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Scoop: PresidentTrump is pulling U.S. out of Paris climate deal

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President Trump has made his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, according to two sources with direct knowledge of the decision. Details on how the withdrawal will be executed are being worked out by a small team including EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt. They're deciding on whether to initiate a full, formal withdrawal — which could take 3 years — or exit the underlying United Nations climate change treaty, which would be faster but more extreme.

Pulling out of Paris is the biggest thing Trump could do to unravel Obama's climate legacy. It sends a combative signal to the rest of the world that America doesn't prioritize climate change and threatens to unravel the ambition of the entire deal.

A letter from 22 Republican Senators (including Mitch McConnell) that called for a clean exit had reinforced Trump's instincts to withdraw, and the president had been telling confidants over the past week that he was going to pull out.

https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-is-pulling-u-s-out-of-paris-climate-deal-2427773025.html

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Riots?
 
Thank you President Trump!


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Chicken-little alarmists are having conniptions? Perfect


We Owe it to the Poor to Exit the Paris Climate Treaty

The scientific godfather of modern global warming alarmism, James Hansen, has called the Paris Climate Agreement “a fraud really, a fake …. It’s just worthless words.”

What Dr. Hansen is referring to is that the agreement is so weak, that it amounts to all pain for no climate gain.

So why shouldn’t the U.S. remain in the Agreement, and help make it stronger?

Because the more effective it is, the more painful it will be.

Right now, the Agreement is just feel-good rhetoric, giving the illusion that we are “doing something” about climate change. But even if you believe climate change is (1) a serious threat, and (2) entirely the fault of humans, we have a problem in fixing it.

Human health and prosperity depend upon access to affordable energy. Unfortunately, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), and its 2015 Paris Climate Treaty, will hurt the human condition by making that energy much more expensive.

The push to reduce carbon dioxide emissions isn’t like installing scrubbers on smokestacks at coal-fired power plants. The only practical way to reduce CO2 emissions on a large scale is to not burn fossil fuels. Period.

I frankly don’t care where our energy comes from as long as the source is abundant and affordable. To me, that is the only moral position one can take on the subject after examining the science and economics of the matter.

There are six main issues guiding my position.

1) Warming over the last 50 years or so has averaged only about half of what computerized climate models can explain. Yet, those models are the basis for the Paris Agreement.

2) It is not obvious that recent warming is entirely the fault of our CO2 emissions. It is very possible that temperatures during the Medieval Warm Period were just as warm as today. Natural climate change exists. If we didn’t cause it, we can’t fix it.

3) Even if future warming increases to match the models, and all nations abide by the Paris commitments, we will avert only 0.3 deg. F warming by the year 2100. That’s less than 0.04 deg. F per decade, which is unmeasurable by current global temperature monitoring networks (satellites, surface thermometers, and weather balloons).

4) The cost of this unmeasurable impact on future global temperatures is variously estimated to be around $1 Trillion per year, primarily spent by the U.S. and a few other countries which drive global prosperity. As usual, the poor will be the hardest hit. That money could have been spent on clean water and providing electricity to the 1+ billion humans who still don’t have electricity.

5) China and India, which are burning coal like there is no tomorrow, don’t really have to do anything under the Agreement until 2030. It’s mainly up to the U.S. to cut our emissions, and send our wealth to poor countries where dictators will continue to enrich themselves.

6) Increasing CO2 levels have benefits, such as increased crop productivity and ‘global greening’. Life on Earth requires CO2, and over the last 60 years we have been monitoring its levels in the atmosphere, Mother Nature has been gobbling up 50% of what we emit to create even more life.

“But shouldn’t we do something, just in case?” you ask. Well, yes, we already are doing something.

Energy efficiency continues to increase every year, driven more by competition than by government regulation. New energy technologies (e.g. fracking, safer nuclear, renewables) will continue to be researched and developed because abundant, affordable energy is required by all.

The U.S. should exit the UNFCCC, which will automatically remove us from the Paris Agreement. Or, at least submit the Agreement to the Senate for ratification, since it is actually a treaty.

So don’t believe Leonardo DiCaprio, Al Gore, the Pope, and others who claim we owe it to the Poor to remain in the Paris Agreement.

The truth is, we owe it to the poor to get out.

https://townhall.com/columnists/royspencer/2017/05/30/draft-n2333378

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Thing is, Trump and most Republicans know that we're the only country who will abide by it. The others won't do their fair share. Kinda like NATO.
 
Angela Merkel will be shaking her stubby little finger at Trump, while her own country descends into a 3rd world shithole. The Europeans really have this thing figured out.
 
Oh, bullshit, the climate data prove conclusively that the environment is warming and will kill us all. You Repugnicans need to learn to read a graph:

to:2017


Never mind ...
 
Well, now it's settled. In addition to everything else that is officially Trump's fault, the next 100 years of climate changes will be his fault for pulling out of this deal.

How convenient for the libtards...
 
Oh, bullshit, the climate data prove conclusively that the environment is warming and will kill us all. You Repugnicans need to learn to read a graph:

to:2017


Never mind ...

What Repugnicans need to learn is that the hadcrut dataset is limited in the locations it covers. It's also non interpolated so NO adjustments are made for those limitations. That's why hadcrut is used in ensemble with other data sets.

I've explained this to you before, but either you are too dense to grasp it, or too biased to be honest.

Here is what the warming trend really looks like.

compare_obs_2016.png


2016 hottest year on record.
 
What Repugnicans need to learn is that the hadcrut dataset is limited in the locations it covers. It's also non interpolated so NO adjustments are made for those limitations. That's why hadcrut is used in ensemble with other data sets.

I've explained this to you before, but either you are too dense to grasp it, or too biased to be honest.

Here is what the warming trend really looks like.

compare_obs_2016.png


2016 hottest year on record.

You are also cherry picking a 20 year time span to boost your case when climate research uses 30 year windows to get a better average as this mathematically smooths the natural variability of the earth's climate system: el nino/la nina, the PDO, volcanoes, etc.

Again I've schooled you on this as well, but you continue your jackassery to try and impress the ignorant here.
 
Good for Trump. The Paris Agreement is horseshit drafted up by Chicken Little libtards. Now we can call it what it really is: the weather.

MUH LEGACY!!!!!!!!!!
 
What Repugnicans need to learn is that the hadcrut dataset is limited in the locations it covers. It's also non interpolated so NO adjustments are made for those limitations. That's why hadcrut is used in ensemble with other data sets.

I've explained this to you before, but either you are too dense to grasp it, or too biased to be honest.

Here is what the warming trend really looks like.

compare_obs_2016.png


2016 hottest year on record.

It's also very convenient these graphs start in the late 1800's, when the world was experiencing one of it's greatest cool downs. Even back in the 1600's and 1700's the graph above would show data that is above zero. But the scientists that want to skew the narrative don't want to show you that. That graph wouldn't be as dire looking if we all knew back in the late Middle Ages things were warmer than in the late 1800's. That would prove ups and downs are normal even over centuries.

The world is warming. Man has contributed to that (how much is uncertain). But the sky is not falling. The world is not going to drastically change because of it. And certainly not in catastrophic events or ways people can't adapt to.

The truth is when it comes to weather, it is much more effective to be prepared for weather events rather than try to "control" the weather. That is a historic fact for the history of our species.

Anyone that thinks we can "stop" global warming is just kidding themselves. And anyone that thinks the world powers spending trillions of dollars in the process is actually going to matter in the end is also kidding themselves.

To me global warming is inevitable. People are going to have to adapt. And the trillions of dollars would be better suited preparing for that inevitability rather than this crazy distribution of wealth idea to fund cleaner, less available, more expensive energy for rising economies.
 
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Oh well, that was fun while it lasted.

Musk has emerged as the Trump White House's go-to tech industry executive.

Elon Musk threatens to leave White House councils over Paris deal
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/31/elon-musk-trump-paris-climate-pact-238990?cmpid=sf

Tesla CEO Elon Musk said Wednesday that if President Donald Trump follows through on pulling the U.S. out of the Paris climate-change agreement, he'd "have no choice" but to stop advising the White House.

Musk's line in the sand is the latest sign of tension between Trump and Silicon Valley just as his administration attempts to attract tech executives to the White House for a sweeping, high-profile summit on June 19.

"Don't know which way Paris will go, but I've done all I can to advise directly to POTUS, through others in WH & via councils, that we remain," Musk tweeted. Musk followed up with a tweet saying, "Will have no choice but to depart councils" if Trump pulls out of the Paris deal backed by nearly 200 other countries.
 
Oh well, that was fun while it lasted.

Musk has emerged as the Trump White House's go-to tech industry executive.

Elon Musk threatens to leave White House councils over Paris deal
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/31/elon-musk-trump-paris-climate-pact-238990?cmpid=sf

Gee that's strange. I wonder why a green company that makes battery powered cars and also recently bought SolarCity, an alternative energy company that is run by two cousins of Tesla CEO Elon Musk would object to leaving the Paris Climate accord ? It wouldn't be about money would it Tibs ?

Uh Oh...Tesla's stock fell nearly 5% Monday and shares are now down more than 10% since the company reported its latest financial results last week. Tamberrino lowered his price target only slightly, from $190 to $185. As usual, just follow the money and motives become evident.
 
It's also very convenient these graphs start in the late 1800's, when the world was experiencing one of it's greatest cool downs. Even back in the 1600's and 1700's the graph above would show data that is above zero. But the scientists that want to skew the narrative don't want to show you that. That graph wouldn't be as dire looking if we all knew back in the late Middle Ages things were warmer than in the late 1800's. That would prove ups and downs are normal even over centuries.

The world is warming. Man has contributed to that (how much is uncertain). But the sky is not falling. The world is not going to drastically change because of it. And certainly not in catastrophic events or ways people can't adapt to.

The truth is when it comes to weather, it is much more effective to be prepared for weather events rather than try to "control" the weather. That is a historic fact for the history of our species.

Anyone that thinks we can "stop" global warming is just kidding themselves. And anyone that thinks the world powers spending trillions of dollars in the process is actually going to matter in the end is also kidding themselves.

To me global warming is inevitable. People are going to have to adapt. And the trillions of dollars would be better suited preparing for that inevitability rather than this crazy distribution of wealth idea to fund cleaner, less available, more expensive energy for rising economies.

Oh Jesus......the arrogance that it takes to argue with a large group of some of the brightest minds on the planet...to say they are wrong when you are clueless when it comes to climate science.

The Medieval warming was localized so......................never mind, it's like bringing roses to the fish market.....pointless.
 
Oh Jesus......the arrogance that it takes to argue with a large group of some of the brightest minds on the planet...to say they are wrong when you are clueless when it comes to climate science.

The Medieval warming was localized so......................never mind, it's like bringing roses to the fish market.....pointless.

Oh and climate is not weather..........why? It has to be our education system, has to be...God help us.
 
Oh and climate is not weather..........why? It has to be our education system, has to be...God help us.
Weather is climate when it aligns with the warmist premise, and it isn't when it doesn't.
 
President Trump has made his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, according to two sources with direct knowledge of the decision. Details on how the withdrawal will be executed are being worked out by a small team including EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt. They're deciding on whether to initiate a full, formal withdrawal — which could take 3 years — or exit the underlying United Nations climate change treaty, which would be faster but more extreme.

Pulling out of Paris is the biggest thing Trump could do to unravel Obama's climate legacy. It sends a combative signal to the rest of the world that America doesn't prioritize climate change and threatens to unravel the ambition of the entire deal.

A letter from 22 Republican Senators (including Mitch McConnell) that called for a clean exit had reinforced Trump's instincts to withdraw, and the president had been telling confidants over the past week that he was going to pull out.

https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-is-pulling-u-s-out-of-paris-climate-deal-2427773025.html

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Riots?

One scoop or two?
 
5) China and India, which are burning coal like there is no tomorrow, don’t really have to do anything under the Agreement until 2030. It’s mainly up to the U.S. to cut our emissions, and send our wealth to poor countries where dictators will to enrich themselves.

All you need to know.
 
Gee that's strange. I wonder why a green company that makes battery powered cars and also recently bought SolarCity, an alternative energy company that is run by two cousins of Tesla CEO Elon Musk would object to leaving the Paris Climate accord ? It wouldn't be about money would it Tibs ?

Uh Oh...Tesla's stock fell nearly 5% Monday and shares are now down more than 10% since the company reported its latest financial results last week. Tamberrino lowered his price target only slightly, from $190 to $185. As usual, just follow the money and motives become evident.

Musk is in Cali so obviously his friends and neighbors got to him. No great loss, he's only the biggest welfare recipient in the country.
 
China and India, which are burning coal like there is no tomorrow, don’t really have to do anything under the Agreement until 2030. It’s mainly up to the U.S. to cut our emissions, and send our wealth to poor countries where dictators will to enrich themselves.

Well gee, I thought we were supposed to be extinct by then. If it's such a dire problem why aren't we demanding that everyone just slash emissions to bare bones levels right now? I mean, this is about the apocalypse, right? Why no greater sense of urgency?

Because it isn't, and they know it.
 
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