So here's how it's looking now...

[topseed]

I love how you disappear for months, you should just stay away.

I never claimed that Luck was playing great football, but he has one of THE WORST OL in the league. Worse than the worst line Ben has played behind. They have no running game to speak of, their WR's are weak, and their D has more holes than swiss cheese. Since drafting Luck, the only reason they even make it INTO the playoffs is because they are undefeated within their own division, their very weak, pathetic division. When the GM goes out and signs not one, but TWO over the hill FA's to fill prominent roles on the team, when they claim to have Super Bowl aspirations, is absolutely pathetic. They don't draft well, they make horrible trades, their FA signings are a joke, their owner is in the news more for his actions and outlandish quotes...if you didn't know we were talking about the Colts, you'd claim I was talking about the Redskins or the Cowboys.

You obviously don't know much about the Colts (or really football in general) as I'm not "blaming everyone else". I'm simply pointing out how bad the team is, this has nothing to do with how badly Luck was playing. This is simply pointing out that they have done nothing to help him out either. The year they drafted luck, they drafted well. In the three years following that draft, it's a who's who of who?!?! Nothing has panned out, no one has stepped up. Their FA signings are the definition of journeymen or over the hill former stars.

The Colts are not a good team, the AFC south doesn't have ANY good teams, it's why the 5th seed will be so desirable for the Wild Card teams.

Two posts in a row and you try to use the same joke twice. I gave FOOTBALL answers as to why we lost the games we lost, the decisions that Tomlin made that ACTUALLY directly lead to a loss, my arguments make plenty of sense to anyone with an ounce of intelligence, something you clearly do not have. You're so negative and biased AGAINST Tomlin, you have no true arguments. You use insults and "I'm better than you" attitude to try and win arguments.

Been here all season, chief.

YOU are the clown who referred to Andrew Luck as a "franchise" quarterback, and went on to explain how bad the Colts and their "90 year old" backup quarterback are. You're not blaming everyone else? Really? Well, sorry, I must have misread YOUR quote, "I'd be blaming their GM for the team he has assembled around Luck..." I simply pointed out that somehow this supposedly horrendous team has assembled a 4-1 record with the "90 year old" guy, and yet the same players are 2-5 with Luck starting. Isn't Hasselbeck playing behind the same offensive line, with no running game, with weak wide receivers, and a swiss-cheese D? Then why, smart boy, does this "90 year old" have such a better record as a starter? Luck IS playing poorly...that's why this AVERAGE team has been much WORSE with him in there. It's really not all that hard to figure out.

You've attempted in vain to directly berate my intelligence in multiple posts now...but I'm the only one using insults? Here's another one for you: You don't know **** about football, AND you're a ******* hypocrite.

 

[insaniti]

Been here all season, chief.

YOU are the clown who referred to Andrew Luck as a "franchise" quarterback, and went on to explain how bad the Colts and their "90 year old" backup quarterback are. You're not blaming everyone else? Really? Well, sorry, I must have misread YOUR quote, "I'd be blaming their GM for the team he has assembled around Luck..." I simply pointed out that somehow this supposedly horrendous team has assembled a 4-1 record with the "90 year old" guy, and yet the same players are 2-5 with Luck starting. Isn't Hasselbeck playing behind the same offensive line, with no running game, with weak wide receivers, and a swiss-cheese D? Then why, smart boy, does this "90 year old" have such a better record as a starter? Luck IS playing poorly...that's why this AVERAGE team has been much WORSE with him in there. It's really not all that hard to figure out.

You've attempted in vain to directly berate my intelligence in multiple posts now...but I'm the only one using insults? Here's another one for you: You don't know **** about football, AND you're a ******* hypocrite.

You're a troll...

My last and final response to you. Why might the Colts be 4-1 with Hasselback, it couldn't possibly be the fact that he's played different teams now could it? Nope, all teams must be equal in this scenario...because Luck has never shown any ability what so ever since drafted number one over all. And yes I did say that Luck is a franchise quarterback, are you going to somehow argue that point? He had a rough start, but he's also put together some pretty solid games against some of the AFC's toughest teams, they beat the Broncos and made a game out of the Patriots meeting. They just aren't giving Luck much help, they aren't surrounding him with the right talent.

For example, their solution to their RB position? First they traded away a first round pick for Trent Richardson, we all know how that turned out. Then they still didn't turn to the draft to find someone, no they signed an over the hill Frank Gore, and Ahmad Bradshaw (who hasn't finished the year NOT on IR in who knows how long). They needed more help in the WR dept, TY Hilton is all they have, so what do they do? They let old man Reggie Wayne go, and sign old man Andre Johnson.

They have missed on just about every OL pick they've tried, they even signed AQ Shipley.

So yes, I'll stick to my "I'd be blaming the GM for the team he has assembled around Luck" statement that was in direct response to how THIS board would react to Chuck Pagano.

I'll also stick to my "the Colts are a bad team" because they really are. They have a few talented players at certain positions, but as a team they suck and they suck hard. But you go ahead and hang your hat on Hasselbacks impressive wins against the bottom feeders Jaguars and Texans, a spiraling downward Falcons team, and a rookie lead Buccs team. What happened when the Hasselback lead Colts faced a real playoff team? They got ******* smoked

 

[Drink IRON City]

Weather the colts are a good or and average or a crappy team is irrelevent at this time. They are a "W" for ther PITTSBURGH STEELERS and that is what is important. If Luck was QBing the colts into the steelers game, near same outcome, STEAMROLL.......




Salute the nation

 

[spencelisberger13]

Ginger hurt and the division can still be ours if he is out for an extended period of time.
Jets hopefully lose to Brady and the Cheatriots!!!
Looks like Chiefs have a really easy schedule the rest of the season.
Bills will lost either 2 of next 3 or 1 of next 3 so all we have to do is win out and YES our playoffs started today and it showed. We were focused and the intensity on defense showed. Did you guys see where I think Allen #20 blew up the O-lineman and #92 Mr. Deebo did the same on that Robert Golden int in the 2nd half.
Bengals were given a heavy dose of reality today by the Hooligans from the Burgh in the black&yellow(gold).....

 

[steelcan58]

Ginger hurt and the division can still be ours if he is out for an extended period of time.
Jets hopefully lose to Brady and the Cheatriots!!!
Looks like Chiefs have a really easy schedule the rest of the season.
Bills will lost either 2 of next 3 or 1 of next 3 so all we have to do is win out and YES our playoffs started today and it showed. We were focused and the intensity on defense showed. Did you guys see where I think Allen #20 blew up the O-lineman and #92 Mr. Deebo did the same on that Robert Golden int in the 2nd half.
Bengals were given a heavy dose of reality today by the Hooligans from the Burgh in the black&yellow(gold).....

I would not put it past Belliheat to lay down to the jets if NE does not need the game. Hopefully they do.

 

[spencelisberger13]

I think Belicheat knows his schemes work better against us better than they do against the Jets....didn't the jets beat them in the playoffs recently in an upset bid?
And I do believe if the Steelers meet the Cheatriots in the playoffs it will come down to the final possession. Unless this team comes out hitting like they did today against Cincy I can see them knocking out Gronk, Edelman and Amendola before the final whistle blows all on concussion protocols alone. That's my crazy prediction and I am sticking to it....
One can dream cant' they

 

[topseed]

You're a troll...

My last and final response to you. Why might the Colts be 4-1 with Hasselback, it couldn't possibly be the fact that he's played different teams now could it? Nope, all teams must be equal in this scenario...because Luck has never shown any ability what so ever since drafted number one over all. And yes I did say that Luck is a franchise quarterback, are you going to somehow argue that point? He had a rough start, but he's also put together some pretty solid games against some of the AFC's toughest teams, they beat the Broncos and made a game out of the Patriots meeting. They just aren't giving Luck much help, they aren't surrounding him with the right talent.

For example, their solution to their RB position? First they traded away a first round pick for Trent Richardson, we all know how that turned out. Then they still didn't turn to the draft to find someone, no they signed an over the hill Frank Gore, and Ahmad Bradshaw (who hasn't finished the year NOT on IR in who knows how long). They needed more help in the WR dept, TY Hilton is all they have, so what do they do? They let old man Reggie Wayne go, and sign old man Andre Johnson.

They have missed on just about every OL pick they've tried, they even signed AQ Shipley.

No, I'm not going to try and argue that Andrew Luck isn't a franchise quarterback. I'm arguing that he isn't playing like one this season. Why, yes, Luck beat the Broncos for one of his two wins...and he also lost at home to the Saints, one of the worst defensive teams in recent memory. He's thrown 12 interceptions in 7 games. He's got one of the worse passer ratings in the entire league. Without "much help," his "90 year old" backup has managed 4 wins, 2 against top ten pass defenses. Whether you'd care to admit it or not, Luck's simply having a bad year.

And, I'm no Mel Kiper Jr., but I'm pretty sure they tried to address the WR department by drafting one in the first round this year. It's a little early to call Phillip Dorsett a bust.

So yes, I'll stick to my "I'd be blaming the GM for the team he has assembled around Luck" statement that was in direct response to how THIS board would react to Chuck Pagano.

OK. You stick with that statement. You've somehow actually convinced yourself that it means you're NOT blaming everyone else but Luck. Amazing.

I'll also stick to my "the Colts are a bad team" because they really are. They have a few talented players at certain positions, but as a team they suck and they suck hard. But you go ahead and hang your hat on Hasselbacks impressive wins against the bottom feeders Jaguars and Texans, a spiraling downward Falcons team, and a rookie lead Buccs team. What happened when the Hasselback lead Colts faced a real playoff team? They got ******* smoked

I'm sure you were on the verge of creaming your jeans as the Jags poured it on today...good for you, sweetie. Maybe the Colts are indeed a bad team with their second- and third-string QBs in the game. Good thing the Steelers were able to smoke them. Although, for the sake of accuracy, the Steelers are not a "real playoff team," just yet.

 

[Stoney]

Could swear I heard some weasel on NFL Network say if both the Steelers and Jets win out, the Steelers would get in over the Jets if both are 11-5? Is this because all of our remaining games are within the AFC? Why are they ahead of us now?

 

[madinsomniac]

Could swear I heard some weasel on NFL Network say if both the Steelers and Jets win out, the Steelers would get in over the Jets if both are 11-5? Is this because all of our remaining games are within the AFC? Why are they ahead of us now?

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two wild-card teams from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1. If the tied teams are from the same division, apply division tiebreaker.
2. If the tied teams are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two teams
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. <---- Right now they are 6-4 and we are 5-4. they play Dallas next week.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four. <------ we have them beat in this tiebreaker
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.




----so basically they are ahead on the technicality that we have played fewer AFC teams right now

 

[Steelz]

I would not put it past Belliheat to lay down to the jets if NE does not need the game. Hopefully they do.

I said the same thing, but we really need the Jets to lose at least 1 if we don't win out. And if the Jets beat N.E. they may win out themselves. We really need to keep this playoff right now mentality we got going.

 

[LeXX75]

We might as well face this now, our playoff chances look kinda bleak. Why? By beating the Broncos next week and beating the Bengals this weak and leaving the them vulnerable without Dalton, it's looking like the Pats-Jets game may very well be meaningless for the Pats. I think the Steelers are in a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation.

Have u read anything in this thread or done any research or u just doing a Tomlin and going off your gut...if we win out we are in...dont care about the Jets ...dont care about the Pats...win and in pretty simple math there..there is no damned if they do damned if they dont...if they do they are in ..make sense? Now if you wanna say u dont see them winning out and they will need help from the Pats as a speculation ..sure go for it...we have 2 teams the last 2 weeks that we should beat no question...but this has never been a strong point under Tomlin especially on the road

 

[SteelerSask2]

I said the same thing, but we really need the Jets to lose at least 1 if we don't win out. And if the Jets beat N.E. they may win out themselves. We really need to keep this playoff right now mentality we got going.

But my question is the same as it has been since the Seattle loss. If the Steelers lose one more and the Jets lose to the Pats, who is in?

 

[Steelz]

But my question is the same as it has been since the Seattle loss. If the Steelers lose one more and the Jets lose to the Pats, who is in?

We are, because we'll have 2 more afc games remaining and if we win those we'll have conference record advantage (i think). But I do know we'll be ahead winning out if we lose Denver and they lose N.E. and win out.

 

[Steelz]

Something else that may get interesting, if we beat the Bronco's, and they can very well lose the following week to the Bengals, that'd put them at 5 loses with us holding the tie breaker with head to head wins, and if the Chiefs win the division they can completely get knocked out the playoff race altogether. Could get interesting..

 

[Steel G]

But my question is the same as it has been since the Seattle loss. If the Steelers lose one more and the Jets lose to the Pats, who is in?

Doesn't matter if the Jets lose to the Pats* or the Bills, they just need to lose to one more AFC team. If that happens, and the Steelers are also 10-6, the Steelers beat them in the tiebreaker. But if the Jets beat both and lose to the Cowboys, and the Steelers are also 10-6, the Jets are in.

 

[Troglodyte]

Have u read anything in this thread or done any research or u just doing a Tomlin and going off your gut...if we win out we are in...dont care about the Jets ...dont care about the Pats...win and in pretty simple math there..there is no damned if they do damned if they dont...if they do they are in ..make sense? Now if you wanna say u dont see them winning out and they will need help from the Pats as a speculation ..sure go for it...we have 2 teams the last 2 weeks that we should beat no question...but this has never been a strong point under Tomlin especially on the road

Right, I deleted my post soon after I posted it as with all the talk of the Pats possibly losing to the Jets, I momentarily forgot it doesn't matter if we win out. The other confusing thing is the Jets are ahead of us in the "if the playoffs started today" picture. Its counter intuitive that they can finish with the same record and we will leap-frog them. I wonder how many Jets fans are aware of that?

 

[SteelerSask2]

We are, because we'll have 2 more afc games remaining and if we win those we'll have conference record advantage (i think). But I do know we'll be ahead winning out if we lose Denver and they lose N.E. and win out.

I feel like if the Steeelrs beat the Broncos, they are in an excellent position with all kind of possibilities the following week to put them in the drivers seat, be it Denver losing or Cincinnati losing and the Jets losing to the PAts

 

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

Most likely scenario?

NE 1 bye
DEN 2 bye

KC at AFC South winner
Pitt vs Cin

Although, if the Steelers win out and take the division, I don't know between Cin and NYJ for tiebreaker.

 

[oicu8ad]

We have to root for the Cowboys (vs Jets) and Ravens (vs KC) next weekend. That is enough to make you puke.

 

[Hines57]

We have to root for the Cowboys (vs Jets) and Ravens (vs KC) next weekend. That is enough to make you puke.

KC has a very realistic chance to win out. SD and the Raiders the week before gave games away to them.

We know the Jets aren't winning out with their schedule. We just need to take care of our business and we're in.

 

[SteelerAl]

KC has a very realistic chance to win out. SD and the Raiders the week before gave games away to them.

We know the Jets aren't winning out with their schedule. We just need to take care of our business and we're in.

KC could win the AFC West, pushing the Broncos into the Wild Card race. If KC wins out and ends up 11-5, the Broncos can easily lose 2 of 3 and finish 11-5 as well.

 

[Superman]

I can see where both the Jets and Chiefs lose their final two games.
Jets have the P*ts and Bills, as said previously.
Chefs have the Browns and Raiders. Say what you will, but Manziel does give Cleveland a better offense than what they usually roll out. Raiders are team getting better and better - and the Chefs struggled to beat the Chargers.

 

[TDX27]

The Jets definitely could lose to NE and/or the Bills. The Chefs best chance to lose will be against the Raiders. The Raiders look awesome one week and terrible the next. It will depend on which team shows up. Either way, we need to beat the Donkies this weekend. I definitely think we can and should.

 

[Stryker]

I feel like if the Steeelrs beat the Broncos, they are in an excellent position with all kind of possibilities the following week to put them in the drivers seat, be it Denver losing or Cincinnati losing and the Jets losing to the PAts

If the Steelers beat the Broncos, they become the #6 seed at that moment, regardless of what the jets do. That is strength of schedule tie breaker.

 

[jitter77]

Its possible that Denver goes 11-5 or 10-6 and not win the division if KC goes 11-5. We would hold a head to head tie breaker over them. The way I see it currently is if we win out we get the #5 seed against Houston the #4 seed. KC would be #3 and Denver #6 (at 11-5). Jets would be out due to a loss at NE.