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Penguins *******!

Pens on a roll. Crosby has been great the past four or five games and has one off game (where he still registers 2 assists and could easily have had 4 points) and suddenly we're doomed again?

I like Winnik. He's big, wins battles

Geno is God and Pouliot was great in his coming out party.
 
The Craps are going to be tough to beat. They were already pretty good BEFORE they picked up Glencross and Gleason.
 
The Caps? The Rangers just picked up Keith Yandle and resigned Zuccarello. Couple other small moves. If this pans out for them, they have to the favorite from the East, maybe to win it all.
 
Dave Molinari@MolinariPG Trade deadline just over seven hours away. No indication Penguins have called off their search for an experienced defenseman. Penguins, though, seem reluctant to part with more early-round draft choices this year or next. Have very little cap space, too..

Comeau, Downie and Sutter "in play"?



all the trades here

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-2014-15-complete-trade-list-1.210847
 
Dave Molinari@MolinariPG Trade deadline just over seven hours away. No indication Penguins have called off their search for an experienced defenseman. Penguins, though, seem reluctant to part with more early-round draft choices this year or next. Have very little cap space, too..

Comeau, Downie and Sutter "in play"?



all the trades here

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-2014-15-complete-trade-list-1.210847

Please not Comeau, he's a playoff type player that you need on your team in the playoffs, IMO.

papillon
 
If anyone, Downie....can't take dumb penalties in the PO's, he's older and the other two have more upside ahead......Comeau should be untouchable.
 
Do the Penguins have any chance of escaping the second round?

For most of the season, I’ve thought the Pittsburgh Penguins do not match up well against the Washington Capitals or New York Rangers.

Both teams are big and physical…and both got even better this weekend.

Washington swapped out defenseman Jack Hillen for Tim Gleason, then traded two picks to Calgary for Curtis Glencross.

Gleason isn’t the same player he used to be a few years ago but he’ll still add physicality and veteran experience at the bottom of the lineup.

The same could be said of Glencross — although I think the upside is higher with him.

Glencross is 32 and probably looking for a final multi-year deal to take him into retirement. Motivated by an upcoming free agent payday and playing alongside talented players in a playoff race could be a recipe for success.

The Rangers were looking like a potential back-to-back Eastern Conference Champ even before adding a defenseman capable of playing over 25 minutes a night: Keith Yandle from Arizona.

New York is ‘all in’ on this group. Their Stanley Cup window will probably be open for one more season — if that — and I’m sure that syncs up with GM Glen Sather’s tenure as well.

That’s bad news for the Penguins, who might have to beat both of these teams just to advance to the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Should Jim Rutherford engage in an arms race?

Pittsburgh definitely improved over the past two months with the addition of David Perron and Daniel Winnik in proactive deals by GM Jim Rutherford.

I don’t think it’s enough.

But is it worth chasing one more big deal, even if Pittsburgh still wouldn’t be the favorite to come out of the East?

The Penguins were considering at least one significant trade this weekend that involved multiple roster players. One factor Rutherford has to consider is the impact a potential blockbuster would have on the psyche of the team with just 20 games left in the season.

New York and Washington added significant pieces without sacrificing much off the NHL roster.

Pittsburgh has already been through a lot of change over the last nine months. Former Penguins GM Ray Shero learned the hard way how too many deals can disrupt chemistry on and off the ice.

http://www.colliganhockey.com/5-questions-penguins-trade-deadline-moves/
 
Anyone? Bort and Despres for Cole and Lovejoy. Hello hello Echo echo...
 
FUCKITY ****! Rutherford got bent the **** over......wtf? A top 4 D prospect for a perennial healthy scratch that we dealt 5 years ago for a lousy 5th round pick? FUCKITY ******* ****!
 
I'm Ok with the Bortuzzo trade, but think trading Despres for Joystick was unnecessary. Rutherford made a trade to make a trade or so it seems. Didn't need to be made and will not impact the PO much for them.
 
The Pens gave up on Depres. At least Lovejoy can move the puck. It's all about now.
 
I'm Ok with the Bortuzzo trade, but think trading Despres for Joystick was unnecessary. Rutherford made a trade to make a trade or so it seems. Didn't need to be made and will not impact the PO much for them.

It's a little worse than "unnecessary"....In fact Despres and Borts were two of the reasons Lovejoy was traded initally. Time will tell if the Bortuzzo swap was a good one but Despres even at his tender age is better than Lovejoy will ever be and is already comfortable in the system vs. a guy who will have to adjust on the fly. Complete head scratcher......and it's really not just about the PO's but the future. It just doesn't make any sense.......especially as a 1 for 1 trade. No draft picks, etc. just straight up. The best we could get for Despres was Lovejoy? Definite downgrade......SMH.
 
Bortuzzo and a 7th (2016) for Ian Cole (Blues retain $225k salary) = barely OK

Despres for Lovejoy = vomiting


We are the smurf team now, just gave away any size we had on the blue line


Thank God the deadline expired before JR could trade away Bennett for Letestu.
 
Bortuzzo was just a guy...Cole is +40 for his career...and he's probably just as nasty.

I liked Despree...but he's not the 2nd coming of Letang, though imo, he tried to be...tons of brain farts...Lovejoy has been solid since he left.

good deals.
 
Bortuzzo was just a guy...Cole is +40 for his career...and he's probably just as nasty.

I liked Despree...but he's not the 2nd coming of Letang, though imo, he tried to be...tons of brain farts...Lovejoy has been solid since he left.

good deals.

I don't know much about Cole, but Lovejoy turned it around when he left Bylsma's system.
 
Dave Molinari @MolinariPG Have confirmed that the Lovejoy-Despres trade is strictly a one-for-one swap. No draft choices or other assets involved.

Despres was originally selected by the Pittsburgh Penguins in the first round of the 2009 draft, 30th overall.



One for one makes no sense - not even a draft pick for Despres? He was 23, 6'4, physical, with tons of upside - does not compute - Mario must hate him


Remember when we had all those young D prospects and we were so excited to find out who would play for us and who we would trade for good young wingers for Sid?

well now we traded two of them, and in return we got.....


Move over Habs, we are the smurf team of the East now


Bob Pompeani @KDPomp
Clearly, the Penguins have de-valued the physical side of playing defense...as Bortuzzo and Despres were top two hitters on the blueline



ha ha - and we play the Ducks on Fri...funny how that happens
 
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we got a former #1 with tons of upside and a solid D-man...iirc, Lovejoy was pretty good on the PK too.

lotsa love for Despree, who isn't gonna be the #2, even if Martin goes away next year.
 
Lovejoy is 31 - there's no upside - what you see is what you get,

I don't have anything against Lovejoy. The Ducks developed him into a decent player. The problem is, we gave up a much younger, cheaper player with size to get him.

This trade just seems really unnecessary. So much for getting bigger and more physical on defense.

The NHL channel is blasting the move, and the best part is that Lovejoy is a free agent after next year. So he could likely be walking too.
 
Lovejoy is 31 - there's no upside - what you see is what you get,

I don't have anything against Lovejoy. The Ducks developed him into a decent player. The problem is, we gave up a much younger, cheaper player with size to get him.

This trade just seems really unnecessary. So much for getting bigger and more physical on defense.

The NHL channel is blasting the move, and the best part is that Lovejoy is a free agent after next year. So he could likely be walking too.

And this is absolutely the bad side of this trade. I'm not sure that either move made the team any better.
 
The Despres - Lovejoy trade was stupid. I am not high on Despres by any stretch, but you basically traded him for the same player skill wise that is 8 years older. It makes no sense.

Bort for Cole was fantastic trade. Cole is a much better defenseman than Bortuzzo. Easily. Not sure he is as physical, but he is certainly more skilled and plays smarter. Pens fans are gonna love Cole once he settles in to the system.
 
JR - "when we really broke it down, if we didn't have the number of young defensemen we currently have, this would have been a really difficult trade to make. But when we're sitting there with Maatta, Pouliot, Dumoulin and Harrington, as some point in time these guys have to get in, and they all can't get put in at the same time. So that's when we had more of a comfort level, the fact that we had so many young defensemen, and we were trying to get more experience"

So we have too many young D prospects - that's his explanation? So keep him another year till his stock goes up and trade him for a young winger.


No wonder we didn't get a pick added in. We didn't even ask...what do they see in Lovejoy that they just HAD to have?

Ducks Trade Deadline Acquisitions

On Despres’ upside.........'He’s not well-known around here. He’s a big, strong kid that moves the puck. He plays a big, physical game. He closes gaps really well. He’s a big-bodied guy, which is something we needed. The big thing with him is that he’s young, and to keep playing within himself. He has a chance to become a very solid top-four defenseman in the future.'

On if Despres was on his radar...'This is somebody we had asked about on a few occasions whenever we talked to Pittsburgh. It was Jimmy who came to me with this one. This is one of those guys that I’ve watched and liked, and wanted to get my hands on.'

http://ducks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=756191&navid=DL|ANA|home
 
This team has become an unknown to me. I don't know what to think. The Pens are embarking on a 4 game road trip........
.We will see.
 
CBS sports

Pittsburgh Penguins: "I don't like the Simon Despres for Ben Lovejoy swap from a Pittsburgh perspective. Not only is Despres eight years younger, the Penguins traded a recent first-round draft pick to re-acquire a guy they traded away two years ago for a late-round draft pick. But when you look at what Pittsburgh has done from a big picture standpoint over the past few months it is a much better, deeper team than it was at the start of the season.

David Perron, Daniel Winnik, Ian Cole, Max Lapierre and Lovejoy have all been added since the start of the regular season while only giving up Rob Klinkhammer, some draft picks, Zach Sill , Bortuzzo, Marcel Goc and Despres. In the end, that's a win, especially when you look at their bottom-six forward group that is light years better than what they were putting on the ice in the playoffs a year ago.

If they are willing to trust Derrick Pouliot in a top-four defense role alongside Christian Ehrhoff when he returns their defense could be one of the most talented ones in the league with Kris Letang and Paul Martin leading the top-pairing"


"Lovejoy has missed significant time with an injury this year, but he has been a solid performer for the Ducks when healthy. He has 11 points in 40 games this year while averaging 18:33 of ice time. He returns to the Penguins after three years in Anaheim.

Lovejoy joined the Penguins as an unrestricted free agent and saw stints in the NHL lineup between 2008-09 and 2012-13 before being dealt to the Ducks. By the way, the Penguins sent Lovejoy to Anaheim for a fifth-round draft pick back then.

In 248 career NHL games, Lovejoy has 64 points.

This is an interesting deal considering how high the Penguins had been on Despres over the years as a former first-round pick. He's also just 23 years old and still growing into his game.

Despres has finally been a full-time NHLer this season and has played well enough in a somewhat limited role. In 59 games he has 17 points, while averaging 16:23 per game. With several defensemen in the prospect pipeline, perhaps they viewed Despres as expendable, but he's far from a finished product in his career.

The Ducks get even younber on defense, but also get a tad bigger with Despres. He's also just a bit cheaper than Lovejoy as both are still under contract next season.

The Penguins are obviously going for the Stanley Cup this year and having a veteran with a little extra experience like Lovejoy might help. But this is a pretty steep price for the organization to pay to essentially acquire a defenseman whose biggest difference – and this is important to many teams – was his handedness. Despres is a left-hand shot, while Lovejoy is a righty.

After all the time the Penguins invested in Despres to extract value from him as a former first-round pick, it seems like a strage time to pull the chute on him, even if they're gaining a more experienced player in Lovejoy.

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on...uire-ben-lovejoy-from-ducks-for-simon-despres
 
Not only are we getting older, smaller, but we've also mortgaged a lot of the future on this season. With most of the trades and one-year FA signings from this past off-season, there's a damn fine chance this team will not look the same as it does today. The Rangers got stronger, as did the Caps, Bruins and Habs. The Pens may have gained experience is various areas, but time will tell if they are a better TEAM. Not that I hoping this in the least, but this very well could happen, if they go out in the first round, whose head will roll?
 
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