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Steelers Hiring Arthur Smith as new OC
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Well, Shades said that but it came from Deuce, so yea. But it could have very well been lip service to the fans still pissed that they left the best QB option on the bench for nearly 2 entire seasons. Art went out of his way to say he still believes in Kenny He didn't state that by accident or in passing. The stuff about how he will "have competition" could have been just said to pacify some of us. Come day 1 at mini-camp, Kenny will be the #1 QB probably right into the season. It would take a really bad showing in preseason to even bring the #1 role into question. And last year Kenny excelled in PS.
And then come week 1, will KP resort back to his less than 1 TD a game play? Some 13-10 wins and all we will hear from Tomlin is how "Kenny knows how to win" speeches.
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Not a good testament to quality coaching/team management. You'd like to think there were some more smarts going on than them not to be able to spot the best 2 QBs out of 3. Sounds like some really sh---y preconceived notions at play.
If the other QB’s in our division stay healthy next season we may not even make the playoffs.
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Note I said INTERVIEWED, not hired.
Their track record with good decisions isn't exactly glowing lately. Just not being able to identify that Mason was outplaying Mitch is concerning. Not putting Dotson in his natural position where he would excel is concerning. We could go on and on. Quality hasn't been a strong suit for quite some time...
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And none of the poor decisions come with any accountability. "The Steeler way." We aren't told where the owner's decisions start or end, nor the HC or GM; it's just anyone's guess and that's how it's designed and how they like it.
Rooney said the Tomlin had the final say with the OC search. Do we really need to be told who should be held accountable? It should be Tomlin unless Rooney tells us otherwise.
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That’s true about QB3
Many here cited Rudy’s role as break glass in case of emergency
We were on fire
Tomlin was pissing down his leg and the dribble wasn’t putting the fire out
Break glass and Rudy comes bursting in the burning building and puts the fire out
One step in the right direction would be putting T-biscuit out to pasture
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So all blame for the Canada disaster is at the feet of Shades? Not a good look, other coaches have been fired for less.
Of course he is responsible for Canada that was his buddy. He clearly wasn't the best candidate for the job. Nothing in his coaching tenure suggested as such.
Where Rooney comes in is his allowance of the disconnect approach to continue all the way up to the here and now OC hire. As well as being ok with mediocrity.
Art on Kenny: "In terms of the next step, we need to make sure we do everything we can to get quality play out of our quarterback position going forward. We still feel good about Kenny Pickett and his future, but he knows he needs to work hard to take the next step. We've talked about that. One of the things we liked about Kenny and his career at Pitt was how hard he worked and how he took a step every year. We're looking for that to happen here."
And, “The things about Kenny that we’ve always liked were his toughness, his competitiveness, his desire to be a winner," Rooney'd reply when asked what he likes about Pickett and where he needs to improve. "He has all of those kinds of intangibles. What I think we need from him is to continue to develop to be a quarterback who can read a defense quickly and get the offense into the best play for a given situation when he comes out of the huddle. He’s learned and has got some experience with that, and he’ll continue to work on that.”
Art on Mason: "Mason Rudolph, came in and showed, I think, what we're capable of when we do get quality play at the quarterback position." And, “I think Mason really showed, No. 1, I think he did show what we’re capable of on offense with the personnel that we have here right now, That’s encouraging in terms of Mason’s ceiling, let’s say. I don’t know that we’ve seen his ceiling yet..."
Art on QB competition: "We still feel comfortable with Kenny, but with that being said, you can’t discount what Mason did and you can’t discount the fact that having competition will be good for everybody. I think Mike feels that way, and we all feel that way ..."
Taking the words that came out of Arts mouth at face value, I'm not seeing where Kenny has been anointed. To me it seems that Art has some questions about Kenny's play to date and whether he can bring that "quality NFL quarterbacking" that's needed. As such, while they've told Kenny what he needs to work on, and hope that he does work on those things, there will be competition for QB1 because right now, they feel it's necessary.
And, “The things about Kenny that we’ve always liked were his toughness, his competitiveness, his desire to be a winner," Rooney'd reply when asked what he likes about Pickett and where he needs to improve. "He has all of those kinds of intangibles. What I think we need from him is to continue to develop to be a quarterback who can read a defense quickly and get the offense into the best play for a given situation when he comes out of the huddle. He’s learned and has got some experience with that, and he’ll continue to work on that.”
Art on Mason: "Mason Rudolph, came in and showed, I think, what we're capable of when we do get quality play at the quarterback position." And, “I think Mason really showed, No. 1, I think he did show what we’re capable of on offense with the personnel that we have here right now, That’s encouraging in terms of Mason’s ceiling, let’s say. I don’t know that we’ve seen his ceiling yet..."
Art on QB competition: "We still feel comfortable with Kenny, but with that being said, you can’t discount what Mason did and you can’t discount the fact that having competition will be good for everybody. I think Mike feels that way, and we all feel that way ..."
Taking the words that came out of Arts mouth at face value, I'm not seeing where Kenny has been anointed. To me it seems that Art has some questions about Kenny's play to date and whether he can bring that "quality NFL quarterbacking" that's needed. As such, while they've told Kenny what he needs to work on, and hope that he does work on those things, there will be competition for QB1 because right now, they feel it's necessary.
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I'm actually surprised so many fans are fine with this hire. Smith is a known rush-only coach. Isn't that what got us into this mess to begin with? Isn't he just perfectly playing the role of the "safe" OC, the typical Tomlin sh-- that so much of our ineptness is caused from? Isn't this the one guy who perfectly fits the "pee-your-pants" offensive approach that anchors this team to mediocracy at best? If the rush ain't working - as we have seen it may not - then what is a team that's 1970-1980-based supposed to do? Bend over and take it like we had to in the Bills' game?
So if our D isn't superhuman and keeping opponents to 10 or less points, we are sunk? What a majestic gameplan. No team is going to be able to defeat such a superb gameplan; I see so many Super Bowl championships out of such a brilliant plan.
If Art truly feels this way and is not content with .500 football, then I would expect him to bring in additional staff that can help with the development at the QB position.
Now, I have absolutely no idea, but I would hope their philosophy is not just to tell players on the team to work harder.
I took from those quotes that KP8 had been told to work harder on his craft and that the areas he was deficient/needed to work on included reading defenses and putting the team in the best play under the circumstances (which indicates that KP8 had some leeway to audible and wasn't particulary good at it).
A friend of mine was playing poker with Calais Campbell last night at a casino in Tampa..
Campbell told him that he loved playing for Arthur Smith and the Steeler players and fans will appreciate him.,
Take it for what it’s worth ..
Campbell told him that he loved playing for Arthur Smith and the Steeler players and fans will appreciate him.,
Take it for what it’s worth ..
I think we all know it depends on the QB. If the QB is inconsistent,inaccurate and our RB’s are decent you build more of a running offense. I have no problem with an passing game approach. As long as we have the players to do that. Right now,I’d say we don’t. So we need balance. Until a QB on the roster can prove otherwise.
While some are say CMT prefers a system of 2 TE running ball control football, I have to disagree a touch here. We had many balls to the walls passing explosive offensive football years under Ben and supporting cast. Unfortunately we just didn’t win enough from this approach. I think one of the big reasons he has taken a more conservative,don’t turn the ball over way of thinking is because of the interceptions thrown in the past. In big time situations. Like it or not,Ben did plenty of that.
Tannyhill had a good resurgence under his tutelage. So he is pass capable.
But as far as being fine with the hire for me as I stated elsewhere I would have preferred a more extensive search.
I am fine with his hire out of the candidates given buttttt I still feel they could have done better with a more extensive approach.
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i KNEW Tannehill would be mentioned in this. Their passing offense was OK in TN, something that a truly punishing rushing attack helps to establish. But we won't have that level of a rushing attack. Why? Well,, because we don't have a Dereck Henry in his prime rushing the ball nor do we have the OL that TN had.
Woa, wait, Smith will make Harris into Henry, right? Ummm, no, that's not gonna happen, hate to break that to everyone. Henry was a freak of nature, way more than Najee ever thought of being. Henry had immense size combined with blistering speed. He could take an off-tackle handoff to the house for 80 yards. Think Najee has them kinds of jets? Not even close. I'm sure Rooney thought he was getting a Dereck Henry when he drafted Najee, but he just didn't turn out to be that.
Najee JUST got over a 4 YPC average this year and it looks like that is probably his high end for his career. Henry hit over 5 YPC twice and 4.9 in another. Having the speed to rip off 40 and 60 yards at a rip will do that. Najee is ever gonna see over 5 YPC. It doesn't matter who his OC is.
Sure he would get mentioned he is a puzzle piece in his history.
I would presume he would try his approach with attempting to improve the O-line and running attack. I am not going to pretend Najee will resemble Henry..he won't. He doesn't have that kind of explosion. But that doesn't mean play action passing can't be successful. It also doesn't mean it will be successful.
Can't put the cart before the horse all of us has to see how it shakes out.
Which is why my overall approach is wait and see. If you have a crystal ball please mail it to a needy Steeler fan. (me)
Yeah, and his offenses averaged 17 points in those games. Our defense? You mean the one which has allowed 31. 42, 41, and 38 points in its last 4 playoff games? That defense? Great point.
So Cousins has only gotten his teams to the playoffs to begin with in 3 out of his 9 seasons as a starter, and he's managed one postseason win. Impressive. Like I said, he fits like a glove with Tomlin.
No, he's better than any QB we have on our roster and it's not even close. 3 out 9 seasons, but he's put up good numbers, great numbers compared to Pickett, for the most part his defenses have been pretty bad.
This is based on us keeping Tomlin, if it were my decision, Tomlin would've been gone already, but since Tomlin is staying and both him and Art says they are the business of winning now, then getting a better QB is a good place to start, not saying we're going to a Super Bowl or even winning a playoff game because Tomlin's defenses get killed in the playoffs, but Cousins is light years ahead of Pickett or Mason.
In 2019, Tennesse had the #3 rushing offense, yet they still averaged almost 40 more yards passing per game than the Steelers did that year. And almost 50 more passing yards than everybody's favorite new savior Mason Rudolph averaged in his 8 games as a starter.
The Titans were very balanced offensively when Smith was their OC, and Henry had his two best seasons while Smith was calling the plays. And so did Tannehill. That's encouraging.