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offseason moves, what would you do?

Litos

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Ok so I wanted to share my two cents on what would I do during the draft and FA process, now that the combine has given us some useful information and that AB is practically gone we can start shaping next year's roster during the offseason:

From the combine I get the feeling that I rather get a CB in the 2nd round than spend our 1.20 in any of the probable options that will be there, Murphy and Baker look like really good CBs but lack that extra athleticism and/or size to make it worth a mid 1# (Greedy Williams will probably be gone already, if not he is in the mix). That leaves us with the possibility of going for ILB/OLB/S, right now I like Bush/Burns/Gardner-Johnson right there for those spots (White and Sweat will be long gone, Allen too)

Back to Free Agency, I'm assuming two things: first we trade AB for a late 1st, second we trade Burnett for a 5th rounder (cap savings= 3,6M). Money available = 19M

1) we should go balls out on a CB because we won't get a day 1 starter from the draft, here are the top available options: McCourty(cheats), Darby(eagles), Jackson(texans), Nelson (Chiefs). I would try hard to sign any of these guys, none of them is an elite corner so it shouldn't cost more than 8 M/Y.

2) get your own free agents back: Hilton (ERFA), Jesse James, Finney(RFA) and Feiler(ERFA). 2nd tier: Foster, Chickillo, Sensabaugh, Rogers, Fort (all these guys should get cheap contracts and have to fight it out to earn a roster spot). Total cap hit 9M

3) A vet WR should be of need given that our current players are JuJu 22, Washington 22 and Switzer 24. A guy with leadership and experience could help these kids and whoever we draft midrounds, how about John Brown who many already like here? Another way to go in FA is trying to sign Golden Tate, who won't be cheap, instead of the starting CB opposite Haden. I prefer the CB

4) if you don't go for the top vet CB or WR you might spend some money in a 3rd safety, one that can play near the LoS and make stuff happen, like this guy some have heard of Tyranne Mathieu? This would mean 3 starting safeties on Defense, coaches better find out how to make this work.

5) Fill the rest of the roster with minimum wage vets and try to complete the roster in the draft.

On to the draft:
- if we got a top CB in FA then Murphy, Willams and Baker are out of my list in the 1st round. I'd look for ILB/OLB/S
- if we got a top S in FA then Gardner-Johnson is off
- if we got a top WR in FA then no WRs until the 4th round.

ILBs in order of liking: White, Bush, in round 1; Wilson, Pratt in round 2. It is a must to secure a top 4 ILB in this draft, even if it means moving up in the 2nd round, ABs pick and our 3rd rounder should help with that.
CBs in order of liking: Williams, Murphy, in round 1; Baker, Oruwariye, Mullen, Ya-Sin. I think 2nd round is the sweet spot for picking CB this draft.
S: CGJ in round 1, Hooker, Savage, Rapp, Adderley in round 3
WR: there's a lot to like in this class, I´d use that late 1st / early 2nd from AB on securing a top WR like Butler, Harry, Samuels
OLB: this is a tough one, with so many needs only if huge value is there at 1st or 2nd round I'd pass up on OLB, I see it at the same need level as Safety. Names I like are of course Allen(who won't be at 1.20), then Banogu, Burns, Hollins, Ximines. Best value available at round 3

So 5 needs in the draft to be drafetd early. I think Safety gets the axe in a numbers game. Of course, if we do go for a big FA then we shouldn´t be between a rock and a hard place. Hopefully AB does bring a late 1st to help us out to move up or down and get best value for the different positions of need.

So, what would you do if you were the Front Office? Salute the Nation
 
Sounds pretty good Litos BUT I think you get a mid to high 1st rounder for big titties. Denver / jets / Oakland / tampa / don't rule SF #2 overall out either. Once Mr. Big titties is confirmed it's hard for the rest to follow.




Salute the nation
 
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In a perfect world
Sign Mark Barron,
Take the best CB in the 1st (DeAndre Baker) at 20.
Trade AB to Oakland for their 24th pick in the 1st and 2nd pick (66) in the 3rd
Take Riley Ridley at 24.
N'Keal Harry in the 2nd
Terrill Hanks in the 3rd via Oakland
Elgton Jenkins with our pick in the 3rd
Albert Huggins in the 4th
Jamel Dean at 6A
Tony Pollard at 6B
Gary Jennings in the 7th

Resign Foster, James, Hilton, Finney and Fort

Go to Jupiter, Fl and get a rub-n-tug immediately afterwards
 
In a perfect world
Sign Mark Barron,
Take the best CB in the 1st (DeAndre Baker) at 20.
Trade AB to Oakland for their 24th pick in the 1st and 2nd pick (66) in the 3rd
Take Riley Ridley at 24.
N'Keal Harry in the 2nd
Terrill Hanks in the 3rd via Oakland
Elgton Jenkins with our pick in the 3rd
Albert Huggins in the 4th
Jamel Dean at 6A
Tony Pollard at 6B
Gary Jennings in the 7th

Resign Foster, James, Hilton, Finney and Fort

Go to Jupiter, Fl and get a rub-n-tug immediately afterwards

well of course -ask fer sukme longtimz tell her Bob sent ya.
 
As ive said in other threads...

Best ILB available with our 1st pick, best Ilb a available with our 2nd pick. I spend the $ to get a CB opposite of Haden. Solves all of our defensive woes. We can survive with Bud and the current S

Get WR or DL on the 3rd. After the 3rd, i dont care a whole lot. Should be able to get good WR or OL prospects.
 
As ive said in other threads...

Best ILB available with our 1st pick, best Ilb a available with our 2nd pick.

Get WR or DL on the 3rd.

Sorry, I cannot sign off on NOT replacing AB with a first or second round talent. This is why you are the assitant GM

Please stay in your lane Ark. Your time will come soon grasshopper. I'm AM NOT not signing off on this back to back linebacker stuff, so it is squashed
 

because...

Jacksonville responded to the report Sunday, saying the team is not planning to trade Ramsey.

"The Jaguars have zero intention of trading CB Jalen Ramsey," the team said in a statement. "There is no truth to this rumor."

we're getting rid of one head case diva *****, why bring in another?
 
I was just checking that. Very odd but I would bring him in and kick the tires...

If you google Barron (not that you don't know who he is), you see he's listed at 214 on the landing page of the search.
Though he's as much as 230 per nfl.com
Safe to say he plays right in between there, at about 220-224. A bit light in the *** for a ILB, but Shazier wasn't a big, heavy dude. Regardless, Barron would be a significant upgrade to the platoon we employed next to Vincenzo last season. Though if we sign Barron, are we then moving Edwards to S full-time? I was under the impression we had plans for Edwards as a S/LB hybrid. Regardless, I'd go after Barron. Mix and match/flip and flop Barron and Edwards in various ways.

Since the Chefs have tagged Dee Ford and are said to be looking to bring in Landon Collins, I'd be on the phone with Steve Nelson's agent. Lining up across from Haden would give us two very good CBs. In fact, I'd rather see us go after Nelson than Barron, as I indicated above that I believe we drafted Edmunds as a S/LB hybrid. No sense in muddying the learning waters for Edmunds as he enters his second season and hinder his growth. Or, pigeon hole him in at S. That said, if I could get both Barron and Nelson, I'd do it. With Nelson being the #1 FA target. He's kind of flying under the radar with all the talk about AB's ***** *** and Bell's high ***** ***. Then the Ford tag with the Chiefs, Collins as mentioned ... no big talk about Nelson. Despite him having 15 passes defensed and four interceptions.

A secondary of Haden, Nelson, Davis and Edmunds would be quick and fast with Haden as the seasoned vet. Mix in Hilton and Sutton and we've got us a nice looking secondary on paper.

Adding Barron, too, would just be the coup de grace. We'd be much much improved on the defensive side of the ball from last year with those two signings alone. Which would give us a lot of options in the draft.

Would we package our first rounder with a second to move up for DK Metcalf? Assume for a moment that the Chiefs go all in on Bell and we trade AB to the Raiders. Then, if Metcalf makes it out of the top 10, we'd have the firepower with draft picks to move up. All holes on the team would be met with the exception of WR. Snagging Metcalf would be a nice move.

Or we stand pat at 20 and 24 and take Bush/White/Williams/Baker - whichever falls to us and makes us better, while taking the next one at 24 - but that is when Riley Ridley would pop up in the conversation. As would N'Keal Harry. Neither would make it to us in the 2nd round. I'd be tempted to take Bush/White at 20 and Ridley/Harry at 24.

So - sign Barron and Nelson
Draft Bush/White at 20, and Ridley/Harry at 24.

btw - if Hollywood Brown falls to us at 20, I'd be on the phone with his agent. I'd have him on speakerphone and let him know I'm either taking him at 20 or 24.
You know the first thing he's going to do is call his cousin Miss Big Kunt and the drama would start with them.
I'd have zero - less than zero, actually - intention of drafting him though.

20 pick rolls around, I'm taking Bush/White. And telling Brown he's my pick at 24 and I'll call him right back.

Then Ridley/Harry at 24.

**** AB and his family.
 
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Sorry, I cannot sign off on NOT replacing AB with a first or second round talent. This is why you are the assitant GM

Please stay in your lane Ark. Your time will come soon grasshopper. I'm AM NOT not signing off on this back to back linebacker stuff, so it is squashed

We got AB in the 6th. They can fi d his replacement in rounds afternthe 2nd.
 
If you google Barron (not that you don't know who he is), you see he's listed at 214 on the landing page of the search.
Though he's as much as 230 per nfl.com
Safe to say he plays right in between there, at about 220-224. A bit light in the *** for a ILB, but Shazier wasn't a big, heavy dude. Regardless, Barron would be a significant upgrade to the platoon we employed next to Vincenzo last season. Though if we sign Barron, are we then moving Edwards to S full-time? I was under the impression we had plans for Edwards as a S/LB hybrid. Regardless, I'd go after Barron. Mix and match/flip and flop Barron and Edwards in various ways.

Since the Chefs have tagged Dee Ford and are said to be looking to bring in Landon Collins, I'd be on the phone with Steve Nelson's agent. Lining up across from Haden would give us two very good CBs. In fact, I'd rather see us go after Nelson than Barron, as I indicated above that I believe we drafted Edmunds as a S/LB hybrid. No sense in muddying the learning waters for Edmunds as he enters his second season and hinder his growth. Or, pigeon hole him in at S. That said, if I could get both Barron and Nelson, I'd do it. With Nelson being the #1 FA target. He's kind of flying under the radar with all the talk about AB's ***** *** and Bell's high ***** ***. Then the Ford tag with the Chiefs, Collins as mentioned ... no big talk about Nelson. Despite him having 15 passes defensed and four interceptions.

A secondary of Haden, Nelson, Davis and Edmunds would be quick and fast with Haden as the seasoned vet. Mix in Hilton and Sutton and we've got us a nice looking secondary on paper.

Adding Barron, too, would just be the coup de grace. We'd be much much improved on the defensive side of the ball from last year with those two signings alone. Which would give us a lot of options in the draft.

Would we package our first rounder with a second to move up for DK Metcalf? Assume for a moment that the Chiefs go all in on Bell and we trade AB to the Raiders. Then, if Metcalf makes it out of the top 10, we'd have the firepower with draft picks to move up. All holes on the team would be met with the exception of WR. Snagging Metcalf would be a nice move.

Or we stand pat at 20 and 24 and take Bush/White/Williams/Baker - whichever falls to us and makes us better, while taking the next one at 24 - but that is when Riley Ridley would pop up in the conversation. As would N'Keal Harry. Neither would make it to us in the 2nd round. I'd be tempted to take Bush/White at 20 and Ridley/Harry at 24.

So - sign Barron and Nelson
Draft Bush/White at 20, and Ridley/Harry at 24.

btw - if Hollywood Brown falls to us at 20, I'd be on the phone with his agent. I'd have him on speakerphone and let him know I'm either taking him at 20 or 24.
You know the first thing he's going to do is call his cousin Miss Big Kunt and the drama would start with them.
I'd have zero - less than zero, actually - intention of drafting him though.

20 pick rolls around, I'm taking Bush/White. And telling Brown he's my pick at 24 and I'll call him right back.

Then Ridley/Harry at 24.

**** AB and his family.
So we both agree on going for a top CB in FA (Nelson was on my list)) an drafting ILB and WR in the 1st.

The only thing I disagree is on trading up for Metcalf, there's a lot of talent on this WR group, Harry could end up being better than Metcalf without having to lose a pick moving up, at least he appears to be more complete and NFL ready.

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If you google Barron (not that you don't know who he is), you see he's listed at 214 on the landing page of the search.
Though he's as much as 230 per nfl.com
Safe to say he plays right in between there, at about 220-224. A bit light in the *** for a ILB, but Shazier wasn't a big, heavy dude. Regardless, Barron would be a significant upgrade to the platoon we employed next to Vincenzo last season. Though if we sign Barron, are we then moving Edwards to S full-time? I was under the impression we had plans for Edwards as a S/LB hybrid. Regardless, I'd go after Barron. Mix and match/flip and flop Barron and Edwards in various ways.

Since the Chefs have tagged Dee Ford and are said to be looking to bring in Landon Collins, I'd be on the phone with Steve Nelson's agent. Lining up across from Haden would give us two very good CBs. In fact, I'd rather see us go after Nelson than Barron, as I indicated above that I believe we drafted Edmunds as a S/LB hybrid. No sense in muddying the learning waters for Edmunds as he enters his second season and hinder his growth. Or, pigeon hole him in at S. That said, if I could get both Barron and Nelson, I'd do it. With Nelson being the #1 FA target. He's kind of flying under the radar with all the talk about AB's ***** *** and Bell's high ***** ***. Then the Ford tag with the Chiefs, Collins as mentioned ... no big talk about Nelson. Despite him having 15 passes defensed and four interceptions.

A secondary of Haden, Nelson, Davis and Edmunds would be quick and fast with Haden as the seasoned vet. Mix in Hilton and Sutton and we've got us a nice looking secondary on paper.

Adding Barron, too, would just be the coup de grace. We'd be much much improved on the defensive side of the ball from last year with those two signings alone. Which would give us a lot of options in the draft.

Would we package our first rounder with a second to move up for DK Metcalf? Assume for a moment that the Chiefs go all in on Bell and we trade AB to the Raiders. Then, if Metcalf makes it out of the top 10, we'd have the firepower with draft picks to move up. All holes on the team would be met with the exception of WR. Snagging Metcalf would be a nice move.

Or we stand pat at 20 and 24 and take Bush/White/Williams/Baker - whichever falls to us and makes us better, while taking the next one at 24 - but that is when Riley Ridley would pop up in the conversation. As would N'Keal Harry. Neither would make it to us in the 2nd round. I'd be tempted to take Bush/White at 20 and Ridley/Harry at 24.

So - sign Barron and Nelson
Draft Bush/White at 20, and Ridley/Harry at 24.

btw - if Hollywood Brown falls to us at 20, I'd be on the phone with his agent. I'd have him on speakerphone and let him know I'm either taking him at 20 or 24.
You know the first thing he's going to do is call his cousin Miss Big Kunt and the drama would start with them.
I'd have zero - less than zero, actually - intention of drafting him though.

20 pick rolls around, I'm taking Bush/White. And telling Brown he's my pick at 24 and I'll call him right back.

Then Ridley/Harry at 24.

**** AB and his family.

You had me until the move up for Metcalf comment. Very high boom or bust player. (see production plus 3cone and short shuttle)

Hollywood will be drafted more than likely in the second round as he is coming off injury. And he isn't without concerns weight /disappeared in bowl game.I would be shocked if the Steelers took him at 20 buttttt say a late Green Bay pick which is almost a 2.....I could live with it provided a ILBer or CB of higher value isn't sitting there.

On board with Nelson coming to the team, as that probably is their best option available if it came to pass.

Metcalf, Sweat, and Greedy are the 1st round buyer beware prospects. I would much rather go elsewhere at 20, but with the later pick coming in from AB, perhaps they can gamble a little...............
 
in hindsight, which is always 20/20, pass on Metcalf...

his 3-cone was worse than Tom Brady's
 
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