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Ray Rice plea deal

Look, I agree with you that the case was kind of BS- but you are being kind of a homer right now.

Ben had two similar incidents in a short time span. Sure the girls may not have "wanted" to be in the public eye, but they never said anything to diffuse the story or speak glowingly of Ben's character. As a result, the media ran on its own limited and sometimes tainted view. Basically, their lack of a statement was a statement in and of itself. Rice's wife was proactive in diffusing the situation which DEFINITELY helped his case with public opinion and eventually the shield.

Not saying BB was guilty at all in either case- but public opinion is huge. After the second incident occur, no matter how contrived it may have been, public opinion began to turn very strongly
The whole problem is this. Roger rewrote the entire player conduct policy based upon the fact that Ben was not charged, but somehow brought dishonor to the league. So he gave him a six game suspension and a two game time off for good behavior. Since then he has not applied that part of the player conduct policy in any way towards players who were actuallly charged. How is the Kapernick case any different. That was my problem with the whole thing when it happened. If the allegation can not even stand up to a charge, what would stop any person who could prove they were alone with Tom Brady say, make that allegation. Two Weeks say before the super bowl. What then?
Roger's complete failure is that he is a knee jerk reactor. He wants whatever problem is on his plate to simply go away for now. Not realizing that there will be ripple effects down the road, when seven months later three packers are charged with Sexual assualt and Darren Sharper was a serial rapist and he did nothing about that.
Same with the Bully case in Miami. Knee jerk media play. The facts weren't even out and he tried the thing in the court of public opinion. Same with bounty gate. Did he even think to listen to Suggs talk about the bounty they had on Ward's head and how that looked.
Funny there is only one glaring thing he didn't rush to judge or allow to go to the court of public opinion. hmm what could that be..............
 
I hope Rice gets no discipline. I want him on the field. He can't run behind the Rats o-line. Keep him in!
 
This guy was and has been trashed all through out Baltimore. A woman beater, lazy and not a good guy!! NOW, see told ya to wait, he will be back better than ever, Pro Bowl, Prove it to the world and a real good guy in the community.
 
You said it yourself. She pressed charges. She went on to tell her "terrible story of the Big Bad Ben" regardless how drunk/slutty she might have been. Whether it was her/her friends/family, they put the story out to the public and the media ate it up. The suspension was bull-----, but everyone in the media was looking at Roger to do something.

The munchkin's case is the exact opposite. The girl did her best to keep the story away from the media- despite the glaring video evidence. No media outrage mean no profits lost, which means no action necessary by Goddell...

Listen numbnuts, if you don't know the difference between "filing a police report" and "pressing charges" I'm not sure what I can say to help you. I DO know that when the nice ******* officers at the station ask you to come on down to clear some things about your statement up, the way you don't "press charges" is to tell them to kindly **** off because you no longer want to deal with anything having to do with them or the statement. But hey, I have common sense, so you might not understand.

Joe
 
Look, I agree with you that the case was kind of BS- but you are being kind of a homer right now.

Ben had two similar incidents in a short time span. Sure the girls may not have "wanted" to be in the public eye, but they never said anything to diffuse the story or speak glowingly of Ben's character. As a result, the media ran on its own limited and sometimes tainted view. Basically, their lack of a statement was a statement in and of itself. Rice's wife was proactive in diffusing the situation which DEFINITELY helped his case with public opinion and eventually the shield.

Not saying BB was guilty at all in either case- but public opinion is huge. After the second incident occur, no matter how contrived it may have been, public opinion began to turn very strongly

He's the quarterback of the Steelers, not the prom queen. **** public opinion. If ******* Roger can show loss of dollars based on what happened then he can file a ************* civil suit like anyone else. Otherwise he can suck it. I think there is a certain 49'ers quarterback in a questionable situation as I type this, that's a pretty ******* "storied" franchise wouldn't you say? Where is the outrage and swift action from our ******* douchebag commish? Absent. How about a VERY recently crowned SuperBowl teams star running back? That's a pretty major role, isn't it? This post asks what the **** is up with that. Again, if you're fine with it, there isn't anything I can type here to change your mind, but EVERY ******* thing I have seen since that day shows me he was out to **** us, and only us. If he'd done ANYTHING with any of these other players who have had similar situations I might not think that, but he hasn't done jack ******* **** to one of them. That my friend is bullshit.

Joe
 
In all seriousness, if Rice is not suspended at least 4 games, Ben should sue the league, and Goodell specifically. Goodell has a DUTY to be consistent.
 
Bro, are you serious?

He was never charged by any legal authority. We all know this! That does not stop people from having opinions or being mad.

We have to admit that during that summer, public opinion of Ben, and the NFL (a league ripe with stories such as these) began to sour. The owners want nothing to sully the potential earning power of the shield, which unfortunately Ben did putting himself in the situation.

The league doesn't care about legality- it cares about $$. Period. Some of you fail to comprehend this basic concept that its a business...

So Ben has a he said/she said, but it is all over TMZ, the league acts prematurely to blow it up and make it worse --- that was the issue. I've read all the evidence.

But Rice is on video, committing an assault, and it doesn't matter because it was his wife and the NFL goes quiet on it? WTF?
 
So Ben has a he said/she said, but it is all over TMZ, the league acts prematurely to blow it up and make it worse --- that was the issue. I've read all the evidence.

But Rice is on video, committing an assault, and it doesn't matter because it was his wife and the NFL goes quiet on it? WTF?

Hell Rooney's should sue as Ben being suspended caused a disruption in the season. But neither will step up and Goodell will keep hen pecking his punishments using grandma's bingo ball machine.
 
I believe that the commissioner dropped the hammer on Roethlisberger because Dan Rooney wanted him to do so. Rooney knew that in a relatively short span of time, Roethlisberger had been involved in a serious motorcycle accident where he was not wearing a helmet, became involved with some loony-tune girl in Reno which resulted in some very bad press, and then had sex with a 20-year old girl in a bathroom of a bar.

That seems like awfully self-destructive behavior. Rooney knew that the Steelers franchise depended on Roethlisberger not being an assclown, and knew that taking a hit in terms of a suspension was worth it, long-term.

Just my take, but that fits with Goodell being so aggressive with Ben, Rooney not complaining at all about the punishment (and in fact basically supporting it), and Goodell then not being anywhere near as aggressive in his punishment of other miscreants.
 
The league has moved on from worrying about guys using drugs/raping girls/dui's/etc. to more important matters. Now if lil Ray had given his girl a concussion when he cold cocked her, that would be newsworthy.

And is it just me, or does anyone else think that Hines should buy some advertising space somewhere on the side of a busy Baltimore highway and and have an image of lil Ray dragging his girl around? Pot meet kettle.
 
I like how Raven fans retort is...."She ended up marrying him, didn't she?"
LOL, of course...take a look at his bank account.
She can put up with a few bruises now and in 2 years can get HALF when she divorces his ***!

I also like how the Ravens trotted the wife out at the presser to apologize for her role in getting knocked the **** out.
Wow...
 
That Ray Rice press conference was perhaps the most uncomfortable dumpster fire of a PC I've ever seen. "When you get knocked down...", uh excuse me Ray? "Failure is not getting knocked down, but not getting up..." Wh-what did he just say? Did he just say that?

Hard to sell me on the idea of contrition when you're reading prepared notes from your I-phone, which keeps going into standby-mode, filling his face-Palmer of a presser with all sorts of awkward pauses. And to top it all off, he apologizes to everyone and their grandmas EXCEPT to his brand-new bride, the person he should have acknowledged FIRST..

Who in the hell is in charge of P.R. At Owens Mills???
 
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Look, I agree with you that the case was kind of BS- but you are being kind of a homer right now.

Ben had two similar incidents in a short time span. Sure the girls may not have "wanted" to be in the public eye, but they never said anything to diffuse the story or speak glowingly of Ben's character. As a result, the media ran on its own limited and sometimes tainted view. Basically, their lack of a statement was a statement in and of itself. Rice's wife was proactive in diffusing the situation which DEFINITELY helped his case with public opinion and eventually the shield.

Not saying BB was guilty at all in either case- but public opinion is huge. After the second incident occur, no matter how contrived it may have been, public opinion began to turn very strongly

A contrived incident did not happen, thus contrived. There may have been something or there may not have been something in either case. The evidence presented at least from what I have seen of it does not sound like it meets anywhere near the burden of proof needed for criminal actions.
 
Bro, are you serious?

He was never charged by any legal authority. We all know this! That does not stop people from having opinions or being mad.

We have to admit that during that summer, public opinion of Ben, and the NFL (a league ripe with stories such as these) began to sour. The owners want nothing to sully the potential earning power of the shield, which unfortunately Ben did putting himself in the situation.

The league doesn't care about legality- it cares about $$. Period. Some of you fail to comprehend this basic concept that its a business...

Says the ******* person who says "she pressed charges"about The DTF girl




Goddamn you talk out of both sides of your mouth
 
That Ray Rice press conference was perhaps the most uncomfortable dumpster fire of a a PC I've ever seen. "When you get knocked down...", uh excuse me Ray? "Failure is not getting knocked down, but not getting up..." Wh-what did he just say? Did he just say that?

Hard to sell me on the idea of contrition when you're reading prepared notes from your I-phone, which keeps going into standby-mode, filling his face-Palmer of a presser with all sorts of awkward pauses. And to top it all off, he apologizes to everyone and their grandmas EXCEPT to his brad-new bride, the person he should have acknowledged FIRST..

Who in the hell is in charge of P.R. At Owens Mills???


I spit my water out when he said that about getting knocked down. And the camera went right to her face. He basically admitted doing it, and the Baltimore Media is all over the fact that he apologized to EVERYONE accept his punching bag. I would think 4 games from the Shield, but expect a $2000 fine and NFL marketing campaign for aggressive behavior staring Rice
 
Rice will get a good suspension. No doubt about it.

The way the NFL has ignored it along the way is absurd.

Ben was just stupid, Rice was criminal. Can't compare the two.
 
I really don't believe Goodell is going to do anything. His inaction strikes me as normal. It makes no sense...and that's his MO.
 
Rice's suspension is going to depend on how much he kissed Goodell's ***.

One of the things I remember from Ben's thing is it was reported somewhere that Goodell complained he had no relationship with Ben. Unlike the one he forged with Vick. Then Ben gets 4 games for ?. Had Ben let Goodell be his Daddy for a while, maybe he doesn't get 4 games.
 
Rice's suspension is going to depend on how much he kissed Goodell's ***.

One of the things I remember from Ben's thing is it was reported somewhere that Goodell complained he had no relationship with Ben. Unlike the one he forged with Vick. Then Ben gets 4 games for ?. Had Ben let Goodell be his Daddy for a while, maybe he doesn't get 4 games.


Ben got a 6-game suspension. Upon good behavior & completion of physic evaluation, reduced to 4 (NOTE: ben couldn't contest or make any noise to defend himself, or he would have had to do all six). You are right though, if Ben would have become "roger's" buddy, may have been different. All this aside, Rice definitely needs to be suspended, but more than likely, won't.


Salute the nation
 
Isn't Rice the same height as our new toy???

Why this thread is only three (3) pages long is a travesty!!!

Pile on...
 
pretty sure the difference is the 174lbs, not the height...but then again, i haven't gotten involved either way
 
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