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Steelers select Dri Archer in Round 3

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And, apparently, the truth is they did no homework on the guy, were sitting there in the third round, napping, when someone woke them up to make their pick. They didn't know what to do, so opened their spreadsheet of Combine results, sorted by fastest 40 and wrote the name down.

Dude. Nobody said any of this ****. Try to follow the point before leaping into action.
 
http://m.patriots.com/media-center/...nt-State/c5ed831b-f2db-44de-81ae-1d8f1a0e5f56

I honestly ask you things to see what kind of exaggeration you can come up with next. Apparently it limitless.

In the clip above to me he does somethings as a receiver that can be built upon. But thats just me.

What exaggeration? Do you know what that word means?
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Perspective. 2nd round picks are a 50/50 chance to bust out, why does everyone on this board constantly expect us to never ever gamble on 3rd round? The last true 2nd round bust I can remember this team having was Sweed. I'd say that's pretty ******* good. Hell, first round picks bust at a only slightly less than 50/50, how much do you think it drops from there? I know numbers and math aren't everyones strong points, but we all know it's rare for everyone to have an impact, if you never gamble, you never win.

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftology408_2.php

Joe

Mike Adams? Marcus Gilbert? Jason Worilds? Bryant McFadden? Ricardo Colclough? Zo Jackson? All good, productive second-round picks? Frankly, going back to 2003, Woodley is the only second-round success we've had (far too early to evaluate Bell). I'd be careful calling out the intelligence of others, Joe.

A gamble is one thing. Tuitt and Bryant are gambles. Spending the pick on a guy with no position, an injury history, a fumbling problem, and a body frame at which 0% players excel.. that's not a gamble. That's called "drafting a 40 time."
 
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What exaggeration? Do you know what that word means?


Mike Adams? Marcus Gilbert? Jason Worilds? Bryant McFadden? Ricardo Colclough? All good, productive second-round picks?

You do know what "bust" means, right? It doesn't mean "didn't go to the pro bowl". Adams had some pretty solid starts at RT, and run blocks like a ******* road grater, he pass blocks like a turnstyle. We'll see if that gets corrected. Gilbert in my opinion sucks, but he doesn't suck so bad as I'd call him a bust, he sucks to the point of me wanting someone to get him to stop falling int our other linemen. Worilds just got the nod to be the starter, so I'll wait and see how that goes. McFadden was a while back, as was Colclough, but yeah, not stellar but I don't think you call either of those "busts". Oddly, I realize not every ******* player we draft is going to be pro bowl from year one. I'd have to be an idiot to think that, wouldn't I?

EDIT- and yes, Zoe Jackson sucked balls, which is why I said the LAST one I remember is Sweed, ****, we can go back though the 80's if you want and I'm sure we'll find a bunch there too, that must make ******* Chuck a dickwad idiot as well then, right?


Joe
 
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so our 2nd and 4th round picks are gambles, but our 3rd round pick was supposed to be one that is a solid All-Pro for years to come?
 
You do know what "bust" means, right? It doesn't mean "didn't go to the pro bowl". Adams had some pretty solid starts at RT, and run blocks like a ******* road grater, he pass blocks like a turnstyle. We'll see if that gets corrected. Gilbert in my opinion sucks, but he doesn't suck so bad as I'd call him a bust, he sucks to the point of me wanting someone to get him to stop falling int our other linemen. Worilds just got the nod to be the starter, so I'll wait and see how that goes. McFadden was a while back, as was Colclough, but yeah, not stellar but I don't think you call either of those "busts". Oddly, I realize not every ******* player we draft is going to be pro bowl from year one. I'd have to be an idiot to think that, wouldn't I?

Joe

I guess the only options are "Pro Bowl" or "bust"..?

Yes, Adams and Gilbert look like solid second-round picks. Juggled in and out of the lineup since the day they were drafted.

Worilds has 18 sacks in 4 seasons and was benched for a rookie last year. Yeah, he's shaped up nicely.

McFadden (9 INTs in 7 years, dumped by two teams, now out of the league) and Colclough (one career start, out of the league since 2009) weren't busts? Sheesh
 
so our 2nd and 4th round picks are gambles, but our 3rd round pick was supposed to be one that is a solid All-Pro for years to come?

A gamble is a calculated attempt with upside. Both those guys were at positions of great need.

Archer is a desperate grope who doesn't even have a position.
 
so you're suggesting that the powers that be who made this pick were either asleep at the wheel (ark's inference) or have absolutely no clue how to do their jobs and you could do it better?
 
so you're suggesting that the powers that be who made this pick were either asleep at the wheel (ark's inference) or have absolutely no clue how to do their jobs and you could do it better?

I'd call the pick stupid. You two are the ones drama queening it up.

I don't think I could do their job better. It's a ******* hobby, and this is a ******* internet message board. My apologies for even discussing it.

Steelersssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Yes damn near everything that comes out your mouth is exaggerated and over the top.
 
I'd call the pick stupid. You two are the ones drama queening it up.

I don't think I could do their job better. It's a ******* hobby, and this is a ******* internet message board. My apologies for even discussing it.

Steelersssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes, it's a ******* hobby. You've been beating on this dead horse for 20+ pages now.
buck up, Sparky. We can't change the pick. We've got our smurf midget KR/PR for better or worse.

YOU are the princess throwing the pity party. Not many here are as in love with the pick as you wish to proclaim. I'm most certainly not one of them. Though the guys who made this pick are the ones whose livelihood depends on this dude doing something on the field.
 
Why cause I suggested its was crazy to suggest that it was crazy to think they took the kid without a plan for him.

And not once have I said whatever plan they have it will work. You are the one calling it a wasted pick and that there is no way in hell he can have any success.
 
yes, it's a ******* hobby. You've been beating on this dead horse for 20+ pages now.
buck up, Sparky. We can't change the pick. We've got our smurf midget KR/PR for better or worse.

Then why even have a message board? We watched the draft and saw the pick. No point in discussing football on here.

Not many here are as in love with the pick as you wish to proclaim. I'm most certainly not one of them.

I know that. You've made it clear. The only reason you're even in this thread is because I'm in it.

Though the guys who made this pick are the ones whose livelihood depends on this dude doing something on the field.

Which gives them a 100% success rate.
 
Why cause I suggested its was crazy to suggest that it was crazy to think they took the kid without a plan for him.

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I'd call the pick stupid. You two are the ones drama queening it up.

I don't think I could do their job better. It's a ******* hobby, and this is a ******* internet message board. My apologies for even discussing it.

Steelersssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

our apologies for not assuming the FO is stupid and doesn't know what they are doing, even though we have already stated we don't understand the pick, either.
 
Why cause I suggested its was crazy to suggest that it was crazy to think they took the kid without a plan for him.

No, because you're a drama queen.

As the the "stupid" part.. it's because you clearly understand the game to some degree, but choose to shut off that part of your brain when a Steeler is brought up. Then you throw a fit when anyone goes against it.
 
Then why even have a message board? We watched the draft and saw the pick. No point in discussing football on here.



I know that. You've made it clear. The only reason you're even in this thread is because I'm in it.



Which gives them a 100% success rate.
you are such a ******* self-fellating *******.
the only reason ANYONE is posting in this thread is because of ... YOU?! Seriously? Good god damn you are one self-righteous ************ with an overabundance of self-import.

No pick ever will do anything becuz idiot doesnt like how they tie their shoes!
 
Im a drama queen lmao. Ctfu. This from the guy who cant even attempt to make any type of point without resorting to blatant over the top examples. Yet im the drama queen.
 
you are such a ******* self-fellating *******.
the only reason ANYONE is posting in this thread is because of ... YOU?! Seriously? Good god damn you are one self-righteous ************ with an overabundance of self-import.

No pick ever will do anything becuz idiot doesnt like how they tie their shoes!

No. The only reason YOU are in this thread is because of me. Same reason you post in most threads. Same reason you signed up on another board.
 
No. The only reason YOU are in this thread is because of me. Same reason you post in most threads. Same reason you signed up on another board.

and the only reason I'm on Facebook is because you might have an account?
the only reason I have email is in hopes that you send me an email?
the only reason I have a cell phone is so you can call or text?
the only reason I exist is because of you.

like I said ... over-abundance of self-import and a self-righteous drama queen ***** *** ************ is what your scouting report reads.
and there is film to back that up
 
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and the only reason I'm on Facebook is because you might have an account?
the only reason I have email is in hopes that you send me an email?
the only reason I have a cell phone is so you can call or text?
the only reason I exist is because of you.

like I said ... over-abundance of self-import and a self-righteous drama queen ***** *** ************ is what your scouting report reads.
and there is film to back that up

I'm only referring the the areas you stalk me relentlessly. Here, and on the other Steeler board you signed up on with a different name and talked only to me.
 
talking out of your *** again?
the ONLY reason Al Gore invented the internet was for me to stalk you.

dipshit.
 
Interesting thing in this draft that has been said many times, there is a lot of depth in this draft. Translated means we have lots of guys that are rated about the same, very few guys have separated themselves from the rest. After the top talent everybody has holes in their game. In addition to the quantifiable issues that several of our knowledgeable draft guys have talked about with their evaluations and time spent looking at videos of these guys, we have the things that are not quantifiable. Things like poor interview, medical issues, intelligence issues, off the field issues that may not be general knowledge. In some cases I think contacts that our staff has with other coaches in the college ranks may allow some insider info to be exchanged. Things like, this guy has some real attitude issues and does not accept coaching. What you see now is what you will get. If I did not have a friend on the police department this guy would have been arrested several times etc. As fans we will never see these things unless we happen to see things like arrest records, or coverage of court proceedings.

In some cases I suspect that players may be considered a lower value because of this or in some cases removed from our board entirely. After reading all the fine work done on here by some very knowledgeable guys that is the only thing I see that can really cause some of these guys to fall so far and be valued so much lower than there stats and data would indicate. With that in mind it might explain some of the why did we not take x player instead of why player. As to the WTF moments that we see after some high round picks who knows.
 
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