have interest right now

6. Cleveland Browns…The media seems to think so, at least…. right now Josh Dobbs looks to be their backup until Watson comes off suspension, and Jacoby Brissett looked bad against the bears in the preseason finale… I don’t believe they will trade for Rudolph to play him, though stranger things have happened, but they definitely could be a part of a three way trade where they get a higher end backup and the team that gives up that backup gets Rudolph

5: The Tennessee Titans… yeah they have Willis, but as a passer he isn’t even remotely ready, yet he is pushing their backup off the roster because he is having a miserable preseason… a buffer between tannehill and willis to adequately deveop the raw QB is advisable.

4. The San Francisco 49rs. They are going to cut Jimmy G… once they do it leaves them just nate sudfield, a sixth year guy who is 25/37 for 188 yards and 1 td in his career, and a seventh round pick on the roster..

 

[Hypocycloids]

So Rudolph has a 106.2 passer rating in preseason, and he's "clearly the best." Trubisky has a 108.5 passer rating in preseason (along with avoiding several sacks and running for 14 yards), and he's "been a disappointment."

It's amazing how you continue to spew this nonsensical bullshit. But I'm the one with the agenda?

https://Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2022/08/2022-training-camp-grades-quarterbacks/

Ford isn't the only one that believes MR was the best in camp.

For some reason I keep getting "invalid link".
Just type in Steelers depot. QB grades

 

[madinsomniac]

3. The Denver Broncos. For a team that just invested big in Russel Wilson, they have nothing behind the guy and the fans are starting to worry… they have been rumored to be on the market looking virtually all preseason

2. The Carolina Panthers. They weren’t thrilled with Darnold as it was, and now he is hurt.. there were rumors they were looking for qb help even before he went down… I mean right now tgeir season depends on Baker mayfield not imploding or getting hurt…

1a The Detroit Lions. The most smoke was from the Lions, who have no QB depth, have injuries and have a starter with a lot of questions. This is the most likely landing spot

1b the less likely but really logical landing spot.. The LARams.
The Rams are really beat up at QB , and have a recent history of trading big to fill holes. They already weren’t happy with the backup depth…

 

[Hypocycloids]

I just don't get the sheer hatred for Rudolph. I really thought any intelligent Steelers fan, hell, any intelligent human would say let all three fight it out and let the best man win. I really didn't care who it was. But looking at this camp and preseason Rudolph was clearly the best. While Pickett is clearly ascending. And Trubisky has been a disappointment. It really is that simple. I also don't think it really matters who starts the season at QB as Pickett likely is starting by November. And to be honest looking at this team, why not? We spent a first round pick on him and the team is nowhere near a super bowl contender. I also doubt Rudolph is back even if he has success.

This guy doesn't get it either.

Mason Rudolph: The Most Hated Man in Pittsburgh

The Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback is possibly the most despised man within the fan base.

www.behindthesteelcurtain.com

It must be because Mason has a punchable face.
Never thought of my fellow Steeler fans of being that backward and retarded. If that's the case, I hope he lights it up wherever he goes.

 

[madinsomniac]

One more team to watch in the qb market is Seattle, who likely will make a play for jimmy G.
Drew lock had a really poor preseason especially in turnovers.. Geno smith isn’t exactly a guy who screams surefire starter either.. so their backup might need upgraded

 

[xjx]

When an NFL team has to resort to Geno Smith as the starting qb.......

Wasn't that guy washed up 4 or 5 years ago? Now he is starting caliber?

 

[madinsomniac]

Steelers’ 4 Most Likely Promising Trade Partners And Returns For Mason Rudolph

The Pittsburgh Steelers have had an extremely controversial training camp when it comes to the quarterback position. Part of the speculation that has been discussed is simply who will start: Mitch Trubisky or Kenny Pickett? The other part has been the only one in the room who has experience in...

www.steelernation.com

He brings up the Cowboys… and makes a great point… I haven’t been lurking on their sites so I hadn’t noticed their interest in a backup qb

So basically almost a third of the league is probably looking for someone like Rudolph, and it just takes one dumb desperate gm to overpay a little. Kahn has played it pretty solid in not acting like we are going to cut him or anything… and if he has asked for a trade it’s been kept very quiet, so they hold all the leverage

 

[BamaSteeler52]

I love how people think Oladokun is an option... If the Steelers trade Mason and Mitch goes down you have an unproven rookie backed up by a nobody...

 

[SteelerFan448]

5: The Tennessee Titans… yeah they have Willis, but as a passer he isn’t even remotely ready, yet he is pushing their backup off the roster because he is having a miserable preseason… a buffer between tannehill and willis to adequately deveop the raw QB is advisable.

If you haven't heard, he's the second coming of Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson because he's thrown a couple of sidearm passes and had a few good scrambles.

 

[madinsomniac]

I love how people think Oladokun is an option... If the Steelers trade Mason and Mitch goes down you have an unproven rookie backed up by a nobody...

Ben says Hi after Charlie batch went down in his rookie season

 

[BLITZ]

Ben says Hi after Charlie batch went down in his rookie season

maddox. and Ben was a #1 pick

 

[BamaSteeler52]

Ben says Hi after Charlie batch went down in his rookie season

... Sorry but Pickett ain't even close to Ben... Plus Ben was going to sit the bench all season if it was not for all those injuries.

 

[Wolf44]

Gerry Dulac: As preseason wears on, Mason Rudolph's value to Steelers is only increasing

With one final drive playing with a bunch of guys who won’t be around next month, Mason Rudolph proved he is not going away without a fight —...

www.post-gazette.com

Sure here is the one article from a Pittsburgh writer.

A Steeler lackey like Dulac, riveting. How about a national writer or a writer from another team. Soon you will be quoting Steelers nut sucker Bob Labriola.

Randolph is a joke around the league and many commentators, ex Steelers and current Steelers have ripped him.

 

[Wolf44]

Teams are just lining up to trade for the guy with limited arm talent. A total lack of pocket presence, no leadership ability and a ton of tape that shows how incompetent he is. I doubt Rudolph could spell UNO.

By the way the retard trying to compare Rudolph to Bradshaw.Bradshaw came to a 1-13 team that has never won a playoff game in NFL history where it was the norm for QBs to sit for years and learn the game in a then QB unfriendly league where defenses dominated. Bradshaw was bad but showed incredible talent and the Steelers won 5 times more games than the previous years.Rudolph has never made an incredible play or shown incredible talent once in 5 years. Ford Fairlane is dumber then the Diceman character. Not a shock.

 

[BLITZ]

Hopefully no other teams pick up on how stupid Mason is. and they stupidity give us a 3rd or 4th for him. if not we should hold on to stupid mason as our 2nd or 3rd.

 

[topseed]

Where did i say Rudolph was going to be great? I merely said it was too short a sample to write him off as the worst QB who ever lived, as many steeler fans do for some reason. Sounds like you agree with the point i was making, that you can't completely judge a guy on 10 starts.

I never indicated that you said Rudolph was going to be great. What I said was, most of the time, after 10 games, we pretty much know what a quarterback is. Of course there are rare exceptions like the #1 overall picks we both mentioned, but the vast majority of the time, the writing is on the wall.

 

[FordFairLane]

Well, if a GM reads this forum they’ll see Rudolph is the worst QB in the history of the NFL and is a garbage human being as well.

 

[slashsteel]

A Steeler lackey like Dulac, riveting. How about a national writer or a writer from another team. Soon you will be quoting Steelers nut sucker Bob Labriola.

Randolph is a joke around the league and many commentators, ex Steelers and current Steelers have ripped him.

You asked for one I gave you one and so did others. So your ***-essment was wrong. You don't get to pick and choose when you ask a general question.

 

[topseed]

https://Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2022/08/2022-training-camp-grades-quarterbacks/

Ford isn't the only one that believes MR was the best in camp.

For some reason I keep getting "invalid link".
Just type in Steelers depot. QB grades

Yes, yes, we know: Mason is a camp warrior. Great. He's been one before.


That article doesn't seem to be very cogently written, however, as the author toots Rudolph's horn, then also says things like:

"Pittsburgh knows (Rudolph) well enough to know he won't (be) the team's long-term starter while Kenny Pickett has progressed enough to be the immediate backup....the team is right to make Rudolph third-string."

Or "Pickett began camp as the #3 but has firmly cemented himself as the #2 on this team."

and "It was always Trubisky's job to lose and he didn't do anything to jeopardize his frontrunner position...he had a fine camp."


So, basically, they all had good camps, and they all had good preseason numbers. No one was overall "clearly the best," and Trubisky certainly has NOT "disappointed," as a certain poster keeps insisting.

Everybody else, including the guy who wrote that glowing article, still knows Rudolph is the #3. Imagine that.