The Coronavirus thread

[Troglodyte]

Because they want to open tattoo parlors, etc? ******* brilliant I tell you.

TimSuperSteelman says “We don’t shut down tattoo parlors for the flu, do we???”

 

[Steeler Pride]

So 10k/10.4m is somehow better than 60k/330m? Nice math.

No you idiot, but it is still .00096 of the overall population. Which if the percentage translates to the US would be 315,000, a long way from the 2.2 million people that were reported to die if we didn't shut the country down. So we are decimating the global economy over an exponentially small number of people that could die from the virus.

 

[madinsomniac]

Wow, are you ******* clueless! South Korea was on top of this from the start because, wait for it... widespread testing! They were where the US currently is two months ago.

Yeah and nobody else in the world followed suit...

Also South korea did less than we did lockdown wise... they simply identified that it was far more widespread than the idiots at WHO were claiming and far less deadly... they also started using HCQ earlier than anyone...... and advocated masks in public... so basically they identified it wasn’t the biggest deal, didn’t overly panic, and used the logical treatment... pumping up the south korean methods magnifies how stupid the liberal takes on this truly are

 

[wig]

widespread testing!

can do nothing to slow the spread of the disease. It can do nothing whatsoever.

If you test me for cancer and I don't have it. You did not slow the spread of cancer.

If you test me for Algebra, and I don't get it - Algebra still exists.

If you test me for HIV/Aids and I don't have it - I don't feel you have slowed the spread of HIV/Aids.

But by all means. Slow the spread of Kung Flu by testing. I'm pretty sure in THIS case it will work.

 

[Troglodyte]

so someone tested ONCE can never, ever, ever, ever never, ever get the Rona from that point forward, ever.

is that precisely what you're saying, Captain Dipshit? Because that's exactly how it comes across. the test is only good for THAT SPECIFIC time frame and is not predictive of future acquisition.

No, but if someone has it but only has some of the symptoms, it sure as hell is better that they get tested as tests are not so scarce that they need to be rationed.

Allegheny County has had as little as 7 new daily cases recently. Out of 1.2 million people. But we can’t start to reopen yet because only 1% of population has been tested and they’re not sure how representative that 1% is. Overly cautious? Perhaps, but that’s what they’re doing, it’s not my opinion of what they should be doing.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

it’s not my opinion of what they should be doing.

Kinda sounds like it, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Superman]

No, but if someone has it but only has some of the symptoms, it sure as hell is better that they get tested as tests are not so scarce that they need to be rationed.

Allegheny County has had as little as 7 new daily cases recently. Out of 1.2 million people. But we can’t start to reopen yet because only 1% of population has been tested and they’re not sure how representative that 1% is. Overly cautious? Perhaps, but that’s what they’re doing, it’s not my opinion of what they should be doing.

so you're advocating - nay, PLEADING - with the national public that if they have a sore throat or a sniffle to go to the nearest testing facility and be tested.

you do realize that someone has to pay for those tests to be made. you do realize that you're advocating for those who make those tests to be rewarded (quite handsomely, I must say) for making those tests. you do realize that when people mad rush to get tests from a snotty nose that even those who DO NOT HAVE the Rona may very well contract the Rona while waiting to be testing - or those who have it may also spread it while waiting to be tested.

no, it doesnt seem you take into account **** of reality. I do believe you think that everyone will be sterilized before they leave their home, wrapped in bubble and shrink wrap, then transported directly to the testing facility and then directly home. You want to ***** about people going to get a ******* tattoo, but fail (hmmm... seems a liberal calling card) to account for the fact that those who are being tested very well may make a pit stop to/from a testing facility, regardless of whether or not they have the Rona.

so, we've now circled back to locking doors, staying in pajamas, covering with a security blanket and hiding under the dining room table until this virus is 100% decimated from the planet.

congratulations, Flog-o-Tard, you done did play yourself.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

So 10k/10.4m is somehow better than 60k/330m? Nice math.

You are about the simplest 'tard to ever troll this board.

One...get your facts straight. We don't have 60K deaths yet, it's 48k.

Second...in both instances, the deaths are an infinitesimal portion of the population.

Third....one country did little at all as far as testing/lockdowns, the other knee-jerk reacted to the worst extreme. One has it's society living, working, enjoying life, has some semblance of an economy to go back to. The other may have put a bullet through its own head. Survival is in question.

The results aren't that different.

And frankly....given the # of cases and the # of deaths who can claim what we are doing is working?? Who can stand up and say this is the right approach? Not based on the numbers. Not when compared to SK and Sweden. They did less as far as lockdowns. Perhaps...our approach has been *** wrong since the beginning and herd immunity was the right approach and we ****** ourselves even longer by "not getting dirty."

You'll claim the "experts" know. They prove more and more each day goes by they haven't a clue so far. Just hypotheses and guesses.

And we may have taken the wrong approach and are watching Rome fall....for what? To save how many people? And of those who have passed, how many were working age?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

so you're advocating - nay, PLEADING - with the national public that if they have a sore throat or a sniffle to go to the nearest testing facility and be tested.

you do realize that someone has to pay for those tests to be made. you do realize that you're advocating for those who make those tests to be rewarded (quite handsomely, I must say) for making those tests. you do realize that when people mad rush to get tests from a snotty nose that even those who DO NOT HAVE the Rona may very well contract the Rona while waiting to be testing - or those who have it may also spread it while waiting to be tested.

no, it doesnt seem you take into account **** of reality. I do believe you think that everyone will be sterilized before they leave their home, wrapped in bubble and shrink wrap, then transported directly to the testing facility and then directly home. You want to ***** about people going to get a ******* tattoo, but fail (hmmm... seems a liberal calling card) to account for the fact that those who are being tested very well may make a pit stop to/from a testing facility, regardless of whether or not they have the Rona.

so, we've now circled back to locking doors, staying in pajamas, covering with a security blanket and hiding under the dining room table until this virus is 100% decimated from the planet.

congratulations, Flog-o-Tard, you done did play yourself.

Please don't forget to add.....

Right the moment, who is the most dangerous person you could come into contact with?

Why......a Doctor or a Nurse, especially one at a hospital.

Where is the most dangerous place to be?


Why.....a hospital.

Where do you get the Rona test....most of the time...a hospital.

So those advocating for people getting tested are advocating people with a sniffle come into contact with the most dangerous persons they possibly could in the most dangerous settings they possibly could be in.

What the **** could go wrong forcing everyone to get tested....right???

 

[Superman]

and, flog, the reason for this:

you do realize that you're advocating for those who make those tests to be rewarded (quite handsomely, I must say) for making those tests.

once this is over - you and your ilk will be vilifying the CEO of whichever company does make the most used test for "putting profits ahead of people and profiting off the sick and needy"

why?

because that is exactly what you ***** do.

 

[Steeltime]

Wow, are you ******* clueless! South Korea was on top of this from the start because, wait for it... widespread testing! They were where the US currently is two months ago.

So testing prevents the virus from spreading? It must, because as Supe demonstrated, South Korea did not institute a widespread lockdown, continued running its economy, and has a tiny number of deaths from the virus.

Sweden - no widespread lockdown, death rate less than its neighbor, Belgium with the lockdown.

What do Sweden and South Korea have in common? Isolation for the ILL and vulnerable.

Oh, and vastly less economic harm. Orders of magnitude less. The lockdown cult was wrong.

 

[21STEELERS21]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/20/south-korea-rapid-intrusive-measures-covid-19

South Korea controlled the virus by being one of the first to know it was coming and began early testing and quarantining those that were positive.
You have to be able to test so you know who needs to quarantine, so you limit the spread. If the US wants to open the economy, we need to start
doing what South Korea was doing 3 months ago.

 

[Troglodyte]

No you idiot, but it is still .00096 of the overall population. Which if the percentage translates to the US would be 315,000, a long way from the 2.2 million people that were reported to die if we didn't shut the country down. So we are decimating the global economy over an exponentially small number of people that could die from the virus.

You’re an idiot for comparing Sweden to the US in the first place. Twice the population of Stockholm (3.1m) commute into NYC daily. It’s extremely naive to think the transmission rate of the virus would be the same for both countries.

Why was it a big deal when 1/100th of 315,000 died on 9/11?

 

[Steeltime]

So 10k/10.4m is somehow better than 60k/330m? Nice math.

You stupid ***-gerbil, SK is (1) right ******* next to ******* China, the source of the ******* disease, and (2) is at the end of its curve.

Oh, and dumbshit, SK has a population of 51 million, NOT 10 million. About 1/6th the population of the United States.

And has 1/6th the number of deaths from the Chinese flu.

Math is hard.

 

[Superman]

Under lockdown, a family of 4 - one person in that family has the Rona. Possible that that person dies. Per Flog, that person WILL die. And that person will spread the Rona. Death estimate for locking down that family? Four.

Without lockdown, a family of 4 - one person in that family has the Rona. Possible that that person dies. Per Flog, that person WILL die. That person may or may not spread the Rona to family members as they will not be quarantined with that person. Death estimate for locking down that family? One, or less.

this all highly computed math, performed by an expert in the field of bullshit. you cannot argue this, Flog. those are the numbers. prove yourself wrong.

 

[Troglodyte]

you do realize that someone has to pay for those tests to be made.

What, like several trillion dollars? No, a lot less than that, right?

 

[Roy92040]

State, local governments expecting layoffs amid push for federal assistance

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-local-governments-layoffs

I say let them hold bake sales and car washes. Or maybe better yet there's always stuff the boot.

 

[Troglodyte]

You are about the simplest 'tard to ever troll this board.

One...get your facts straight. We don't have 60K deaths yet, it's 48k.

Second...in both instances, the deaths are an infinitesimal portion of the population.

Simple would be understanding he referred to PROJECTED deaths as would understanding a smaller numerator strengthens my point! Too easy.

If it’s infinitesimal, what were the 3,000 that died on 9/11?

 

[Troglodyte]

You stupid ***-gerbil, SK is (1) right ******* next to ******* China, the source of the ******* disease, and (2) is at the end of its curve.

Oh, and dumbshit, SK has a population of 51 million, NOT 10 million. About 1/6th the population of the United States.

And has 1/6th the number of deaths from the Chinese flu.

Math is hard.

Uh, right, he was referring to SWEDEN.

LOL! All of you need to take a deep breath and regroup.

 

[Steeltime]

Uh, right, he was referring to SWEDEN.

LOL! All of you need to take a deep breath and regroup.

Again, you prove math is hard; being a moron is hard; math for morons is nigh impossible.

Specifically, you wrote,

So 10k/10.4m is somehow better than 60k/330m? Nice math.

No, 10,000 out of 51 MILLION is not worse than 60,000 out of 320 million. Get it? If not, wait for grade schools to re-open and ask for help from a second grader.

Also, Zona's article contains several comments by doctors about the ravages brought on by the hysterical lockdown, including one doctor observing:

Although canceling procedures such as elective hernia repairs and knee replacements is relatively straightforward, for many interventions the line between urgent and nonurgent can be drawn only in retrospect. As Brian Kolski, director of the structural heart disease program at St. Joseph Hospital in Orange County, California, told me, “A lot of procedures deemed ‘elective’ are not necessarily elective.” Two patients in his practice whose transthoracic aortic valvular replacements were postponed, for example, died while waiting. “These patients can’t wait 2 months,” Kolski said. “Some of them can’t wait 2 weeks.” Rather than a broad moratorium on elective procedures, Kolski believes we need a more granular approach. “What has been the actual toll on some of these patients?” he asked.

So how many patients have died in Florida, and Illinois, and Michigan, and Arizona, and Washington due to the lockdown of all "elective" surgery? You don't know, do you? How many die due to the poverty and loss of life savings due to the self-immolation of the economy? Deaths due to suicide, drug abuse, overdose, homelessness, despair? Right, once again you have no clue.

But you apparently have no problem continuing killing people with poverty and medical deprivation because lockdown.

 

[LeXX75]

Simple would be understanding he referred to PROJECTED deaths as would understanding a smaller numerator strengthens my point! Too easy.

If it’s infinitesimal, what were the 3,000 that died on 9/11?

murder........

 

[Steeler Pride]

Why was it a big deal when 1/100th of 315,000 died on 9/11?

Really, you are that ******* stupid? You don't have to answer that, we already know the answer.

 

[Steeler Pride]

You’re an idiot for comparing Sweden to the US in the first place. Twice the population of Stockholm (3.1m) commute into NYC daily. It’s extremely naive to think the transmission rate of the virus would be the same for both countries.

Why was it a big deal when 1/100th of 315,000 died on 9/11?

FYI, the population density of Stockholm is 18,000 per sq. mile. The population density of New York is 24,000 per sq. mile. So about a 25% increase of New York over Stockholm. Not the staggering numbers you are trying to peddle, as the density is far more important than the total population.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Simple would be understanding he referred to PROJECTED deaths as would understanding a smaller numerator strengthens my point! Too easy.

If it’s infinitesimal, what were the 3,000 that died on 9/11?

You are now comparing this to 9/11???

When we faced the threat from Al Quaeda, did we put 22Million and rising out of work? Did we shut down the entire country for months on end with no end in sight?? Did we intentionally ruin our economy and implement near or actual martial law for months on end???

For you to compare these two....OMG. Just...OMFG.

My God, to use your logic I should reply with "what about the 750,000 babies murdered every year through abortion?" I mean if we are just going to jump right off the illogical cliff.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

You are now comparing this to 9/11???

When we faced the threat from Al Quaeda, did we put 22Million and rising out of work? Did we shut down the entire country for months on end with no end in sight?? Did we intentionally ruin our economy and implement near or actual martial law for months on end???

For you to compare these two....OMG. Just...OMFG.

My God, to use your logic I should reply with "what about the 750,000 babies murdered every year through abortion?" I mean if we are just going to jump right off the illogical cliff.

If we ever discover that China either intentionally released this or more likely intentionally covered it up causing the deaths of probably 60 to 70 thousand in the US alone by not letting us prepare, then at least from an abstract point of view, the comparison is somewhat justified. How much money and lives did we spend for 2 decades following 9/11 in wars? It isn't apples to apples but it isn't entirely an unfair comparison either.