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Texas Church Shooting Leaves 26 Dead

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Texas church shooter Devin Patrick Kelley served in Air Force, was court-martialed for assaulting wife, child

The Texas church shooter was discharged from the Air Force for assaulting his spouse and child, posted social media content that was "kinda out there" and a connection to the small community where he opened fire on Sunday, officials said.

Devin Patrick Kelley, 26, killed at least 26 people and wounded approximately 20 others when he unleashed a hail of bullets inside the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, in the deadliest church shooting in modern U.S. history.

The gunman had previously served in the U.S. Air Force, and was stationed at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico from 2010 until his discharge in 2014, an Air Force spokesperson confirmed to Fox News.

He was court-martialed in 2012 for assaulting his wife and his child, and later received a bad conduct discharge from the Air Force, in addition to confinement for 12 months, and was reduced in rank.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Monday said there was a connection between the "very deranged individual" and the church where the slayings took place, telling "FOX & Friends" that people will learn about a link.

"I don't think the church was just randomly attacked," he said. "I think there was a reason why the shooter chose this church."

The gunman was also denied a Texas gun permit, according to Abbott.

"He was rejected either because he did not fully answer all the questions that are required to get a Texas gun permit, or he answered those questions wrong, that we still don't know," he said.
Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackitt told Fox News that Kelley's former father-in-law did attend the First Baptist Church, but he and his wife were not there Sunday.

His ex-mother-in-law’s P.O. Box was also listed as having a mailing address in Sutherland Springs, the Daily Beast reported.

Kelley worked as a security guard for a Texas waterpark this past summer, according to a resume under his name that appeared online.

The suspect, who is from New Braunfels, a suburb outside San Antonio, was found dead in his car after he sped away from the scene of the shooting and was chased by two Good Samaritans.

Tackitt told Fox News on Monday authorities believe the gunshot wound that ultimately killed Kelley was "self-inflicted," however, there was also an exchange of gunfire before and during the case.

"All I know is he stopped another resident right over here and said, 'Lets go we got an active shooter, we need to get him stopped,' and they were chasing him," he said. "They were shooting rounds at him and then he went off the road, we don't know if he was actually hit again or what, but wrecked out. He was from my understanding self-inflicted gun shot wound."

Kelley was dressed in black tactical gear and wearing a ballistic vest when he arrived at a Valero gas station near the First Baptist Church around 11:20 a.m., investigators said.

Speaking at a news conference Sunday night, officials said he crossed the street to the church, left his vehicle and began firing a Ruger AR assault-type rifle at the place of worship. Kelley then entered the church and began firing at the crowds of people.

"He just walked down the center aisle, turned around and my understanding was shooting on his way back out," said Tackitt, who said the gunman also carried a handgun but that he didn't know if it was fired.

"It's unbelievable to see children, men and women, laying there. Defenseless people," he said.

Investigators are looking into recent Facebook posts made by Kelley – one in particular that showed what appeared to be a semiautomatic weapon.

"I don't know what was on his websites," Tackitt said. "He'd made all kinds of comments but I don't know exactly what was on there."

Lialonnie Leos, who attended New Braunfels High School with Kelley, told Fox News the gunman was "a quiet kid" who wasn't popular, but "had his share of friends."

Leos said Kelley recently added her on Facebook and would share things about guns and Atheism on his timeline.

"He was pretty negative. The last post I remember was of a rifle," she said.

Leo said she wasn't sure what Kelley's interests were, but remembered his posts because "they were kinda out there compared to all the usual stuff i see on my timeline."
 
I don't know how you stop this sort of thing. I mean, you can take away guns, but that only changes the method. A crazy person hell bent on terrorism will find a way.
 
Its a good thing the NSA monitors everything... they are doing absng up job weeding out domestic terrorism
 
Texas Church Shooter Was Atheist, Thought Christians ‘Stupid’

The man who shot and killed 26 people in a Texas church on Sunday is reported to be a creepy, crazy, and weird outcast who preached atheism online.

“He was always talking about how people who believe in God we’re stupid and trying to preach his atheism,” former New Braunfels High School classmate Nina Rose Nava posted on Facebook.

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017...ch-shooter-atheist-thought-christians-stupid/

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Texas church gunman was shot by hero plumber Stephen Willeford and another passer-by before 100mph car chase


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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/wor...-hero-plumber-stephen-willeford-a3677181.html

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Locals exchanged gunfire with Texas shooter, ran him off the road as he tried to flee and shot him dead

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5052815/Hero-tackled-armed-shooter-left-church.html
 
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Why are white men in the US the mass and serial killers? There have been a few others, but white men tend to be the mass killers.
 
Vegas odds

America is a predominately WHITE country with some states being more equal, so it's natural

States with the highest percentages of White Americans

Vermont 96.2%
Maine 95.5%
New Hampshire 95.0%
West Virginia 94.3%
Iowa 92.9%
Idaho 92.1%
Wyoming 91.6%
Minnesota 90.94%
North Dakota 90.9%
 
POS libtard Zuckerberg deleted the shooter's facebook page. He was clearly a liberal. Besides, what side openly hates, mocks and belittles Christians, and sometimes even calls them bitter clingers? The left. This guy and the Vegas shooter were lefty nutjobs. The fake news msm will go dark about this one soon.
 
Condolences to all the families that are greiving their lost ones. Yet another senseless mass shooting. There is literally no end in sight. It's a mad, mad world we live in, where innocent people get mowed down in cold blood - time after time after time - and nothing is done to stop it.

And great work here on the board with al the fake news posts and jumping to conclusions about the murderer and his motives. Really brings this place down, to see the frantic rush to point fingers and place blame.
 
Condolences to all the families that are greiving their lost ones. Yet another senseless mass shooting. There is literally no end in sight. It's a mad, mad world we live in, where innocent people get mowed down in cold blood - time after time after time - and nothing is done to stop it.

And great work here on the board with al the fake news posts and jumping to conclusions about the murderer and his motives. Really brings this place down, to see the frantic rush to point fingers and place blame.

Really? I think liberals like Chelsea Handler and Wil Wheaton were much faster to place blame than anyone on here. The immediate calls for gun laws without even knowing what if any existing laws were already ignored by a law breaker. Don’t even say we started the blame game we are just stooping down to the liberals level.


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Are we sure this wasn’t just workplace violence?
 
fits the "clinging to your guns and religion" statement
 
here you go, Tibs, elfie and flogomanbun.

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The shooter was identified by multiple media outlets as Devin Patrick Kelley, 26, of New Braunfels, Texas whose Air Force court martial occurred only three years ago. He was also a licensed security guard for a prominent waterpark. The motive was not yet clear; the gunman’s background includes Bible school teaching, but he also liked Facebook pages devoted to atheism.

Bizarre. An atheist bible school teacher?
 
God Bless Texas

Texas attorney general: congregations should be armed after church shooting
"If more church-goers were armed “there’s always the opportunity that the gunman will be taken out before he has the opportunity to kill very many people,” Paxton said

Bow down to the altar of the NRA. More guns, more guns, more guns. The country is turning into a wasteland strewn with corpses. It's madness with no end in sight.

But we gotta Ban Muslims! Shut down borders! Build that wall! Fear Antifa, liberals and the media! Look, Hillary! .....and the bodies keep piling up.
 
If you don't like our country, leave


oh wait
 
The guy was refused a gun permit in Texas. Just goes to show the big bad gun law didn't work.
 
Why are white men in the US the mass and serial killers? There have been a few others, but white men tend to be the mass killers.

These types of posts are so very telling. It shows the writer places differing levels of "evil" to different types of death. In Liberal world, a black death means somehow more than a white death. A Democrat dying is evil, a Republican dying - well **** happens. Blacks killing blacks in Chicago? Ignore...those deaths aren't politically valuable - in fact they are damaging.

And there is the fact that the analysis shows these perceptions to be just wrong. Read 21. Learn.

Mass Shooters Aren’t Disproportionately White

Where the myth came from, and what it gets right and wrong about the demographics of mass killings.

The plurality of mass killers are white. But the notion that white men of privilege are disproportionately represented among mass shooters—indeed, that they make up “nearly all” of them—is a myth.

The myth began to spread in July 2012 after a 24-year-old white man, James Holmes, murdered 12 people in an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater. That summer, a team of researchers at Mother Jones put together a database of rampages in public settings. Among the 62 cases (and 64 total perpetrators) the team reviewed—instances dating back to 1982, in which at least four people had been killed in a public place—44 of the killers were white men and one was a white woman. In total, about 70 percent of the perpetrators in the database were white.

That figure didn’t get much notice until December 2012 when another white man, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 adults and children at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. At that point, more people started taking notice of these killers’ demographics. A week after the shooting, Stony Brook University sociologist Michael Kimmel and graduate student Cliff Leek wrote a blog post for the Huffington Post headlined “The Unbearable Whiteness of Suicide-Mass-Murder.” “We need to broaden the conversation” about these crimes, they said, to include the “often unspoken elements” of gender and race. According to their intersectional theory of mass shootings, white men “want to destroy the entire world in some cataclysmic video-game and action movie-inspired apocalypse”—a feeling Kimmel and Leek attributed to the white man’s sense of “aggrieved entitlement.” To support this point, the sociologists claimed 80 percent of the mass murders perpetrated by teenagers over the preceding three decades had been committed by white men.

The notion spread from there. The Washington Post ran an op-ed titled “White men have much to discuss about mass shootings.” Salon declared that “White male privilege kills.”

What those initial Mother Jones numbers showed, though, was that white people weren’t overrepresented among mass shooters. The media outlet had found that roughly 70 percent of the shooters in mass killings were white—certainly a majority. But according to Census Bureau estimates for 2012, whites accounted for 73.9 percent of all Americans. (Keep in mind that the definition of whiteness is both vague and forever changing. In the 2010 census, the “white” category includes those whose families originate in Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa. Mother Jones, for its part, categorizes one Moroccan immigrant killer as “white”; leaves the race field blank for a Turkish immigrant; and describes several shooters of Pakistani, Palestinian, Afghan and Kuwaiti extraction as “other.”)

I’m not sure where Kimmel and Leek got their stat about mass murders perpetrated by teenagers, but that figure, too, wasn’t that far off from U.S. demographics. At any rate, it certainly wasn’t true—as many argued then, and many do today—that mass shooters were “almost exclusively” or “disproportionately” or “nearly all” white. (Mass shooters are disproportionately men, however—more on that below.)

Since 2012, Mother Jones has added 29 more mass-shooting events to its database (and tweaked its definition of the crime to fit with new federal guidelines that placed the threshold at three victims instead of four). In this bigger data set, the proportion of white mass shooters drops down to 56 percent, by my count. Judging by those newer numbers, and the most current census estimate that 76.9 percent of Americans are white, the whites-are-overrepresented-among-mass-shooters meme appears even less accurate. Perpetrators that Mother Jones classifies as Asian make up 7.4 percent of the data set, versus an estimated 5.7 percent of the population, while those MoJo identifies as black represent 17.0 percent of the mass shooters in the database versus an estimated 13.3 percent of the population. According to this data set, then, Asians and black Americans are overrepresented among mass shooters by about the same proportion (a bit more than one-fourth) that whites are underrepresented. This means the population rate of mass shootings by whites (at least according to the tiny sample measured in the MoJo database) is 0.021 per 100,000 people, while the corresponding rate of mass shootings by blacks is 1.7 times higher, at 0.037.

This disparity, which could be thought of as the statistical non-whiteness of mass shootings, is much smaller in magnitude than the one for killings nationwide. Overall murder rates among black Americans are 6.3 times higher than they are for whites, according to a report from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Another report suggests white offenders made up just 45.3 percent of everyone who committed homicides between 1980 and 2008.*

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There's a lot more to read in the article - if you want to open your eyes. Or you can just continue spouting myths.
 
The guy was refused a gun permit in Texas. Just goes to show the big bad gun law didn't work.

I want a solution from the Dems. Lay out the plan to prevent what happened yesterday and would have prevented Vegas, Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Fort Hood, etc. What is your solution and put it in place? Let's hear it! Enough of the bitching, whining and finger pointing of the NRA. I want to hear real damn plans to be put in action to help this country with gun violence. The floor is yours. . .
 
Bow down to the altar of the NRA. More guns, more guns, more guns. The country is turning into a wasteland strewn with corpses. It's madness with no end in sight.

But we gotta Ban Muslims! Shut down borders! Build that wall! Fear Antifa, liberals and the media! Look, Hillary! .....and the bodies keep piling up.

Yes because, as always to the Alt Left, guns kill. And if we got rid of guns, it would be Unicorn and Princess Fairly Land on earth for ever. Utopia. Terrorists and murderers would be unable to harm us again.

Nice, France. A terrorist with a truck kills 84 people:

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Lots of fake news out there on this guy.

What the police said today is that it could be "domestic violence" and that a connection between threatening text messages to his ex-mother-in-law and the fact this is her church (she was not as service however) could exist.

Nothing about Antifa is true as far as I can investigate although he might still be proven to be a liberal/democrat.

Again... takes 24 hours and we have a reasonable motive. Been 5 weeks and nothing about Stephen Paddock.....
 
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