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Redskins lose their trademark

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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014...ncels-six-trademarks-for-washington-redskins/

Any legal eagles out there wanna tell us how long this crap will drag out?

The United States Trademark Trial and Appeal Board canceled six federal trademarks held by the Washington Redskins involving the team’s name in a landmark ruling issued Wednesday morning.

The 2-1 ruling comes after a campaign to change the name gained momentum over the past year.

The board wrote the following in its opinion: “We decide, based on the evidence properly before us, that these registrations must be cancelled because they were disparaging to Native Americans at the respective times they were registered.”

The cancellations are pending and the Redskins plan to appeal the decision. The ruling does not require the team change its name, but it does make it increasingly difficult enforce any trademark infringement claims against others printing the name on sweatshirts, apparel, or other team material.

“The team will certainly take the position that they still have protectable trademarks,” said Jesse Witten, the lead attorney representing a group of five Native Americans that filed the claim.

The case involves six registered trademarks that involve the use of the word Redskins, but it does not apply to the team’s logo.
“We’ve seen this story before,” Bob Raskopf, trademark attorney for the Redskins said. “And just like last time, today’s ruling will have no effect at all on the team’s ownership of and right to use the Redskins name and logo.”

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Witten is confident that the decision will be upheld on appeal.
“It was a careful decision. The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board wrote a very careful and thoughtful decision. There really can’t be any serious dispute that this is a disparaging term,” said Witten.

However, Raskopf disagrees because the same evidence presented in an earlier ruling favorable to the team was again used in the latest litigation.
“We are confident we will prevail once again, and that the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board’s divided ruling will be overturned on appeal,” Raskopf said. “This case is no different than an earlier case, where the Board cancelled the Redskins’ trademark registrations, and where a federal district court disagreed and reversed the Board.”

The team has not responded to a request for comment.
Redskins owner Dan Snyder has refused to change the team’s name, citing tradition, but there has been growing pressure including statements in recent months from President Barack Obama, lawmakers of both parties and civil rights groups.

“Any name change is going to come because of all the popular attention and concern and pressure that the public is going to bring to bear on this,” said Witten. “I think that the tide has really turned and there is a widespread recognition right now that the team name really is not appropriate. It is an artifact from a much earlier era and it really needs to change.”

He noted that his clients, including Amanda Blackhorse, are “extremely elated” by the ruling.

The decision by the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board is similar to one it issued in 1999. That ruling was overturned in 2003 in large part on a technicality because the courts decided that the plaintiffs were too old.

The new case was launched in 2006 by a younger group of Native Americans. A hearing was held in March 2013.

“The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board agreed with our clients that the team’s name and trademarks disparage Native Americans. The Board ruled that the Trademark Office should never have registered these trademarks in the first place,” said Witten. “We presented a wide variety of evidence – including dictionary definitions and other reference works, newspaper clippings, movie clips, scholarly articles, expert linguist testimony, and evidence of the historic opposition by Native American groups – to demonstrate that the word ‘redskin’ is an ethnic slur. This victory was a long time coming and reflects the hard work of many attorneys at our firm.”

In Washington, lawmakers who have pushed for a name change applauded the decision. In May, half of the Senate wrote letters to the NFL urging the team to change its name.

Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who has been one of the most vocal critics of the name on Capitol Hill, spoke bluntly on the Senate floor.
“The writing is on the wall. It’s on the wall in giant blinking neon lights,” Reid said. “The name will change and justice will be done for the tribes in Nevada and across the nation who care so deeply about this issue.”

Oneida Indian Nation representative Ray Halbritter and National Congress of American Indians Executive Director Jackie Pata also praised the decision.

“The U.S. Patent Office has now restated the obvious truth that Native Americans, civil rights leaders, athletes, religious groups, state legislative bodies, Members of Congress and the president have all echoed: taxpayer resources cannot be used to help private companies profit off the promotion of dictionary defined racial slurs,” the groups said in a joint statement. “If the most basic sense of morality, decency and civility has not yet convinced the Washington team and the NFL to stop using this hateful slur, then hopefully today’s patent ruling will, if only because it imperils the ability of the team’s billionaire owner to keep profiting off the denigration and dehumanization of Native Americans.”

Redskins Statement on Ruling
“We’ve seen this story before. And just like last time, today’s ruling will have no effect at all on the team’s ownership of and right to use the Redskins name and logo.
We are confident we will prevail once again, and that the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board’s divided ruling will be overturned on appeal. This case is no different than an earlier case, where the Board cancelled the Redskins’ trademark registrations, and where a federal district court disagreed and reversed the Board.
As today’s dissenting opinion correctly states, “the same evidence previously found insufficient to support cancellation” here “remains insufficient” and does not support cancellation.

This ruling – which of course we will appeal – simply addresses the team’s federal trademark registrations, and the team will continue to own and be able to protect its marks without the registrations. The registrations will remain effective while the case is on appeal.
When the case first arose more than 20 years ago, a federal judge in the District of Columbia ruled on appeal in favor of the Washington Redskins and their trademark registrations.

Why?
As the district court’s ruling made clear in 2003, the evidence ‘is insufficient to conclude that during the relevant time periods the trademark at issue disparaged Native Americans…’ The court continued, ‘The Court concludes that the [Board’s] finding that the marks at issue ‘may disparage’ Native Americans is unsupported by substantial evidence, is logically flawed, and fails to apply the correct legal standard to its own findings of fact.’ Those aren’t my words. That was the court’s conclusion. We are confident that when a district court review’s today’s split decision, it will reach a similar conclusion.
In today’s ruling, the Board’s Marc Bergsman agreed, concluding in his dissenting opinion:

It is astounding that the petitioners did not submit any evidence regarding the Native American population during the relevant time frame, nor did they introduce any evidence or argument as to what comprises a substantial composite of that population thereby leaving it to the majority to make petitioner’s case have some semblance of meaning.

The evidence in the current claim is virtually identical to the evidence a federal judge decided was insufficient more than ten years ago. We expect the same ultimate outcome here.”
 

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I still like idea of honoring congress with changing the name to the Washington Foreskins.
 

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So, are the Chicago Blackhawks and Atlanta Braves also losing their trademarks? How about the Kansas City Chiefs? Cincinnati Reds? Cleveland Indians?

******* bullshit.
 

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this PC stuff is getting out of hand ..
 

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The marketplace would have eventually forced this change, I think, but we need Big Brother to do it.
 

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So, are the Chicago Blackhawks and Atlanta Braves also losing their trademarks? How about the Kansas City Chiefs? Cincinnati Reds? Cleveland Indians?

******* bullshit.

How is the name of Native American tribes (Braves, Blackhawks), the same as a Native American slur?
 

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They ain't changin' nuthin,
I read this part and it convinced me...them lawyers tried the same exact thing in '03 and got their dick stuck in the dirt.

Some inside details.....

The case involves six registered trademarks that involve the use of the word Redskins, but it does not apply to the team’s logo.
“We’ve seen this story before,” Bob Raskopf, trademark attorney for the Redskins said. “And just like last time, today’s ruling will have no effect at all on the team’s ownership of and right to use the Redskins name and logo.”

Redskins Statement on Ruling
“We’ve seen this story before. And just like last time, today’s ruling will have no effect at all on the team’s ownership of and right to use the Redskins name and logo.
We are confident we will prevail once again, and that the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board’s divided ruling will be overturned on appeal. This case is no different than an earlier case, where the Board cancelled the Redskins’ trademark registrations, and where a federal district court disagreed and reversed the Board.
As today’s dissenting opinion correctly states, “the same evidence previously found insufficient to support cancellation” here “remains insufficient” and does not support cancellation.

This ruling – which of course we will appeal – simply addresses the team’s federal trademark registrations, and the team will continue to own and be able to protect its marks without the registrations. The registrations will remain effective while the case is on appeal.
When the case first arose more than 20 years ago, a federal judge in the District of Columbia ruled on appeal in favor of the Washington Redskins and their trademark registrations.

Why?
As the district court’s ruling made clear in 2003, the evidence ‘is insufficient to conclude that during the relevant time periods the trademark at issue disparaged Native Americans…’ The court continued, ‘The Court concludes that the [Board’s] finding that the marks at issue ‘may disparage’ Native Americans is unsupported by substantial evidence, is logically flawed, and fails to apply the correct legal standard to its own findings of fact.’ Those aren’t my words. That was the court’s conclusion. We are confident that when a district court review’s today’s split decision, it will reach a similar conclusion.
In today’s ruling, the Board’s Marc Bergsman agreed, concluding in his dissenting opinion:

It is astounding that the petitioners did not submit any evidence regarding the Native American population during the relevant time frame, nor did they introduce any evidence or argument as to what comprises a substantial composite of that population thereby leaving it to the majority to make petitioner’s case have some semblance of meaning.

The evidence in the current claim is virtually identical to the evidence a federal judge decided was insufficient more than ten years ago. We expect the same ultimate outcome here.”
 
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How is the name of Native American tribes (Braves, Blackhawks), the same as a Native American slur?

It's not a slur, it's bullshit PC propaganda. There's nothing negative about it, everyone today is too soft anyway. The team has had the trademark since 1967, funny how it's only been recently that the name has caused any issues...
 

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It's not a slur, it's bullshit PC propaganda. There's nothing negative about it, everyone today is too soft anyway. The team has had the trademark since 1967, funny how it's only been recently that the name has caused any issues...

I've become annoyed with members of the media who used the name Redskins for years and then all of a sudden said that they wouldn't use it because it is derogatory.
 

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This is total bull **** and a dangerous precedent. How many other names will this happen to? Can't use: Saints, Giants, Seminoles, Vikings, Raiders, Cowboys, Pirates, etc., etc., etc............they all could be offensive to someone, somewhere, somehow. How about putting skates on a penguin. Isn't that offensive to animal lovers? Can't use that name either.
 

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This is total bull **** and a dangerous precedent. How many other names will this happen to? Can't use: Saints, Giants, Seminoles, Vikings, Raiders, Cowboys, Pirates, etc., etc., etc............they all could be offensive to someone, somewhere, somehow. How about putting skates on a penguin. Isn't that offensive to animal lovers? Can't use that name either.

I don't see any slurs in that list. Pirates? Really? Cap'n Crunch is a dead man! There is pressure but they can't force anything...lost trademark that nobody can use anyway.
 
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Why is their name just now a problem?????????
 

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If it IS a problem, the free market would have fixed it.
 

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If it IS a problem, the free market would have fixed it.

Money is the ONLY thing that speaks to Snyder. If his pocketbook is hurt..yeah, sure...something could happen....but the problem is not likely to be reflected monetarily.
 

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Interesting thought. In Jefferson's time Thomas not George, the us supreme court ruled in favor of the Cherokee tribe or nation regarding land in Virginia. The president made the comment the supreme court had an opinion he had an army and sent them to attack the native Americans that won in court and drove them from their land. Maybe it would only be fair to give it all back now and relocate everyone else that is there. They could also return all the property taxes wrongfully collected over the last several decades.
 

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Money is the ONLY thing that speaks to Snyder. If his pocketbook is hurt..yeah, sure...something could happen....but the problem is not likely to be reflected monetarily.

It, easily, could have under some scenarios. If no one wanted to pay millions to have their name on the stadium, pay for advertising in the stadium, pay for advertising during their games....once a few pulled out, it would, likely, have cascaded.

Thankfully, we have Big Brother to save us from all of that.
 

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So, if I read this correctly, others can now use these six trademarks to make money, not just Dan Snyder. How does that correct the supposed problem. I think Snyder Is an ***, but how obvious is it that they are just trying to shove a big dick up his *** for standing his ground?
 

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It is just another of the many unintended consequences of the present government. The coal miners are just now finding out that they are going to screw them the way Carter and friends killed the steel industry. We have the rust belt next we will have the soot belt.
 

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Names like Chiefs and Braves are more or less the same as Kings or Knights, just specific to Native American culture. Its a stretch to call those types of names racist.

Tribal names like the Blackhawks are viewed by some Native Americans as racist but many tribes have signed off on teams (mostly NCAA etc) using them.

Cleveland Indians i guess is marginally racist but mostly its just stupid; Indians are from India so they should change their mascot to a dude with a dot on his foerhead!

The Cincinnatti Reds were originally called the red stockings, the name has nothing to do with race.

I think if they were called the Washington Blackies or the DC Yellowslants the name would have been changed years ago. I dont think Redskins is as bad as those two names but because it is our nation's capital and we do live in political correct/hypersensitive era, i believe its only a matter of time until they do change the name.

They could go for The Washington Warriors and pretty much leave the logo unchanged although my personal favorite would be the Washington Foreskins (been calling them that for years). They could use Joe Thiesmans face with a giant uncircumcised penis slapped across it (roman helmut style) as their logo . . .
 

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There is a ton of age discrimination in this league. I don't see many 50yos playing. That **** has to stop.
 
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