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The Official Thread Dedicated to "Trump Winning"

The degenerates who want Trump impeached are proven to hate America, hate America’s success under Trump and hate the Americans who voted for him. May they all burn in hell.
 
Tibs will cry "whataboutism." It matters.

I call it selective outrage. It was fine for your party, for your President, but don't let an R do the same thing.

The impeachment, that will fail, is bogus.

FLASHBACK: Seven Times the GAO Said the Obama Administration Broke Federal Law

A report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released yesterday contained the non-binding opinion that President Trump’s Office of Management and Budget violated the Impoundment Control Act (ICA) by withholding aid to Ukraine. The ICA governs how the White House distributes money approved by Congress. The timing seems almost too perfect, being released right before the Senate trial officially began.

Trump’s opponents rushed to claim the release as the latest “bombshell” to rock his administration. Sen. Chris Van Hollen literally called it a “bombshell,” while failed presidential candidate Even McMullin declared that the “Senate cannot ignore this crime.” They, and everyone else, are wrongly under the impression that this justifies impeachment. If it did, Obama should’ve been impeached seven times over.

As Breitbart’s Joel Pollak reported, there were seven times that the GAO found the Obama administration to have broken the law:

  • The Department of Homeland Security and United States Secret Service (USSS) were found to have violated section 503 of the Consolidated Security, Disaster Assistance, and Continuing Appropriations Act, and the Antideficiency Act, in 2009 after the Secret Service reported that it had overspent on candidate protection in 2008 by $5,100,000, and used money from another program to cover the shortfall. DHS failed to notify Congress 15 days in advance of the “reprogramming.”
  • The Department of the Treasury was found to have violated the Antideficiency Act in 2014 when it used the voluntary services of four individuals. “Treasury did not appoint any of the individuals to federal employment, nor did any individual qualify as a student who may, under certain circumstances, perform voluntary service,” the GAO found, adding that there was no emergency that might have justified using the individuals to perform several months of work without receiving pay.
  • The Department of Defense was found to have violated the Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2014 and the Antideficiency Act in the infamous Bowe Bergdahl swap, when President Barack Obama traded five high-level Taliban detainees for a U.S. Army deserter. The administration transferred the five Taliban from Guantanamo Bay without notifying relevant congressional committees 30 days in advance, as required by law. Republicans complained; Democrats were silent.
  • The Department of Housing and Urban Development was found to have violated the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, and the Antideficiency Act in 2014 when the deputy secretary of the department sent an email to “friends and colleagues” asking them to lobby the Senate in favor of a bill appropriating money to the department, and against amendments offered by Republican Senators.
  • The Environmental Protection Agency was found to have violated “publicity or propaganda and anti-lobbying provisions” in the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act and the Department of the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act in 2015 by using some of the department’s social media accounts in rule-making for the “Waters of the United States” (WOTUS) regulations (which have since been repealed under the Trump administration).
  • Two officials in the Department of Housing and Urban Development were found in 2016 to have violated Section 713 of the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act by attempting to prevent a regional director within the agency from being interviewed by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. (Notably, the GAO reversed its earlier decision that the department’s general counsel had not violated the law once it was presented with more evidence.)
  • The Federal Maritime Commission was found to have violated Section 711 of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, as well as the Antideficiency Act, in 2016 when it failed to notify the relevant Senate and House committees that it had spent more than $5,000 to furnish and redecorate the office of its former director in 2010. (The total amount spent was $12,084 over three years, as noted by the GAO in a footnote reference to an inspector general’s report on the excessive expenditures.)

As we explained yesterday, the impoundment of funds is a measure a great many presidents and public figures have supported, including: Abe Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton, the Bushes, John McCain, John Kerry, Al Gore, Pat Buchanan, Jeb Hensarling, Russ Feingold, Joe Lieberman, Judd Gregg, and not least both Paul Ryan… and Barack Obama have all supported the power of the presidency to balance the spending power of Congress.

Remember that the impeachable offense that Democrats used to justify their impeachment circus was an alleged quid pro quo with Ukraine over withheld aid. It’s the intent for withholding aid that the basis of impeachment is over – not the withholding of the funds itself, which is what the GAO took issue with.
 
muh legacy!


President Trump to roll back Michelle Obama's school lunch rules

The Trump administration on Friday announced plans to roll back school lunch standards on vegetables and fruits originally promoted by Michelle Obama, unveiling the proposal on the former first lady's birthday.

The new standards will allow schools more flexibility "because they know their children best," the Agriculture Department said in a press release.

“Schools and school districts continue to tell us that there is still too much food waste and that more common-sense flexibility is needed to provide students nutritious and appetizing meals. We listened and now we’re getting to work,” Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue said in a statement.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...-roll-back-michelle-obamas-school-lunch-rules
 
Spike said:
muh legacy!


President Trump to roll back Michelle Obama's school lunch rules

The Trump administration on Friday announced plans to roll back school lunch standards on vegetables and fruits originally promoted by Michelle Obama, unveiling the proposal on the former first lady's birthday.

The new standards will allow schools more flexibility "because they know their children best," the Agriculture Department said in a press release.

“Schools and school districts continue to tell us that there is still too much food waste and that more common-sense flexibility is needed to provide students nutritious and appetizing meals. We listened and now we’re getting to work,” Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue said in a statement.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...-roll-back-michelle-obamas-school-lunch-rules
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It is the most infuriating thing. They give every kid a fruit and vegetable even if they don't want it. I watched most of the kids just throw them away. So, like a good liberal policy, it does nothing to improve nutrition but does provide a false market for some government contractors to get rich while delivering the shittiest lunches you can imagine.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
It is the most infuriating thing. They give every kid a fruit and vegetable even if they don't want it. I watched most of the kids just throw them away. So, like a good liberal policy, it does nothing to improve nutrition but does provide a false market for some government contractors to get rich while delivering the shittiest lunches you can imagine.
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Someone here once posted pictures comparing other countries meals to the US fare under Moochelles garbage. It was sad to see the slop they are/were? feeding our children.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
It is the most infuriating thing. They give every kid a fruit and vegetable even if they don't want it. I watched most of the kids just throw them away. So, like a good liberal policy, it does nothing to improve nutrition but does provide a false market for some government contractors to get rich while delivering the shittiest lunches you can imagine.
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Man, I remember the days when I was in school. I swear it was better than home cooking. Eat double and triple on lasagna days, the best chilli and corn bread I have ever eaten, ham pot pie, meatloaf and fried chicken as good as my mother could make....

Most of the time it's the only reason I bothered going to school lol.
 
I bet that by tomorrow afternoon we'll start seeing Bloomberg commercials stating that Trump hates your kids and stopped feeding the poorest ones.
 
Tibs said:
That was actually Manu Raju of CNN, a longtime congressional reporter, very well respected by both parties. The senator is a great example of how MAGA rots the brain > crude, rude, aggressive and volatile. Trumpism spreads like a disease, affecting all those who blindly follow him.
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No, TDS spreads like a disease and you are clearly afflicted.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Tibs will cry "whataboutism." It matters.

I call it selective outrage. It was fine for your party, for your President, but don't let an R do the same thing.

The impeachment, that will fail, is bogus.

FLASHBACK: Seven Times the GAO Said the Obama Administration Broke Federal Law

A report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released yesterday contained the non-binding opinion that President Trump’s Office of Management and Budget violated the Impoundment Control Act (ICA) by withholding aid to Ukraine. The ICA governs how the White House distributes money approved by Congress. The timing seems almost too perfect, being released right before the Senate trial officially began.

Trump’s opponents rushed to claim the release as the latest “bombshell” to rock his administration. Sen. Chris Van Hollen literally called it a “bombshell,” while failed presidential candidate Even McMullin declared that the “Senate cannot ignore this crime.” They, and everyone else, are wrongly under the impression that this justifies impeachment. If it did, Obama should’ve been impeached seven times over.

As Breitbart’s Joel Pollak reported, there were seven times that the GAO found the Obama administration to have broken the law:

  • The Department of Homeland Security and United States Secret Service (USSS) were found to have violated section 503 of the Consolidated Security, Disaster Assistance, and Continuing Appropriations Act, and the Antideficiency Act, in 2009 after the Secret Service reported that it had overspent on candidate protection in 2008 by $5,100,000, and used money from another program to cover the shortfall. DHS failed to notify Congress 15 days in advance of the “reprogramming.”
  • The Department of the Treasury was found to have violated the Antideficiency Act in 2014 when it used the voluntary services of four individuals. “Treasury did not appoint any of the individuals to federal employment, nor did any individual qualify as a student who may, under certain circumstances, perform voluntary service,” the GAO found, adding that there was no emergency that might have justified using the individuals to perform several months of work without receiving pay.
  • The Department of Defense was found to have violated the Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2014 and the Antideficiency Act in the infamous Bowe Bergdahl swap, when President Barack Obama traded five high-level Taliban detainees for a U.S. Army deserter. The administration transferred the five Taliban from Guantanamo Bay without notifying relevant congressional committees 30 days in advance, as required by law. Republicans complained; Democrats were silent.
  • The Department of Housing and Urban Development was found to have violated the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, and the Antideficiency Act in 2014 when the deputy secretary of the department sent an email to “friends and colleagues” asking them to lobby the Senate in favor of a bill appropriating money to the department, and against amendments offered by Republican Senators.
  • The Environmental Protection Agency was found to have violated “publicity or propaganda and anti-lobbying provisions” in the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act and the Department of the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act in 2015 by using some of the department’s social media accounts in rule-making for the “Waters of the United States” (WOTUS) regulations (which have since been repealed under the Trump administration).
  • Two officials in the Department of Housing and Urban Development were found in 2016 to have violated Section 713 of the Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act by attempting to prevent a regional director within the agency from being interviewed by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. (Notably, the GAO reversed its earlier decision that the department’s general counsel had not violated the law once it was presented with more evidence.)
  • The Federal Maritime Commission was found to have violated Section 711 of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, as well as the Antideficiency Act, in 2016 when it failed to notify the relevant Senate and House committees that it had spent more than $5,000 to furnish and redecorate the office of its former director in 2010. (The total amount spent was $12,084 over three years, as noted by the GAO in a footnote reference to an inspector general’s report on the excessive expenditures.)

As we explained yesterday, the impoundment of funds is a measure a great many presidents and public figures have supported, including: Abe Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton, the Bushes, John McCain, John Kerry, Al Gore, Pat Buchanan, Jeb Hensarling, Russ Feingold, Joe Lieberman, Judd Gregg, and not least both Paul Ryan… and Barack Obama have all supported the power of the presidency to balance the spending power of Congress.

Remember that the impeachable offense that Democrats used to justify their impeachment circus was an alleged quid pro quo with Ukraine over withheld aid. It’s the intent for withholding aid that the basis of impeachment is over – not the withholding of the funds itself, which is what the GAO took issue with.
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Hey you Hungarian Troll...why wasn't Obama impeached?
 
deljzc said:
Asking Ukraine's new President, as part of an anti-corruption agenda and being skeptical of foreign aide, to look into the fishy hiring of Hunter Biden on some corrupt energy "board" just does not rise to high crimes and misdemeanors. Period. End of debate. If you think so, your are biased against the President, look at it as part of a "greater picture" of impropriety (again, mostly based on your bias against his legitimate election win) and all part of "I want him impeached in any way shape or form".
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<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sen. Lindsey Graham in 1999: “A president doesn’t even have to be convicted of a crime to be impeached. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office”<a href="https://t.co/KXp0L4jYGe">pic.twitter.com/KXp0L4jYGe</a></p>— PoliticsVideoChannel (@politvidchannel) <a href="https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/status/1176636539603800064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
 
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And the Democrats have lowered that bar so low, they may have irreparably harmed the republic in the process.


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Tibs said:
<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sen. Lindsey Graham in 1999: “A president doesn’t even have to be convicted of a crime to be impeached. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office”<a href="https://t.co/KXp0L4jYGe">pic.twitter.com/KXp0L4jYGe</a></p>— PoliticsVideoChannel (@politvidchannel) <a href="https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/status/1176636539603800064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
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Ok. Post all of the Democrats saying what the Republicans are now saying. Then go back and look at what happened to the Republicans in the next election. The Democrats are making the same type of mistake the Republicans did with Clinton and will pay for it just like the Republicans did.

Tibs you have to see the problem the Democrats created by calling early and often for impeachment without any substantive reason for it other than hate and anger and then wonder why the public won’t take them seriously. How can you say with one breath it is a solemn duty then go on Maher and laugh about in with the next. Pelosi used to be a shrewd politician but she has lost it and lose her grasp on power because of it.


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Senate Republicans should follow their own guidelines and have a full & fair trial. Nothing more, nothing less.


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I need witnesses and further evidence to guide me to the right destination, to get to the truth.” <a href="https://twitter.com/SenatorCollins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SenatorCollins</a> <a href="https://t.co/VvRRL5OQea">pic.twitter.com/VvRRL5OQea</a></p>— Windsor Mann (@WindsorMann) <a href="https://twitter.com/WindsorMann/status/1217589079178534912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Conservatives abandoning their principles for Trump? You don't say...

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/RosenzweigP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RosenzweigP</a>, former Senior Counsel Whitewater/Lewinsky Investigation, worked with Ken Starr during President Clinton’s impeachment. Hear what he thinks about Starr joining President Trump’s defense team. <a href="https://t.co/PNQnb2iqmp">pic.twitter.com/PNQnb2iqmp</a></p>— Republicans for the Rule of Law (@ForTheRuleOfLaw) <a href="https://twitter.com/ForTheRuleOfLaw/status/1218850591029354497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
 
Tibs, I don't know why you care what Senators say.

You think anyone here cares about Senators? They all lie. They all suck. We've been calling for term limits on this board, almost unanimously, for a decade (somehow, I fail to see you advocated it around all your TDS however).

I am never going to vote for a congressmen/women who has been in office more than 6-12 years in my lifetime again. Republicans included. Can you say the same? Do you even have a senator? Who have you voted for as senator?

I love how the media obsesses over Trump's approval rating EVERY MONTH yet fails to report that Congress' approval rating is HALF Trumps. And the media's approval rating is in the 30's.

You don't think we can pull videos of Democrats saying things in the 1990's that completely contradicts things they say now? Hell, we've done it concerning impeachment, guns, immigration, walls, crime, foreign policy. You name it, I can find a clip of a sitting Democratic Senator completely turning about face. Why do you think this matters to us AT ALL?

You are just so out of touch it's amazing to me. Your opinions and even "jabs" continue to get further and futher away from being even closely relevant.
 
You are just so out of touch it's amazing to me
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Come-on Del. the man has a job to do and he don't be gettin' paid lest he shows some serious progress..imagined or not.

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It's funny to hear dems bleat about a fair trial. With respect to fair trials, in this country we worry about the defendant, not the prosecution. LOL.
 
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Come-on Del. the man has a job to do and he don't be gettin' paid lest he shows some serious progress..imagined or not.

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Why does Hillary always do that exaggerated mouth agape smile? She does it constantly. I remember in '16 a Neurologist writing about a probable underlying neuro condition in concert with that and the seizures after they had to throw the Harridan in the Scooby Medical Van that day.
 
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This is actually a funny meme on some levels and apropos to a degree: The OJ Chase was the moment in time when the media and LAPD (media in particular) seemed to both jump the shark and became sensationalized celebrity caricatures of the former institutions. Their collective obsession culminated in a self-congratulatory news conference in which the spokesperson waxed eloquent about The Juice asking for some "orange juice" much like Pelosi's bizarre celebratory pens and stream of consciousness about Longfellow and Paul Revere.

Media and institutional obsession with getting the pelt on the wall regardless of innocent until proven guilty jurisprudence. Collective and breathless media coverage bordering on the bizarre.

Some sort of celebrity-driven euphoria infecting and animating the protagonists in the production. Schiff giving a SNL skit monologue when all this was first hatched. Pelosi's semi-coherent, "look at me" speechifying. The cultish funeral pyre march of the Articles. CNN and MSNBC camping out at Rockingham as it were with choppers overhead at all times.

The major difference is that Americans aren't "lining the overpasses" over the manufactured Impeachment Production. They barely care.

You're kind of like the Kato Kaelin sidebar to the drama and tragedy unfolding before us in these chambers..
 
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Fair enough SojournerSteel. So we can take that as a ringing endorsement from you of the Trump = OJ analogy. Maybe Trump too will somehow avoid justice, game the system and get off scott free. Duly noted.

And it's wholly unironic that Trump added Dershowitz to his legal team.

He only deals with innocents like OJ, Helmsley, Tyson, Bakker, Epstein, Trump....
 
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Fair enough SojournerSteel. So we can take that as a ringing endorsement from you of the Trump = OJ analogy. Maybe Trump too will somehow avoid justice, game the system and get off scott free. Duly noted.
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You keep ignoring the point that BEFORE they had a reason they were chanting for impeachment, Saying we are going to impeach this mother ****** putting forth impeachment resolutions for 2 plus years. How can you justify any of this? Even if it was legitimate which it isn't it is clearly nothing but pure partisanship. This will bite them in the *** either electorally or by lowering the bar for impeachment or both. YOu keep ignoring the lessons the y should have learned from the Republicans overplaying their hand with Clinton.
 
Tibs said:
Fair enough SojournerSteel. So we can take that as a ringing endorsement from you of the Trump = OJ analogy. Maybe Trump too will somehow avoid justice, game the system and get off scott free. Duly noted.

And it's wholly unironic that Trump added Dershowitz to his legal team.

He only deals with innocents like OJ, Helmsley, Tyson, Bakker, Epstein, Trump....
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Dersh's motivations here are protecting the Constitution and there's also a little back scratching going because Trump recognized Jerusalem as the Capital and issued the EO against antisemitism on campuses.

Dersh has the Constitutional high ground and is willing to go off the Reservation of Democrat Party thought in this case. Good for him. He believes in presumption of innocence.
 
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