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Watch the blocking scheme on this play. Either guys are SERIOSULY confused about where the play is going, or the blocking scheme literally blocks guys INTO the run instead of sealing it off. Daniels literally steps back with his right foot like he is going to push his man to the outside. Cole then steps and doubles with Daniels to push their guy outside into the hole where Harris is running to. Heyward motions across and proceeds to look around and double with Chuks who has his man sealed out really well. Heyward should have hit the hole and picked up the MLB that was coming across. So either a whole lot of people royally screwed up, or the play design and blocking scheme is a royal cluster ****.
 
Steeler Pride said:
Look to the left of Darnell, see the U shaped/V shaped opening...that would be the hole. Quit dancing and hit the hole.
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How was he going to get there? He got the handoff and got past KP but then Washington was blocking him from getting to that "hole". I see nowhere for him to go once he got the ball and KP was even remotely out of his way. Our OL was horrible. All of those guys and they really couldn't open a hole on that play at all. I've read some articles today and they are flabbergasted at how bad our OL has regressed from where they got to at the end of last year. They don't stay square to the line. They are playing finesse instead of trying to beat their man. This is all coaching and apparently what looked good last year completely sucks this year with better tools in the toolbox. The O is just pathetic no matter how you look at it.

I know the Steelers don't like to fire OC's during the season but I see no way Canaduh gets a contract extension after the season so it makes all the sense in the world to get rid of him now. Just like it made no sense not to play JPJ. Sure, he will make mistakes but he's no worse than what they've been putting on the field.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
OMG! Just watch Isaac Seumalo in that clip. He looks like kids I'd stuff on the O-Line when I coached youth football...happy prancing with hands out hoping they didn't make contact with anything.

Whiskey tango foxtrot. SMDH.
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That’s not on Semualo. The OL slid right and so did he. That’s on the QB (or Cole if he calls the protections) to change the protection at the line, or it’s on Warren for going out in a pattern and not picking up the rusher that is running free due to the line shift.

That’s why I was asking if Pickett calls the protections. I don’t think he is because i never see him point out the Mike or make any audibles. If Cole is making the line calls then maybe Warren didn't hear it. That's an issue too. They had 2 home games. What will communication look like on the road?
 
Steeler Pride said:


Watch the blocking scheme on this play. Either guys are SERIOSULY confused about where the play is going, or the blocking scheme literally blocks guys INTO the run instead of sealing it off. Daniels literally steps back with his right foot like he is going to push his man to the outside. Cole then steps and doubles with Daniels to push their guy outside into the hole where Harris is running to. Heyward motions across and proceeds to look around and double with Chuks who has his man sealed out really well. Heyward should have hit the hole and picked up the MLB that was coming across. So either a whole lot of people royally screwed up, or the play design and blocking scheme is a royal cluster ****.
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Mason cole ,,, thats a bullshit thing to do, to call a play where he has to reach a DT in the B gap.. Nobody can make that block... stupid.
 
Yeah. Our interior line gets no push. Warren just seems to be able to take a crease and slip through. I would like to see at least 50/50 touches if not 60/40 Warren.
 
Kenny is getting a great lesson in “ keep your f’ing mouth shut!!” He came to Canada’s defense, I think, without really looking at the bigger picture and studying the old Ben film… nfl offense is different from college steve smith had best critic of Canada and Steelers offense calling them an average college team.
 
Steeler Pride said:


This is the QB Option on 3rd and 1. Either this is the WORST designed blocking scheme for that play or Kenny TOTALLY misread the DE/OLB. Every block was set for the play to go the other way.
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I just replayed this about a thousand times and it is absolutely terribly designed or executed… im not real sure, but there were three rushing options and all would have been tackled… if Kenny had cut back inside, he might have had a chance but that hole open so late he was already committed to the outside… i mean watch it.. it doesn’t make sense…
 
Steeler Pride said:


Watch the blocking scheme on this play. Either guys are SERIOSULY confused about where the play is going, or the blocking scheme literally blocks guys INTO the run instead of sealing it off. Daniels literally steps back with his right foot like he is going to push his man to the outside. Cole then steps and doubles with Daniels to push their guy outside into the hole where Harris is running to. Heyward motions across and proceeds to look around and double with Chuks who has his man sealed out really well. Heyward should have hit the hole and picked up the MLB that was coming across. So either a whole lot of people royally screwed up, or the play design and blocking scheme is a royal cluster ****.
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I always think cole seems late to the blocks when he has to shift or pull… I think they still plan blocks like they have Pouncey in there…
 
Steeler Pride said:


Watch the blocking scheme on this play. Either guys are SERIOSULY confused about where the play is going, or the blocking scheme literally blocks guys INTO the run instead of sealing it off. Daniels literally steps back with his right foot like he is going to push his man to the outside. Cole then steps and doubles with Daniels to push their guy outside into the hole where Harris is running to. Heyward motions across and proceeds to look around and double with Chuks who has his man sealed out really well. Heyward should have hit the hole and picked up the MLB that was coming across. So either a whole lot of people royally screwed up, or the play design and blocking scheme is a royal cluster ****.
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It is awful design. As you said, you are asking Cole to move 2 gaps down.

Cole is asked to go 2 gaps down and get a guy. If the play is designed to go outside then they must be expecting him to be able to get to the DTs outside shoulder and seal him inside. That's a ridiculous expectation.

These outside zone run plays are supposed to have 3 options for the RB, they can take the A gap off center, take it wide around the end, or bend it backside.

This blocking only makes sense if Najee is supposed to cut up the middle. But Heyward's motion gets in the way of that.

This is either really poorly designed or multiple guys messed up. That's pretty scary if multiple guys messed up since Cole, Daniels, Chukes, and Heyward are all vets of this system.

Is this the big upgrade Canada planned for this season? Messing up the blocking schemes.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
It is awful design. As you said, you are asking Cole to move 2 gaps down.

Cole is asked to go 2 gaps down and get a guy. If the play is designed to go outside then they must be expecting him to be able to get to the DTs outside shoulder and seal him inside. That's a ridiculous expectation.

These outside zone run plays are supposed to have 3 options for the RB, they can take the A gap off center, take it wide around the end, or bend it backside.

This blocking only makes sense if Najee is supposed to cut up the middle. But Heyward's motion gets in the way of that.

This is either really poorly designed or multiple guys messed up. That's pretty scary if multiple guys messed up since Cole, Daniels, Chukes, and Heyward are all vets of this system.

Is this the big upgrade Canada planned for this season? Messing up the blocking schemes.
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Yeah their expectations of players is just absurd…hypothetically they could draw up a play and tell some guy to block three guys on the opposite side of the line then blame execution when in reality nobody can do that lol … its the same with routes… its like they don’t even consider physical limitations in the plan…

And its all through the roster and has been going on for years… you simply don’t replace a Troy or Ben or Decastro or pouncey and expect their replacement to be able to do what they did
 
madinsomniac said:
Yeah their expectations of players is just absurd…hypothetically they could draw up a play and tell some guy to block three guys on the opposite side of the line then blame execution when in reality nobody can do that lol … its the same with routes… its like they don’t even consider physical limitations in the plan…

And its all through the roster and has been going on for years… you simply don’t replace a Troy or Ben or Decastro or pouncey and expect their replacement to be able to do what they did
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That is the flaw with “next man up” or “the standard is the standard”. It is just not realistic…if a back-up is equal to your starter, they probably would not be a back-up.
 
Steeler Pride said:


Watch the blocking scheme on this play. Either guys are SERIOSULY confused about where the play is going, or the blocking scheme literally blocks guys INTO the run instead of sealing it off. Daniels literally steps back with his right foot like he is going to push his man to the outside. Cole then steps and doubles with Daniels to push their guy outside into the hole where Harris is running to. Heyward motions across and proceeds to look around and double with Chuks who has his man sealed out really well. Heyward should have hit the hole and picked up the MLB that was coming across. So either a whole lot of people royally screwed up, or the play design and blocking scheme is a royal cluster ****.
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From the start is a ******* stupid call, stretch run to the short side? Are you serious? I think my whole Madden experience and nothing else at all gives me a better capacity to call plays than coach canaduh
 
Steeler Pride said:


Watch the blocking scheme on this play. Either guys are SERIOSULY confused about where the play is going, or the blocking scheme literally blocks guys INTO the run instead of sealing it off. Daniels literally steps back with his right foot like he is going to push his man to the outside. Cole then steps and doubles with Daniels to push their guy outside into the hole where Harris is running to. Heyward motions across and proceeds to look around and double with Chuks who has his man sealed out really well. Heyward should have hit the hole and picked up the MLB that was coming across. So either a whole lot of people royally screwed up, or the play design and blocking scheme is a royal cluster ****.
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Time out...we're focusing on the lineman but this slide right is by design on a zone read and Kenny ****** it up. Watch Kenny on the play...if he keeps this ball he gets a huge gain, the DE slams down hard on the LoS which is Kenny's read. He hands it off and it goes no where. The whole purpose of the zone read is to keep the back side of the defense honest which will open lanes if executed properly. If Defenses are going to commit and fly to the ball, you need to run counters, counter traps, and reverses.
 
Badcat said:
Time out...we're focusing on the lineman but this slide right is by design on a zone read and Kenny ****** it up. Watch Kenny on the play...if he keeps this ball he gets a huge gain, the DE slams down hard on the LoS which is Kenny's read. He hands it off and it goes no where. The whole purpose of the zone read is to keep the back side of the defense honest which will open lanes if executed properly. If Defenses are going to commit and fly to the ball, you need to run counters, counter traps, and reverses.
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Agreed--

I mentioned last week that we need to see Kenny use his legs more.

This was a great opportunity to do just that.

My concern is that Kenny doesn't have the "want to"....
 
We love their passion,............... Knee jerk reaction............................ we need to get our mojo back...............

Perfect microphone answers from a head coach




Typical coach speak for offensive offense.

Nothing will happen in-season, O'Canada will be here through the durration of the season.


Salute the nation
 
Black & Gold Bleeder said:
how you supposed to get push, reaching 2 gaps over..? look at his clip.
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That is one run play. I don't see much in terms of double teams and when we are single up we lose. Our OT's have been actually doing well sealing the edges and Washington was doing a good job on the outside as well. He messed his knee up in non-contact which was a medical issue before the draft and why I would have went with Dawand Jones. But anyways, we don't get any push up the middle allowing our back to get to the LB's or what would be even better secondary. They have no chance. Like I said, Warren will slip through a crease and hits it hard and fast to break an arm tackle but Najee is too big. He needs a hole to run through. And he is most effective in the A and B gap. He has had some decent runs to the C gap but that is largely due to the tackles being able to hold their edge and TE's getting out in front. Najee can't go an entire season like that and expect to have success. He needs to do 90%+ in the A/B gap and then bounce it outside if need be every once in a while. He is too slow to live in the C gap like he has been.
 
I said this last week. KP seems to have an anchor on him for some reason. I don't know if they don't want him to run, roll out, scramble, etc. They had no designed run plays until the end of the first game which was a dumb play and then the even worse run play on 3rd and 1 in the Clowns game. He's not rolling out or moving around which is bizarre since he is good at it. I think it is a coaching thing and he needs to get that out of his head and play more natural and Canaduh has to allow him and even plan for him to move around.

About Najee, I have been a big fan and still think he can be a beast but damn, it looks like he lost a step this year if that's possible. I don't know how he was training but he looks slower even though he is averaging more YPC this year than Warren but on a small sample size. He needs to do maybe lose 10 pounds or so like Bell did but Bell had some pounds to lose whereas Najee has very little body fat. I don't know if he can gain any speed or quickness at this point.
 
Badcat said:
Time out...we're focusing on the lineman but this slide right is by design on a zone read and Kenny ****** it up. Watch Kenny on the play...if he keeps this ball he gets a huge gain, the DE slams down hard on the LoS which is Kenny's read. He hands it off and it goes no where. The whole purpose of the zone read is to keep the back side of the defense honest which will open lanes if executed properly. If Defenses are going to commit and fly to the ball, you need to run counters, counter traps, and reverses.
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No way in hell that was a zone read, or if it was Kenny made up his mind before the snap that he was handing it off. He never looks up after the snap of the ball, he immediately looks into Najee's chest and hands it off. IF it were a zone read, Kenny gets destroyed by the DE who has Robinson blocking on him and is getting man handled. It was not going to be a "huge gain."
 
Steeler Pride said:
No way in hell that was a zone read, or if it was Kenny made up his mind before the snap that he was handing it off. He never looks up after the snap of the ball, he immediately looks into Najee's chest and hands it off. IF it were a zone read, Kenny gets destroyed by the DE who has Robinson blocking on him and is getting man handled. It was not going to be a "huge gain."
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If you pause it just before Kenny hands it off to Naj, you'll see Kenny looking at the DE. This is definitely a zone read. After the hand off, Kenny half assed takes off running left and he has nothing but green pasture if he heads to the sideline.
 
Badcat said:
If you pause it just before Kenny hands it off to Naj, you'll see Kenny looking at the DE. This is definitely a zone read. After the hand off, Kenny half assed takes off running left and he has nothing but green pasture if he heads to the sideline.
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He would have gotten killed by the DE. The DE only heads down the line after he sees that Kenny does not have the ball.
 
Steeler Pride said:
He would have gotten killed by the DE. The DE only heads down the line after he sees that Kenny does not have the ball.
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?? He's straffing the LoS as soon as the ball is snapped. At no time does the DE pause at all. Not sure what you're watching Pride.
 
Badcat said:
?? He's straffing the LoS as soon as the ball is snapped. At no time does the DE pause at all. Not sure what you're watching Pride.
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Pause the video at the 4 second mark and tell me where Pickett was supposed to run to, the DE would have beaten the brakes off of him.
 
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