The Epstein Problem

[CharlesDavenport]

Where did I say Trump's relationship with Epstein is the same as Clinton's? You seem to love nothing more than arguing with me about things I didn't say.

Here's a quote from one of my posts:



Does that mean I think it's inconceivable that Trump ever misbehaved while spending time with Epstein, whether legally or just morally? No I do not. This is a guy who ****** a porn star he just met while his wife was home with their newborn baby. Let's not pretend he's some upstanding Christian guy.

Nice try with that quote, but that is not what I was responding to. Here are your quotes I responded to. First,

I don't think Trump is a pedo, nor do I think Clinton is by the way just based on both of their histories,

Clearly here you are implying that they have similarly innocuous backgrounds as it relates to the likelihood of pedophilia, and I strongly disagree.

Then you replied with,

A 22 year old is not a child. And I'm not saying he's a good guy, just that I've seen no evidence he's a pedo.

I'm not defending Clinton, nor do I share your Trump blinders. I have no doubt they are both absolute pigs with women, to what degree we don't really know, depends on who you believe. And I have no doubt that Clinton probably screwed his brains out when hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, whether he shares Epstein's tastes for little girls over adults, that I wouldn't say without seeing any evidence of it.

Again, you are downplaying the specifics of Clinton and lumping them both into the pig category. If you don't think that a 49 year old President sticking a cigar up a 22 year old intern isn't a disturbing abuse of power that would be in line with other abusive acts, then we disagree.

Then, even in your rebuttal, you say this

Does that mean I think it's inconceivable that Trump ever misbehaved while spending time with Epstein, whether legally or just morally? No I do not. This is a guy who ****** a porn star he just met while his wife was home with their newborn baby. Let's not pretend he's some upstanding Christian guy.

You are trying so hard. It obvious that you are buying into the narrative that somehow Trump needs to be brought into this. Trump and Clinton should not even be on the same page on anything talking about Epstein.

 

[Sarge]

I was listening to CNN on Sirius XM this morning on my way to work. They are trying their best to implicate Trump in this. They are focused on his statement from what, 1999. No mention of him banning Epstein from all Trump properties once he found out the dude was a pedophile. I hate the dishonesty with which they report. they are going form a narrative of Trump being a pedophile I guess, since the whole collusion thing didn't work out for them.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

So the Chief Judge of SDNY is Clinton appointee Colleen McMahon. The US Attorney for for SDNY is Geoffrey Berman, appointed as interim Attorney by Sessions. In Sessions-like fashion, one of the first things he does is recuse himself from the investigation into Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen. Two weeks after the Cohen raid, in a weird process, Chief Judge McMahon announces that Manhattan federal judges have voted to name Geoffrey Berman as permanent U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and she ordered it so.

Interesting coincidence? I doubt it, and just another example of the judiciary taking power away from the other branches. Very swampy. I'm telling' ya. This thing stinks. If you think Clinton will get exposed legally at all in any of this, you are dreaming.

 

[Sarge]

On it's face, Clinton's claim that he knew nothing doesn't wash. The dude flew places with Epstein 26 times. Pictures are coming out, as posted above. I mean, who doesn't question a 16 year old girl on a plane with a man that's not her father? He knew. Even if he didn't participate, so to speak, I think it is likely that he knew. It was pretty much common knowledge.

Now the big question is, despite the fact that they had Epstein dead to rights once on this and cut him a deal, what is Acosta's part in this? I am interested to see it all unfold. But like you, I doubt anything will happen with Bill Clinton.

 

[IndySteel]

All women need to be believed. LMAO! Bubba, you're ******.

 

[Superman]

and they dominoes begin to fall...

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

and they dominoes begin to fall...

Arkancide victim 1 I'm guessing.

 

[Super Dave]

Wow that was fast.......

 

[Sarge]

Well, it is New York. That's local for the Clinton's.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Anybody find another source for that Maxwell story? I can't.

 

[Spike]

All women need to be believed. LMAO! Bubba, you're ******.

"I did not have sex with those underage girls...."

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Barr recused himself from the Epstein case yesterday.

 

[IndySteel]

They say that there are flight records that show Clinton on the plane with under aged girls. The log has all of their names.

 

[Sarge]

Riding on a plane with underage girls isn't a crime. Now if it becomes something more nefarious, that's different. Gonna be tough to prove, unless Epstein outs him or there is video or something.

 

[Steeltime]

Riding on a plane with underage girls isn't a crime. Now if it becomes something more nefarious, that's different. Gonna be tough to prove, unless Epstein outs him or there is video or something.

Was Blaisey Ford on one of those plane rides? If so ...

 

[Spike]

Maxwell is close to the Clintons for sure

 

[Spike]

Barr recused himself from the Epstein case yesterday.

Not quite



Barr not recusing himself from case against Jeffrey Epstein

Attorney General William Barr will not recuse himself from a case involving sex trafficking-related charges filed against billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, according to reports. Bloomberg News, citing an anonymous Justice Department official, reported Barr came to the decision after speaking with ethics officials within the department.

But Barr will remain recused from any Justice Department review of its decision in 2008 to let Epstein avoid prosecution on federal sex trafficking offenses. Federal prosecutors in Florida at the time reached a plea deal with Epstein that allowed him to plead guilty to two state charges of soliciting a prostitute while avoiding a long prison sentence.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...self-from-case-against-jeffrey-epstein-report

 

[oneforthebus]

Nice try with that quote, but that is not what I was responding to. Here are your quotes I responded to. First,

Clearly here you are implying that they have similarly innocuous backgrounds as it relates to the likelihood of pedophilia, and I strongly disagree.

Then you replied with,


Again, you are downplaying the specifics of Clinton and lumping them both into the pig category. If you don't think that a 49 year old President sticking a cigar up a 22 year old intern isn't a disturbing abuse of power that would be in line with other abusive acts, then we disagree.

Then, even in your rebuttal, you say this

You are trying so hard. It obvious that you are buying into the narrative that somehow Trump needs to be brought into this. Trump and Clinton should not even be on the same page on anything talking about Epstein.

Good lord Chuck, please come out from behind Trump's nutsack for a minute and listen to reason. Nowhere did I equate Trump with Bill Clinton in terms of the likelihood that they've done something illegal or just gross with Epstein. I said it is clear Trump did not have anywhere near as much involvement with Epstein as Clinton did. That said, are you seriously saying that it would shock you to find out that Trump ever once got a massage with a happy ending while hanging out with Epstein? It's not even a possibility to you? Yeah, that's what BLINDERS look like.

And you want to argue the moral superiority of someone who would **** a cum dumpster he didn't even know two months after his wife gave birth to their son, unprotected sex as far as we know, over someone who ****** a 22 year old intern with a cigar? To my mind those are both pretty disgusting acts but if you think one is so much morally superior to the other that's your prerogative.

And those are just the things we know about.

 

[Superman]

Anybody find another source for that Maxwell story? I can't.

maybe just preparing the template for use Wednesday, Thursday or Friday...if not Sunday night.

 

[Sarge]

please come out from behind Trump's nutsack for a minute

That was funny. I laughed. Ha ha.

 

[Sarge]

Maxwell is close to the Clintons for sure

Ooooof. Oh man. Bill might be in a world of ****. She is a dead woman walking. No doubt about it.

 

[Superman]

this thread is invisible to the Board Libs

 

[Sarge]

this thread is invisible to the Board Libs

Why?

 

[Steeltime]

this thread is invisible to the Board Libs

No, no, no. Liberals have things squared away, 100%.

 

[deljzc]

The rich and famous and their sexual proclivities has and always will be a story that we seem to get close to pulling back the curtain but never happens.

Hell, isn't the whole Black Dahlia story from Hollywood in the 1950's also about sex parties, the rich and famous, and need-to-know power?

This goes back to Caligula and we think society has "changed for the better"? If you believe that, I have land to sell you in Florida.