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Post it here. What are your thoughts on Mason Rudolph being the starter

No i don't think he will be the starter unless the team is planning on tanking. I think we will bring in a mid tier veteran to be a starter. If the line is not heavily addressed and we can't find more creative routes then it won't matter anyways.
 
Does it really matter? Look, Tomlin put this POS offensive line together for our HOF QB in his final year of play. Do you really think he is capable of fixing that mistake? He said and did it before. Tomlin's philosophy was always weapons first - he doesn't believe that games are won in the trenches. It took Munchack to make our line a solid unit (and dare I say Haley's offensive scheme). Tomlin will ride with his guys - do or die as he always does and will not look to improve a thing. Round 1 we will see a WR taken because that is the missing piece to this offence - another weapon to back the D off, lol. Then he will take a CB because if the guy covers well, it will give our Dline time to get home. Tomlin lacks basic football sense and the basics of play. We could have the 2nd coming of Montana or Marino under center and it will not change a thing.

Hell, I'd make the wager that should Tomlin ever be fired by the Steelers and get another HC gig, he would be fired from that position within 5 years (3 years most likely) and never again be a HC in the NFL!
 
I don’t think Rudy is the starter in 2022. I really think they go after either Trubisky or Marriotta who are both free agents. And if you look at their stats they aren’t bad. Both have good TD to int ratio. Also Trubisky has a pro bowl selection and a playoff appearance and Mariotta has two playoff appearances. Both much better options than Mason and don’t have to give up anything to sign them, free agents. Possibly with new team and better surroundings could do well here. Must add talent to OL though but that can be done with draft and free agency.
I agree the Steelers should sign a veteran. But I don’t think the Steelers long term anyone they sign. I think Trubisky and Marriotta are good picks. Not sure they sign a prove it deal but I’d be fine if we did ink one. I worry they don’t bring a vet in and just try to sign Haskins cheap again to compete though. And that’s not much of any challenge. I’d rather push Rudolph to earn the spot than hand it over.
 
Two options, either Rudolph thrives and we have trade value or he sucks and we get a better draft pick in the next draft, where we should get the future franchise QB.

Either way is a win win situation
Yep. 2023 is likely a better QB crop and if Rudolph sucks we would be in the thick of it for a top pick. Then grab your franchise QB. If Rudolph does well then we probably give him a long term deal.
 
We will be a mediocre team with a mediocre QB. But then again we are only mediocre right now so it won't matter all that much until we get a better O Line and some better defensive players.
 
Rudolph has flaws and potential… people writing him off ignore the multitude of decent things he showed especially early in his year starting… its hard to say what he is or isn’t yet… his arm was just ok coming out, but thats better than several high profile qbs that had straight noodle arms at first… having a natural super arm is great, but if you don’t you can rectify that… just ask Brady or Brees…

Its really tough to judge a qb in a crap offense … a lot of tge first takes on Rudolph were really tied to Fitchner turning the o into a dink and dunk that season, not the qb running it…

He is good at not taking sacks behind a suspect line but not truly mobile… he hasn’t showed a penchant for improvising, but runs an o the way it is designed well… he still needs to show he is better at presnap reads …

All in all id rather have him starting than Haskins…

Look sure there is a chance that he could be a starter for is, but i think he will be at best a stopgap guy… maybe we will luck out and the switch will turn on next season and he will take off, but as is i tend to think that he deserves a chance to start, but won’t be better than a Neil odonnel type
100% agree. Rudolph runs the offense the way it’s designed. He throws a nice deep ball, but needs to either get more accurate or more timing with intermediate routes. His presnap reads aren’t up to par and not spotting blitzes could really hurt.
I say having a 1 in 3 shot at success here is fair. He at least deserves a shot. Seems like a good teammate and all in all a good guy. He hasn’t complained about not getting a shot and says the right things about his and Roethlisberger relationship to the media.
 
100% agree. Rudolph runs the offense the way it’s designed. He throws a nice deep ball, but needs to either get more accurate or more timing with intermediate routes. His presnap reads aren’t up to par and not spotting blitzes could really hurt.
I say having a 1 in 3 shot at success here is fair. He at least deserves a shot. Seems like a good teammate and all in all a good guy. He hasn’t complained about not getting a shot and says the right things about his and Roethlisberger relationship to the media.
I mean if they draft a qb in this draft he almost certainly will need a season to sit… and while they will bring in a vet to challenge Rudolph, they aren’t trading multiple high picks for one and a guy like Rodgers is going to want more money than we should be commiing to a guy one year younger than Ben
 
My preferred would be to have him sink or swim in 22 as opposed to bringing in someone who might win 10 games and get into the last wildcard. If Mason is good enough that is different
 
I just don't want to see more years wasted because Tomlin goes out and digs up a stud FA quarterback to continue hiding his incompetence.

Draft O & D line, as well as a MLB. Build the core of the team and go for a franchise QB when one is available and realistically attainable.
 
Round 1 we will see a WR taken because that is the missing piece to this offence - another weapon to back the D off, lol. Then he will take a CB because if the guy covers well, it will give our Dline time to get home. Tomlin lacks basic football sense and the basics of play. We could have the 2nd coming of Montana or Marino under center and it will not change a thing.

In Tomlin 15 drafts, there has only been 2 offensive skill positions taken first round, najee and Mendenhall….only 4 corners in the top 3 rounds in 15 years.
 
Absolutely no chance to be a starter in the NFL and win consistently. He has very average to below average arm. He has no pocket awareness, and limited athletic ability or mobility

He legit lost the job to the Duck. Duck Hodges out played him that year. Both were embarrassing to watch

The only reason he’s on the team is colberts Ego not wanting to admit he was a terrible wasted pick.

At best he’s a number 2 QB in this league. And honestly he’s really a number 3.
 
Those of you that think having a mediocre QB will advance the HC's departure really is in for some bad news.
 
Those of you that think having a mediocre QB will advance the HC's departure really is in for some bad news.
It will be at least real. If they get someone or worse make a big trade they still won't win and you I'll be back here anyhow. Like I said if they can get 10 wins with Rudolph it's different.
 
Really and truthfully honestly if you put up a huge line in front of Harris you would not see a big drop off from Rudolph led offense and this season. How could it be significantly worse.
 
First off, Duck did not out play Rudy, he came in when he got hurt. After the helmet deal, I think they rushed him back too soon, because of Duck’s Play.

Second, if Marriota or Trubinsy were any good, they would still have their starting gigs right now. The were demoted for a reason, and going to a team with ZERO history of coaching up ANY QB, is not going to turn their career around.

Third, there is too much money that needs to be spent fixing 10 other positions, to spend on a top FA QB. I don’t put it past them, as Tomlin was a penchant for doing stupid ****.

Rudy is the best option right now. He may fail, but he may not. He gives them a chance to right the ship, for the next guy, if it doesn’t turn out to be him.
 
Rudy can be a #2 qb. He isn't effective enough to be a regular starter in this league. We, as fans, are in for some rough years. I don't have any confidence that Tombert can come up with really good play at the qb position.

They had a first round grade on Rudy. That shows you how far off their assessment was. That same flawed assessment scheme is still alive with Tombert.

Tomlin has not shown that he can "develop " a qb. He hasn't yet. In how many years?

This team will be 7-10 for years to come.
 
Rudy can be a #2 qb. He isn't effective enough to be a regular starter in this league. We, as fans, are in for some rough years. I don't have any confidence that Tombert can come up with really good play at the qb position.

They had a first round grade on Rudy. That shows you how far off their assessment was. That same flawed assessment scheme is still alive with Tombert.

Tomlin has not shown that he can "develop " a qb. He hasn't yet. In how many years?

This team will be 7-10 for years to come.


If the goal is superbowl championship it isn't happening with the current coaching administration. I guess we will be forced to suffer through 3-5 years more of bullshit.

Whomever sucks the most,put him in. I'd like to get from point A to point B faster.

A straight line of suck is optimal.


I dare them to prove me wrong.
 
Rudolph starting next season or getting a shot to start makes sense to me next year. Work on securing your trenches on both sides and nail down a solid secondary. If the do bring in a solid veteran QB to start next season so be it.
 
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The decision on Tuitt needs to be made before draft day. He needs to be evaluated and decided so as it's not a surprise on how he will be handled should he not return. Appropriations need to be made whether through the draft or FA.

Can our current staff manage this properly ?



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Agree. Tuitt isn't out due to injury. His knee was good to go months ago. After this season, sit him down and see if he's ready to play. And, if he says he is, make him be at the facility just about daily working out and interacting. Don't take his word for it. Per the one article I read a week or two ago, he saves around $9 million if he's a pre-June 1st cut or something like that. I'd look to trade him or cut him based on what he says AND does in the few weeks after the season.
 
Agree. Tuitt isn't out due to injury. His knee was good to go months ago. After this season, sit him down and see if he's ready to play. And, if he says he is, make him be at the facility just about daily working out and interacting. Don't take his word for it. Per the one article I read a week or two ago, he saves around $9 million if he's a pre-June 1st cut or something like that. I'd look to trade him or cut him based on what he says AND does in the few weeks after the season.



I don't mean to sound callous or insensitive, but put up or shut up is the bottom line. Expect the worse and hope for the best but either way you must be

PRO-active and not RE-active

Something our current staff is only good at the latter of the two.





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I think Mason Rudolph's ceiling is "mediocre QB". That said, I think he'll be our starter next year. Of course, I want a real QB, but I want a real head coach, too, not one that should have been ****-canned a decade ago.

And no thanks to Mariota. I've seen enough of him to know he's not taking any team anywhere. Trubisky, all I know is he was a first round pick for the Bears, and they don't really understand offensive football. He might be good somewhere, but unlikely here. I hope he's good at running for his life. Is that why some of you like Mariota?
 
If the goal is superbowl championship it isn't happening with the current coaching administration. I guess we will be forced to suffer through 3-5 years more of bullshit.

Whomever sucks the most,put him in. I'd like to get from point A to point B faster.

A straight line of suck is optimal.


I dare them to prove me wrong.
This says exactly what I'm trying to say. Rudolph swims unexpectedly and they don't need a first round qb or he does what people here believe and they are right where they should be to get a qb (and there isn't usually two poor crops in a row). And then hopefully at the same time the Rooneys wake the **** up. You could take the DNA of Brady and Montana and impregnate an Woman's Olympic Champion and have him play at Alabama and dipshit would **** that up anyhow.
 
My thoughts are this, with Tomlin on the sideline, what does it matter? We'll get more mediocre football followed by a mediocre to lousy draft. Wash, rinse, repeat.
 
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