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Mods, please make this thread a sticky. Tibs can't seem to remember the intent of the Trump winning thread, which is "This thread is for posting about WINNING. Share freely and often. Monumental legislation, key appointments, critical Executive Orders, influential foreign policy meetings, post what you want."

He's begun using that as a trash bin where he posits and posts any and all of his anti-Conservative nonsense.

We enjoy it, don't get me wrong, it just doesn't belong there. So let's dedicate a thread to Tibs and his profound thinking.

Thank you.
 
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I actually enjoy the back and forth in the other thread. Not that anyone is changing their mind but it is interesting and often humorous.
 
I actually enjoy the back and forth in the other thread. Not that anyone is changing their mind but it is interesting and often humorous.

But Tibs input has nada to do with the intent of the thread. There are plenty created within which we can debate different subjects.
 
Personally I think Trump is nothing more than an agitator in hockey... he is a troll, an instigator...as with every president I think he has maybe 1% to do with actual policy or rulemaking... all his appointees do that...

He is a figurehead, nothing more, except this figurehead isn’t pulling the typical statesman facade most politicians do, instead he is belligerent and combative and downright annoying... his opponents lose their **** trying to get him and ultimately tear themselves apart instead... it’s comical and sad at the same time.

I also think he is the least conservative “conservative” I’ve ever seen... honestly had he run as a D, i tink the moderate Ds would actually love him...

Im all for the two big parties tearing each other down so Im fine with all of this, though we eventually need a non socialist non globalist moderate to pull this country back together sooner or later... the extremists should never get the civil war part 2 so many crave so badly....
 
Personally I think Trump is nothing more than an agitator in hockey... he is a troll, an instigator...as with every president I think he has maybe 1% to do with actual policy or rulemaking... all his appointees do that...

He is a figurehead, nothing more, except this figurehead isn’t pulling the typical statesman facade most politicians do, instead he is belligerent and combative and downright annoying... his opponents lose their **** trying to get him and ultimately tear themselves apart instead... it’s comical and sad at the same time.

I also think he is the least conservative “conservative” I’ve ever seen... honestly had he run as a D, i tink the moderate Ds would actually love him...

Im all for the two big parties tearing each other down so Im fine with all of this, though we eventually need a non socialist non globalist moderate to pull this country back together sooner or later... the extremists should never get the civil war part 2 so many crave so badly....

It's been a long, long time (Reagan) since I voted for someone instead of against someone, sad really that this is what we've come to.
 
We all should be proud and honored to know that the brave stalwarts of justice are coming forward in the name of all that is good to stomp on the evil, criminal, and immoral denizens that populate our society.

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I shudder to think where we would be without them.
 
We all should be proud and honored to know that the brave stalwarts of justice are coming forward in the name of all that is good to stomp on the evil, criminal, and immoral denizens that populate our society.

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I shudder to think where we would be without them.


Wow. What an unhinged nitwit.
 
We all should be proud and honored to know that the brave stalwarts of justice are coming forward in the name of all that is good to stomp on the evil, criminal, and immoral denizens that populate our society.

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I shudder to think where we would be without them.

Sad part is Tibs had to hold himself back from declaring her an American Patriot, a stalwart citizen, a beacon of freedom loving peoples everywhere, that she is truly the definition of self-sacrifice and love of country.

Or something like that.
 
You guys have gone all off topic here. This is a pro-Lib thread, yinz deplorable Nazis git chore sorry ***** back to your Trumptard 'winning' place.

Good....now let me explain what we're doin' here so that we's on the same page.

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"We hereby unveil these articles of impeachment, which clearly lay out the undeniable fact that we will not win the White House back next year," as per Rep. 'Nads' Nadler. "We have found Trump guilty of absolutely nothing, but we already started this whole process and it would look bad to back out now, so here we are."

"I declare here and now that Trump will be in the White House for at least another four years."

Some questioned if this was the best strategy, but we pointed out that with four more years of Trump, we will be able to generate far more outrage than if we
took back the White House. "It's a lot more fun to be extremists and scream at the sky for years and years instead of proposing policies that most Americans support and actually win elections."

Comeon guys get with the program here. There's plenty left to do and we got a great new 'green deal' to push ahead on and a new candidate to co-ordinate it.

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While you're at it, a little support for our 'Green' poster child would be nice.

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Personally I think Trump is nothing more than an agitator in hockey... he is a troll, an instigator...as with every president I think he has maybe 1% to do with actual policy or rulemaking... all his appointees do that...

He is a figurehead, nothing more, except this figurehead isn’t pulling the typical statesman facade most politicians do, instead he is belligerent and combative and downright annoying... his opponents lose their **** trying to get him and ultimately tear themselves apart instead... it’s comical and sad at the same time.

I also think he is the least conservative “conservative” I’ve ever seen... honestly had he run as a D, i tink the moderate Ds would actually love him...

Im all for the two big parties tearing each other down so Im fine with all of this, though we eventually need a non socialist non globalist moderate to pull this country back together sooner or later... the extremists should never get the civil war part 2 so many crave so badly....

While I agree with this and applaud its conciseness, I don't necessarily agree that Trump is just a figurehead.

He is likely one of the most "alone" Presidents we've ever had. Every report says he distrusts his cabinet and career Washington support staff. He fires people constantly, looking for new voices in the room (or voices that agree with him in principle and are willing to execute them).

I also think that while Presidents do have very little ability to change policy (except with very small changes to the scales of right/left ideology), President DO control the narrative around policy. They have huge influence in deciding what issues become important or not important.

Trump's voice was heard because he was the first to bring up issues few other candidates bothered with: immigration and socialist globalization (and the general lack of Nationality) and the trade-manufacturing connection. Sure, Republicans talked about these things in the past, but they DID very little. For the most part, the Republican platform was pretty much to "go with the flow" and not rock the boat. George Bush was the primary example of what the Republican party turned into on these issues. In his eight years in office, I can't think of one meaningful speech on any of those issues. In fact, for the last decade, the Republican platform on LatinX immigration was "tread carefully because we need their votes". Instead, through the whole Tea Party years, Republicans went back to trying to be the "morality party" and "fiscal conservative party" both of which didn't resonate or win vs. what Obama (the snake oil salesmen he was) sold America.

So Trump ditched all of those things. He certainly couldn't win on a morality platform, but he could attack on rampant political correctness run a muck. And he completely turned immigration on its head and instead of treading lightly trying to be all things to all people, he finally took a position: To be strongly against illegal immigration, period, on all fronts. And he honed in on a demographic the democrats were leaving behind: white, blue-collar workers.

That's his three-pronged platform and he's not backing down. Nationalism. Stronger borders. Continue to say what white, blue-collar voters want to hear. Everything else be damned.

He's also amazing at finding groups that people already dislike (media, congress, career politicians) and relentlessly bullying and attacking them. I mean if you are part of a group or profession that has low approval ratings in the eyes of the American people, Trump will likely be attacking you in some form or another.

And on the other side of the coin, he attaches himself (and implies that Democrats attack them) those groups and professions that still get high marks in approval ratings: Police, Military, Church

It literally is one of the most brilliant political strategies in our lifetime.
 
Personally I think Trump is nothing more than an agitator in hockey... he is a troll, an instigator...as with every president I think he has maybe 1% to do with actual policy or rulemaking... all his appointees do that...

He is a figurehead, nothing more, except this figurehead isn’t pulling the typical statesman facade most politicians do, instead he is belligerent and combative and downright annoying... his opponents lose their **** trying to get him and ultimately tear themselves apart instead... it’s comical and sad at the same time.

I also think he is the least conservative “conservative” I’ve ever seen... honestly had he run as a D, i tink the moderate Ds would actually love him...

Im all for the two big parties tearing each other down so Im fine with all of this, though we eventually need a non socialist non globalist moderate to pull this country back together sooner or later... the extremists should never get the civil war part 2 so many crave so badly....

The secondary, less dangerous but still annoying strain of TDS - Trump Denial Syndrome.
 
We all should be proud and honored to know that the brave stalwarts of justice are coming forward in the name of all that is good to stomp on the evil, criminal, and immoral denizens that populate our society.

h1FKBo.jpg


I shudder to think where we would be without them.

Pass
 
They ARE coming for your guns. Don't let them tell you otherwise.

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/12/21/more-than-a-third-of-democrats-favor-gun-confiscation/

Nearly 40% of Democrats Favor Gun Confiscation

More Than A Third Of Democrats Favor Gun Confiscation

While many anti-gunners will argue that they’re not interested in taking away all of our guns or anything, the truth is that a startling number are more than pleased with the idea of gun confiscation.

Despite some calls for 2020 Democratic presidential candidates to scale back on the liberal pandering, a sizable number of party voters back the most leftist of the promises, including “Medicare for all,” gun grabs from those who’ve committed no crime, and a legal open border, according to a new survey.

The latest Zogby Analytics survey, provided to Secrets, also found solid support for slavery reparations to African Americans and the Green New Deal.

The survey was a wide-ranging review of where Democrats stand on key issues and candidates.

The survey found that 36 percent, almost four in 10 Democrats, favor confiscating firearms from people who have committed no crimes at all. In other words, they really do want to come for your guns.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/24/...budget-in-anticipation-of-jailing-gun-owners/

VA is Laying the Groundwork to Begin Jailing Gun Owners

Virginia Governor Northam Increases Corrections Budget In Anticipation Of Jailing Gun Owners

As if Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam’s wholesale attack on law-abiding gun owners wasn’t enough, the disgraced public official and his Michael Bloomberg-bought allies in the General Assembly now want the state’s hard-working taxpayers to foot the bill for their unconstitutional schemes. The budget bill (HB30) includes an appropriation of a quarter million dollars to carry out a host of gun control measures that Northam and his anti-gun allies hope to enact.

The $250,000 is appropriated to the Corrections Special Reserve Fund in order to provide for the “increase in the operating cost of adult correctional facilities resulting from the enactment” of Northam’s gun control measures. Among the enumerated laws that this allocation is meant to fund is a ban on commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms, the criminalization of private firearms transfers, and gun confiscation orders issued without due process.

Aside from the insult of forcing law-abiding Virginia taxpayers to pay for the diminution of their rights, the gun control allocation is a severe waste of resources. Northam’s Bloomberg-backed gun control measures will not make Virginia safer.

In additional to being unconstitutional, a ban on commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms will not reduce violent crime.

Long guns of any description are rarely used in violent crime. FBI Uniform Crime Reporting data breaks down homicides by weapon type. In 2018, the FBI reported that there were five times as many individuals listed as killed with “knives or cutting instruments,” than with rifles of any kind. The data also showed that rifles were listed as being used in less homicides than “blunt objects (clubs, hammers, etc.)” or “personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.).”

A 1997 Department of Justice-funded study of the 1994 federal “assault weapons” ban determined that “At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders.” A 2004 follow-up Department of Justice-funded study came to a similar conclusion. The study determined that “AWs [assault weapons] and LCMs [large capacity magazines] were used in only a minority of gun crimes prior to the 1994 federal ban,” “relatively few attacks involve more than 10 shots fired,” and “the ban’s effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement.”
 
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