Things Mike Tomlin can do to fix the Steelers next season ( besides resign 🤣 )

[NoKap#7]

Tomlin does not seem to like a true nose tackle. A Casey Hampton type player is a true nose tackle.
Would Tomlin be on board with drafting someone like that.
I really do not know how else to ask the question

What true nose tackle are you referring to that Tomlin didn't like, or was available in the draft that he missed??

 

[BLITZ]

What true nose tackle are you referring to that Tomlin didn't like or was available in the draft that he missed??

Sorry gotta go take a poop.

 

[Lambert58]

What do you mean using Noll as a comparison is foolish? Have the Steelers not been to SBs with Tomlin? Not to mention the non losing streak. You just made my point w/o realizing it. At least think before becoming a poser .

If you're this dumb to compare Noll to Tomlin, then you aren't worth the time. My God, idiots everywhere anymore.

 

[NoKap#7]

If you're this dumb to compare Noll to Tomlin, then you aren't worth the time. My God, idiots everywhere anymore.

First of all you dumbass...my intent was to show the Steelers desire to instill stability and loyalty behind whoever they hire...whether its coaches or even players they bring unto the team. Whether I use Noll or Cowher what difference does it make jagoff?? I simply was trying to show that Nolls last few years of tenure here weren't glitter and gold, but yet the Steelers organization stood beside him. What's so difficult to understand about that?

 

[Steeltime]

None of you sopping wet vaginas have much to offer in terms of substance while you flood this place with your tears. And that's really bad for the site

Uhh, at least four contributors posted specific recommendations and two others roster suggestions.

Everything is Tomlin fault according to you and that's what makes it obvious that you have some other hidden reason you're afraid to articulate when it comes to Coach Tomlin

What, that he is a bad coach? That his game management, clock management, and game plans are built to eke out victories over bad teams and get reamed by good teams? That he is the guy in charge of a team that got absolutely mauled FIVE STRAIGHT GAMES and who has not won a playoff game since the Obama administration??

You mean those uncomfortable facts?

Tomlin is one of the best coaches in the league. It isn't his fault the roster is middling and he doesn't have to be perfect

You keep insisting that the roster is so bad - I guess you believe that Tomlin stays in the car during the draft, does not specify what type of skill set he is looking for, and does not pick the roster to implement his scheme.

News alert: the roster is set by Tomlin. He decides what type of player he wants, he decides who makes the final roster, he decides who plays, he decides what positions need help, and he decides who should be benched. Him and him alone.

Also keep your DEI ***** in the politics forum where it belongs. Be a man and say what you really mean but don't try to sneak that ***** in here. You wreck this site, traffic goes down, and revenue suffers

You know another thing that hurts revenues for this forum? Dickbag blowhards who don't contribute and clog up threads with their inane prattling while welfaring off the money dedicated by others, that's what.

 

[NoKap#7]

Sorry gotta go take a poop.

I see you're done taking a poop. You gonna answer the question??

 

[BLITZ]

I see you're done taking a poop. You gonna answer the question??

Tomlin does not seem to value nose tackle. Do you disagree?

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

1. Hire a legitimate DC who runs a better pass rush scheme and who can maximize the man press CBs you have in stock right now... the entire front 7 scheme is a mess that overly relies on individual effort... the pass D is too predictable... then stay the **** out of the defense...

2. Add the best DT you can find ... honestly it is the biggest hole on D...

3. Replace Pat Meyers with a experienced OL coach.. but first decide what your young line does best and get a guy whose style fits that... dont have road graders trying to play finesse styles... dont have guys who best play with simple techniques trying complex, unorthadox stuff...

4. Add a true assistant head coach to the staff. Get more input on staff hires and Pawn off the stuff you dont want to do or just suck at... he could be the disciplinarian and in game strategist

5. And this will be the one everyone hates...
hire Antonio Brown to mentor Pickens..
I dont know why, but sometimes blending old crazy with new crazy works counter how people think...
and no one, not Ward, not Swann, not Stallworth.. no one has ever had the work ethic Brown did... he may simply relate better and get him to focus on what he needs to do to be great...

Does this fall into a negative times a negative becomes a positive?

6. Draft another impact WR, then draft another guy late just to be safe

7. Sit down with every offensive mind you can find to get better concepts for O than just "eat clock and dont turn it over"
Set the direction the O needs to go then stay the **** out of the O

8. hire Danny smith an assistant STC who concentrates on returns... he does well on blocks, and usually good on coverages, but his return game is always subpar..
also whoever is calling for the short kickoffs trying to get great coverages, just tell them to stfu and kick it into the end zone... that burns us enough it isnt worth it...

 

[NoKap#7]

Tomlin does not seem to value nose tackle. Do you disagree?

I totally disagree because I don't even know what you're talking about or where it's even coming from. I asked a question specifically if there was a player of note you were referring to that was on the team and it didn't work out here?? , or if there was someone passed up in the draft?? that would help out a lot. Did you read somewhere that Tomlin stated this or at least implied it?

 

[Steeltime]

I see you're done taking a poop. You gonna answer the question??

You're monitoring Blitz's poop status??

 

[BLITZ]

I totally disagree because I don't even know what you're talking about or where it's even coming from. I asked a question specifically if there was a player of note you were referring to that was on the team and it didn't work put here?? , or if there was someone passed up in the draft?? that would help out a lot.

OK. I will research and report back. You wait.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Tomlin does not seem to value nose tackle. Do you disagree?

I don't think it is just Tomlin. The league has shifted away from the Casey Hampton type. Unless you find a unicorn who is huge and can move, I don't see us drafting a guy who can only ever play 2 downs.

 

[BLITZ]

OK. I will research and report back. You wait.

OK back. Every nose tackle that could have been drafted in last 12 years

 

[BLITZ]

I don't think it is just Tomlin. The league has shifted away from the Casey Hampton type. Unless you find a unicorn who is huge and can move, I don't see us drafting a guy who can only ever play 2 downs.

Every team in the league does not have to stop the run against the ravens and browns twice a year

 

[NoKap#7]

I don't think it is just Tomlin. The league has shifted away from the Casey Hampton type. Unless you find a unicorn who is huge and can move, I don't see us drafting a guy who can only ever play 2 downs.

Yeah, I dont think that's Tomlins stance at all. I just think he was just pulling something out of his backside, but I agree with you that's why we don't see nose tackles like Hampton in the league. He and Warren Sapp are typically rarities.

 

[NoKap#7]

OK back. Every nose tackle that could have been drafted in last 12 years

What nose tackle would that be that reminded you of Warren Sapp or Casey Hampton?? Be specific. Better yet based upon where the Steelers draft every year and having no trade or draft capital...how were they supposed to get such a guy?

 

[NoKap#7]

Every team in the league does not have to stop the run against the ravens and browns twice a year

There's good run teams all around the league.

 

[diver]

I totally disagree because I don't even know what you're talking about or where it's even coming from. I asked a question specifically if there was a player of note you were referring to that was on the team and it didn't work out here?? , or if there was someone passed up in the draft?? that would help out a lot. Did you read somewhere that Tomlin stated this or at least implied it?

Since Casey Hampton retired in 2012, have the Steelers had in their DL rotation a true nose tackle? That is an important distinction. Dan McCullers had the weight anyway, but he never played because he wasn't any good. Javon Hargrave was not a true nose. Neither is Benton. Steve McClendon was more endish, too. They are all better suited to end.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Every team in the league does not have to stop the run against the ravens and browns twice a year

I am not saying I disagree completely I just don’t see it happening. Even with another coach. Sweat was considered a big gamble by many last year. He played well for TN but those types are exceedingly rare.

 

[Superman]

Still not sure what that has to do with Tomlin considering the number of firings of black head coaches and literally no black ownership and only a handful of black GMs, but anyway. People like you send me with that foolishness. If Tomlin was a coach with any other organization he would also be fired. Tomlin is still the Steelers coach, not because he's black or the Rooney Rule, but because he works for the Steeler organization. Chuck Knoll after the 79 Super Bowl had I believe maybe 4 playoff appearances after that year, but went 2-4 in playoff games and coached another 12 years during that time.
It's what the Steelers organization has been a majority of its existence...whether we like it or not. They believe in stability and loyalty over and above everything else. Is it to their detriment?? You could say that, but Stop trying to interject DEI into why Tomlin is still here when one has nothing to do with the other. You just look flat out stupid.

allow me to repeat - Rooney Rule. It's named for the Rooneys. The family who owns the Steelers. They hired Mike to coach their team. This was done after interviewing Rivera (also a "minority" and Whisenhunt). If they so loved the stability that you massage yourself to, then Whisenhunt would have been the hire since he was a Cowher disciple. Tomlin was a defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings when he was hired - and the Vikings were dead last against the pass when he was hired.

dead. last. vs. the. pass.
yet hired.

again - his defense was the absolute ******* worst in the league against the pass. nevermind that the man was a secondary coach prior to being the DC. Shouldnt that experience - as a secondary coach - lead you to believe that his pass defense would NOT be dead ******* last in the league?

dead. *******. last.

yet he was hired.

remind me - how have we fared vs the pass recently?
while you're doing that, tell me what Mike has done recently.

i've not been one to jump on the fire tomlin bandwagon that comes around every year. use the search feature to validate that claim. i've only asked - who would you replace him with? i dont want to be like the Browns or Bungles. Or the Cowboys. or any team that hires and fires coaches every year, two or three. Tomlin had his opportunity and due to the system in place and the bad optics, as well as the players who adore playing for him, he was allowed to continue pushing SS TitanicSteelers to a murky grave.

 

[NoKap#7]

Since Casey Hampton retired in 2012, have the Steelers had in their DL rotation a true nose tackle? That is an important distinction. Dan McCullers had the weight anyway, but he never played because he wasn't any good. Javon Hargrave was not a true nose. Neither is Benton. Steve McClendon was more endish, too. They are all better suited to end.

The team not having a true nose does not mean they would not have liked one. It just means one wasn't available.

 

[madinsomniac]

Does this fall into a negative times a negative becomes a positive?

Exactly
Crazy x Crazy = negative crazy

Or an epic meltdown... works either way

 

[BLITZ]

I see you're done taking a poop. You gonna answer the question??

That's a little weird.

 

[BLITZ]

The team not having a true nose does not mean they would not have liked one. It just means one wasn't available.

If it was a valued position they would have one on the acti e roster.

 

[Steeltime]

I totally disagree because I don't even know what you're talking about or where it's even coming from. I asked a question specifically if there was a player of note you were referring to that was on the team and it didn't work out here?? , or if there was someone passed up in the draft?? that would help out a lot. Did you read somewhere that Tomlin stated this or at least implied it?

Javon Hargrave became a dominant player after leaving. He passed on potential nose tackles including Grady Jarret multiple times (drafted 2015 in the 5th round), Jarren Reed in 2016 (the Artie Burns/Sean Davis draft), Dexter Lawrence in 2019 (taking 220 lb. Devin Bush instead), undrafted Michael Pierce, and Harrison Phillips (2018 draft where Steelers passed on him three times to take Terrell Edmunds, James Washington, and Chukwuma Okorafor).

The 2018 draft is a huge part of the difference between the Steelers and the Ravens right now. As noted, the first three rounds for the Steelers resulted in Edmunds, Washington and Okorafor. Not. Good. The Ravens in the first three rounds drafted Hayden Hurst, Lamar Jackson, Orland Brown, Jr. and Mark Andrews. Yikes.

Tomlin openly admits he does not value the NT position. This is from 2016:

That means the nose tackle is taken off the field in favor of another defensive back.

“So it's a diminishing role, globally speaking,” Tomlin said.

The Steelers' usage of the nose tackle dipped from 67 percent in Hampton's final season of 2012 to 37 percent in 2014.

Hampton routinely played more than 60 percent of the defensive snaps a game.

Last season, Steve McLendon played a little more than 30 percent of his snaps at nose tackle. Against the San Diego Chargers, the Steelers used a nose tackle on only 13 of 75 snaps.

Mediocre Mike Does Not Value NT

Therefore, your entire premise - that Mediocre Mike simply did not have a chance to get a quality NT - is false and disproved by his negative comments about the position and the team's repeated failures to go after a quality NT in the draft, where in keeping with Mediocre Mike's philosophy, they instead select undersized players who turn out to be garbage.